After a Chronograph

[burton]

Had my SeaQ for a few months now and looking to add to the collection which would compliment the SeaQ with the movement being a Chrono and a flyback if possible

Like the SeaQ I am wondering if there is something out there which is underrated but equally as good as some of the other brands offerings.

Having recently looked at the Breitling Top Time and Heritage models but feel there is just something that doesn’t click with me.

Thanks


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[50kopek]

Are you looking to buy new or is vintage a consideration? And do you prefer the style of the top time or are you open to different styles? My first reflex when asking for a flyback chrono would be the Zenith Rainbow Flyback (the original), though it may be very different than what you are looking for. Comes in colourful and all black variants.


(photo courtesy of Fratello


(photo courtesy of Analog Shift)

[TheTigerUK]

Are you looking to buy new or is vintage a consideration? And do you prefer the style of the top time or are you open to different styles? My first reflex when asking for a flyback chrono would be the Zenith Rainbow Flyback (the original), though it may be very different than what you are looking for. Comes in colourful and all black variants.


(photo courtesy of Fratello


(photo courtesy of Analog Shift)

I love how colourful that model is.

[Idontgram]

Had my SeaQ for a few months now and looking to add to the collection which would compliment the SeaQ with the movement being a Chrono and a flyback if possible

Like the SeaQ I am wondering if there is something out there which is underrated but equally as good as some of the other brands offerings.

Having recently looked at the Breitling Top Time and Heritage models but feel there is just something that doesn’t click with me.

Thanks


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Wasn’t the SeaQ meant to be your one and done watch? Maybe I made that up.

I love vintage styled Carreras. They’re just sporty enough not to be too dressy and just dressy enough not to be too sporty.

There’s the CS line from the early 2000s which are 35mm, have a 1861 speedy movement inside and are about 2-3k.

Then there’s the CV line from 10 years later which are 38mm, have an ETA 2894-2, for about 1.5-2k.

Then you have the more recent 38mm ones with the Heuer02 in-house movement, which cost upwards of 4K.

Lastly, there’s the glassbox from the last few years which are an ultramodern take on the vintage design are are available in ADs to try, currently about 5.5k, I think.

There are alternative versions which take less vintage inspiration but I find them far too big.

[Derivative]

Are you looking to buy new or is vintage a consideration? And do you prefer the style of the top time or are you open to different styles? My first reflex when asking for a flyback chrono would be the Zenith Rainbow Flyback (the original), though it may be very different than what you are looking for. Comes in colourful and all black variants.


(photo courtesy of Fratello


(photo courtesy of Analog Shift)

I second the Zeniths - I have the black and white version and it's one of my favourite pieces.
Very good alternative to the ubiquitous Speedmaster, extremely comfortable to wear, and can be had for decent money by today's standards.

[wigdog]

Not sure what style you are looking for or price range, but Breguet very underrated. Flyback chronograph, domed crystal and good value on the pre- loved market.

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[Dave+63]

Wasn’t the SeaQ meant to be your one and done watch? Maybe I made that up.

I love vintage styled Carreras. They’re just sporty enough not to be too dressy and just dressy enough not to be too sporty.

There’s the CS line from the early 2000s which are 35mm, have a 1861 speedy movement inside and are about 2-3k.

Then there’s the CV line from 10 years later which are 38mm, have an ETA 2894-2, for about 1.5-2k.

I thought the CS range were 38mm, not 36mm.

Also, and I’m pretty certain of this, the CV20** are 41mm and CV2A** are 43mm. Trey also had the 7750 chronograph movement. It was the WV range which were three ganders with the 2894 and were 38mm.

I’ve had a CS, CV2010 and a CV2A10 and if buying again, would almost certainly go for the CS. I would consider another CV20** but the 2A is too big for me these days (always was probably).

Sinn also do some nice chronographs.

[Idontgram]

I thought the CS range were 38mm, not 36mm.

Also, and I’m pretty certain of this, the CV20** are 41mm and CV2A** are 43mm. Trey also had the 7750 chronograph movement. It was the WV range which were three ganders with the 2894 and were 38mm.

I’ve had a CS, CV2010 and a CV2A10 and if buying again, would almost certainly go for the CS. I would consider another CV20** but the 2A is too big for me these days (always was probably).

Sinn also do some nice chronographs.

I was making reference to the vintage style ones as the OP mentioned a TopTime. The ones you have listed were all modern interpretations at their respective release times and IMO, were very large. I probably could have been more specific so here goes:

The CV2110, 2111 and 2113 were all 38mm, 2894-2 movement.
The CS3110, 3111 and 3113 were 35mm, 1861 movement.

[Dave+63]

I was making reference to the vintage style ones as the OP mentioned a TopTime. The ones you have listed were all modern interpretations at their respective release times and IMO, were very large. I probably could have been more specific so here goes:

The CV2110, 2111 and 2113 were all 38mm, 2894-2 movement.
The CS3110, 3111 and 3113 were 35mm, 1861 movement.

Sorry, yes you are right, I’d forgotten about the earlier cv21**.

I don’t recall the CS models being quite so small though but I bow to your better knowledge.

The CV21** are the pick of the bunch, along with the latest box glass models as you’ve previously mentioned.

[sweets]

I just noticed that Hanhart do their pioneer 417 ES chronos with Flyback.
Proper brand, proper heritage, very reasonable price.
the flyback models are in panda, and reverse panda dials, 42 and 39mm

This is the reverse panda 39mm, probably my choice if I were to choose one.

