closing tag is in template navbar
timefactors watches



TZ-UK Fundraiser
Results 1 to 43 of 43

Thread: Rolex Oyster Perpetual models.

  1. #1

    Rolex Oyster Perpetual models.

    It's been a while since I have posted here, with work commitments and general life, my interest in watches has waned. However, interest has increased recently on seeing the 2018 Basel world Oyster Perpetuals. I am looking at either the 36mm or 39mm in white dial, as per link:

    http://bezelandbarrel.com/the-rolex-...selworld-2018/

    Does anyone here own one? And given the availability issues with Rolex, are these easily available at ADs?

    Cheers

  2. #2
    Master
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Location
    Felixstowe, UK
    Posts
    1,309
    I’ve not had the chance to try a white one myself but was in my local AD a couple of weeks ago trying the 36 and 39 sizes in other colours. Apparently all sizes and colours of the OP are available to order with a few weeks notice.


    Sent from my iPhone using TZ-UK mobile app

  3. #3
    Master -Ally-'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Eurabia
    Posts
    8,329
    I really wanted to swap my 16570 for one but without the easy link extension I thought better of it.

  4. #4
    Master
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Warwickshire
    Posts
    2,305
    My favourite Rolex but it would have to be the 36mm version for me.

    In fact, its the only Rolex in the current collection that appeals to me.
    Last edited by JeremyO; 11th February 2019 at 09:09.

  5. #5
    Master beechcustom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Right here
    Posts
    5,010
    36mm is best size imo. I love the new white dial. And ghe black. And the blue with 369 dial.

  6. #6
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Location
    Norfolk, UK
    Posts
    473
    I seriously considered a 36mm Oyster Perpetual last year, loved the blue dial with 3 6 9, but the case is a little more chunky and the bezel has a domed curve which I didn't like, so I finished up buying a 114270. No white dial explorer so perhaps an unfair comparison, but I much prefer the explorer case and bezel.

  7. #7
    Yes, the 36mm is the perfect size for me. Wondering whether it would be worth paying 1k more and going for the datejust

    https://www.rolex.com/watches/config...-0058/discover

    Any thoughts?

  8. #8
    Grand Master Der Amf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    11,911
    Quote Originally Posted by GMT2 View Post
    Yes, the 36mm is the perfect size for me. Wondering whether it would be worth paying 1k more and going for the datejust

    https://www.rolex.com/watches/config...-0058/discover

    Any thoughts?
    Believe the DJ has polished lugs and centre links and OP has brushed lugs and centre links, if that makes a difference to you?

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by GMT2 View Post
    It's been a while since I have posted here, with work commitments and general life, my interest in watches has waned. However, interest has increased recently on seeing the 2018 Basel world Oyster Perpetuals. I am looking at either the 36mm or 39mm in white dial, as per link:

    http://bezelandbarrel.com/the-rolex-...selworld-2018/

    Does anyone here own one? And given the availability issues with Rolex, are these easily available at ADs?

    Cheers
    I have a blue 39mm OP. It's a favourite, and I wear it a lot. Easily available, and at a discount if you haggle. None of my Rolexes have any adjustment in the bracelet, and I can't see why you'd ever need it. I really like the new black one, but I can't justify getting another one to myself. It could easily be an "only watch".

    It's pretty low-key for a Rolex.

    Last edited by Holsterman; 11th February 2019 at 01:19.

  10. #10
    Grand Master
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Wakefield, West Yorkshire
    Posts
    22,498
    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Believe the DJ has polished lugs and centre links and OP has brushed lugs and centre links, if that makes a difference to you?
    Correct, and I think the polished lugs spoil the design, especially on the bimetal versions. Too many contrasting surfaces/ finishes IMO, the Oyster 36 is far more faithful to the classic Rolex design concept.

    I like the Datejust, I owned a steel 116200 smooth bezel/ Oyster bracelet version for a while and regret parting with it. I almost bought the same watch in bimetal but didn’t, with the right dial colour I still think the watch is nice, but I can’t help thinking the older pre 2006 design with slimmer brushed lugs was better.

    The 116000 Oyster 36 with blue 369 dial is a favourite of mine, if I buy anything this year that’s what I’ll buy.......second- hand at the right price would be tempting.

  11. #11
    Master
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Warwickshire
    Posts
    2,305
    Quote Originally Posted by GMT2 View Post
    Yes, the 36mm is the perfect size for me. Wondering whether it would be worth paying 1k more and going for the datejust

    https://www.rolex.com/watches/config...-0058/discover

    Any thoughts?
    Not for me, the polished centre links and the cyclops hold no appeal.

  12. #12
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Derby, UK
    Posts
    902
    If I were buying new I would wait until after Basel '19 to see if Rolex start to put some of the new 70h power reserve movements into the smaller Datejusts or the Perpetuals. A 36 Perpetual with a 3235 movement from the 41 Datejust would be awesome.

    Adam

  13. #13
    Master
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Here
    Posts
    1,078
    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    Correct, and I think the polished lugs spoil the design, especially on the bimetal versions. Too many contrasting surfaces/ finishes IMO, the Oyster 36 is far more faithful to the classic Rolex design concept.

    I like the Datejust, I owned a steel 116200 smooth bezel/ Oyster bracelet version for a while and regret parting with it. I almost bought the same watch in bimetal but didn’t, with the right dial colour I still think the watch is nice, but I can’t help thinking the older pre 2006 design with slimmer brushed lugs was better.