[Hocuspocus]

There's a 417 on SC being sold by pinpull. A watch worn by Steve McQueen no less.

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[sweets]

There's a 417 on SC being sold by pinpull. A watch worn by Steve McQueen no less.

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True but it is not the flyback the OP wanted, a feature which is a relatively new development for Hanhart

[burton]

Are you looking to buy new or is vintage a consideration? And do you prefer the style of the top time or are you open to different styles? My first reflex when asking for a flyback chrono would be the Zenith Rainbow Flyback (the original), though it may be very different than what you are looking for. Comes in colourful and all black variants.


(photo courtesy of Fratello


(photo courtesy of Analog Shift)

I am happy with vintage, they do look lovely but quite a big watch, have been looking at the Zeniths and they do look very nice!


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[burton]

I just noticed that Hanhart do their pioneer 417 ES chronos with Flyback.
Proper brand, proper heritage, very reasonable price.
the flyback models are in panda, and reverse panda dials, 42 and 39mm

This is the reverse panda 39mm, probably my choice if I were to choose one.

I have had a 417 ES and it was a lovely watch the dial was ok for the money

Flyback movement was very good though.


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[burton]

I thought the CS range were 38mm, not 36mm.

Also, and I’m pretty certain of this, the CV20** are 41mm and CV2A** are 43mm. Trey also had the 7750 chronograph movement. It was the WV range which were three ganders with the 2894 and were 38mm.

I’ve had a CS, CV2010 and a CV2A10 and if buying again, would almost certainly go for the CS. I would consider another CV20** but the 2A is too big for me these days (always was probably).

Sinn also do some nice chronographs.

Did think of those, are they fly backs?

Yes Sinn do make some nice Chronographs for sure, some very vintage feel too


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[burton]

Not sure what style you are looking for or price range, but Breguet very underrated. Flyback chronograph, domed crystal and good value on the pre- loved market.

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I like these but wondering if a little too much in terms of appearance but that said I have been looking the Blancpain versions also


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[Dave+63]

Did think of those, are they fly backs?

Yes Sinn do make some nice Chronographs for sure, some very vintage feel too


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No, I don’t think they made a fly back unfortunately.

[mrushton]

Chronomaster had a lovely JLC Master Chrono yesterday https://www.chronomaster.co.uk/watch...raph-nww-2181/

Not a massive fan of Chronos but that one is just sublime. Flyback just seems to add ££ to a price and really how many times would you use it? Easier and quicker on a phone

[Tom-P]

Are you looking to buy new or is vintage a consideration? And do you prefer the style of the top time or are you open to different styles? My first reflex when asking for a flyback chrono would be the Zenith Rainbow Flyback (the original), though it may be very different than what you are looking for. Comes in colourful and all black variants.

Seconded, thirded, or wherever we are now. I checked in to reply to this post and what I would have said was in the first reply.

[50kopek]

I am happy with vintage, they do look lovely but quite a big watch, have been looking at the Zeniths and they do look very nice!


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They're 40mm I believe, so smaller than the Top time or the Hanhart. It's the later reissues that are in the 45mm range, I think. I used to have the black version and it wore pretty well on my scrawny wrist.

[burton]

They're 40mm I believe, so smaller than the Top time or the Hanhart. It's the later reissues that are in the 45mm range, I think. I used to have the black version and it wore pretty well on my scrawny wrist.

Ahh maybe it’s the reissues I have seen then which are the larger size, thought it was the other way round


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[Tom-P]

I am happy with vintage, they do look lovely but quite a big watch, have been looking at the Zeniths and they do look very nice!

? - not big, those pictured in #2 are 40mm. Wonder if you're confusing that 'Rainbow' [ref. 01.0480.405] with the later 'Stratos Rainbow' [ref. 03.2061.405/21.M2060] which is a (daft) 46mm.

edit: yep, burton beat me to it.

[Bonny Marco]

I own an Airain Type 20 which has a column wheel flyback chronograph which is just under 40mm width. A few reviews below.

https://wornandwound.com/review/hand...k-chronograph/

https://www.fratellowatches.com/aira...mited-edition/





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[banie01]

I like these but wondering if a little too much in terms of appearance but that said I have been looking the Blancpain versions also


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Speaking of Blancpain Flybacks, here's mine on my 7.25" wrist. Its a 38mm but the lack of a tachymeter means it's all dial, and it is IMO a really nice dial.

[burton]

Not sure what style you are looking for or price range, but Breguet very underrated. Flyback chronograph, domed crystal and good value on the pre- loved market.

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The slate grey Type XXI version is lovely!!




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[burton]

Speaking of Blancpain Flybacks, here's mine on my 7.25" wrist. Its a 38mm but the lack of a tachymeter means it's all dial, and it is IMO a really nice dial.

Lovely, which model is that?


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[burton]

I own an Airain Type 20 which has a column wheel flyback chronograph which is just under 40mm width. A few reviews below.

https://wornandwound.com/review/hand...k-chronograph/

https://www.fratellowatches.com/aira...mited-edition/





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Thanks, will look into this!


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[banie01]

Lovely, which model is that?


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Thank you, it's a 2185f.

[Stanford]

The Heuer Bund is referred to as a flyback, which it is, but without the benefit of continuous timing.