    The 116000 Oyster 36 with blue 369 dial is a favourite of mine, if I buy anything this year that’s what I’ll buy.......second- hand at the right price would be tempting.
    The lug change on the Datejusts is less commented on than on the sports models but the result is a similar loss of elegance compared to the older design, with the 34 and 36mm models being the worse affected imo. A few months back I allowed myself to be half tempted by a 34mm OP but, apart from balking at the price, the almost rectangular case shape was a deal breaker.

  14. #14
    Grand Master Der Amf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    11,911
    I don't know when they stopped making it, but in the early 70s there was a 36mm OP, ref 1018. The difference between it and the current 116000 is striking, and I feel even more in the bezel than the lugs




  15. #15
    Grand Master
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Wakefield, West Yorkshire
    Posts
    22,498
    The bezel design changed in 2006, along with the fatter lugs etc. The current style is more rounded and from some angles looks quite different from the earlier one. The biggest improvement on the post-2006 models is the bracelet, which is a definite step up. More importantly, it's possible to get a better fit than with the earlier Oyster, the 6 side can be made a little shorter than previously and that helps folks with smaller wrists. Until recently I owned a 114270 Explorer 1, a nice enough watch but I was never 100% happy with the fit of the bracelet. If the 6 side had been a couple of mm shorter it would've sat better on my square wrist.

  16. #16
    Master mindforge's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    London
    Posts
    3,580
    I suppose with the fatter lugs there is more metal to polish away. Just think in ten to fifteen years, it might look right!

  17. #17
    Master
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Sunny Manchester
    Posts
    1,288
    I have the 39mm OP with rhodium dial, just the right size for me, very understated, doesn't shout 'Rolex' could be the 'one watch' solution if l ever manage to cure myself of this watch obsession!

    Sent from my Moto G (5) using Tapatalk

  18. #18
    Master jimboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    3Counties
    Posts
    1,511
    Red & White Grape, 36mm




    And look at what light does (excuse the dust)



  19. #19
    Journeyman
    Join Date
    Jan 2019
    Location
    San Francisco, USA
    Posts
    52
    Quote Originally Posted by jimboy View Post
    Red & White Grape, 36mm

    That's my favorite new Rolex. I'd buy one if if I weren't certain my wife and friends would hate it.

  20. #20
    Grand Master Der Amf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    11,911
    Quote Originally Posted by jimboy View Post
    Red & White Grape, 36mm
    From the looks of your photos, it seems your wrist could have accommodated the 39mm with ease, had you wanted that. Did you try those, and if so what did make of them? (For what it's worth, I think the dials of the 36mm much more attractive, with the double markers)

  21. #21
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    Edinburgh
    Posts
    272
    I love these models, especially the blue and grape variations. Both are wonderfully understated and perfectly sized. 36 works great for me, but 39 doesnt look too bad either!

  22. #22
    Master
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Location
    London, UK
    Posts
    1,117
    These can occasionally be found at Heathrow airport also

  23. #23
    Does anyone here own the 2018 white dial?

  24. #24
    Master
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    London
    Posts
    1,897
    Quote Originally Posted by GMT2 View Post
    Does anyone here own the 2018 white dial?
    Not white but new black dial...fantastic watch and real comfy on the wrist. No easylink extension but i rarely use it on my DJ41 so not a deal breaker.


  25. #25

    36 and 39 grape dials .... I prefer the 36. Seems to be more balanced. Nicer indices and the 39 seems to have a lot of blank space on the dial that is a bit boring


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  26. #26
    Master
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Corona Borealis
    Posts
    6,965
    I think the 36mm is a nicer proportioned watch personally.

  27. #27
    Yes the 36 has much better proportions the case and bezel on the 39 seems so much more chunky !


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

  28. #28
    I agree, the 36mm does feel better proportioned, now need to find an AD that has one in stock to try on. My local AD doesn’t have any white dials so may need to visit a few ADs in London.

  29. #29
    Thanks for all the advice here. Just to update, I went to my local AD a few days ago to enquirer about the 36mm white OP. They told me that they have only had 2 of this model over the year and would be difficult to source. Is this right? I can understand the demand for the sports models, is this having a knock on effect on the other models in the range?

    Has anyone seen the white 36mm at an AD?

    Thanks

  30. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by GMT2 View Post
    Thanks for all the advice here. Just to update, I went to my local AD a few days ago to enquirer about the 36mm white OP. They told me that they have only had 2 of this model over the year and would be difficult to source. Is this right? I can understand the demand for the sports models, is this having a knock on effect on the other models in the range?

    Has anyone seen the white 36mm at an AD?

    Thanks
    I was told something similar when purchasing a OP39 with black dial. I just rang all the AD in my area until I located one.

  31. #31
    Master
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    Sussex, UK
    Posts
    5,128

    Rolex Oyster Perpetual models.

    Just viewed a ‘Watchbox’ video, giving info on the most viewed models on their sales site (a sort of US Watchfinder).
    The most viewed was the cheapest Rolex....a 34mm women’s OP. As for the 36 v 39mm; I prefer the 39mm. A more usuable size overall, certainly there seems more demand for them.
    My partner wears a 34mm (olive green) and sometimes a 37mm Grand Seiko. Although she’s small, the 37mm still looks a better size, if only because a larger dial is easier to read at a glance.


    Do like that olive dial. Sort of a junior Milgaus.Here’s a 37mm Grand Seiko.
    So, 37mm on a slim woman’s wrist looks good, at least to me. Here’s the same 37mm on my hairy wrist.
    And here’s a 40mm Milgauss.
    For me, the 40mm Milgauss is a real winner among the mid-size Rolex models. A bit more expensive than a 39mm OP, but a more interesting variety of Rolex. And, I suspect, a future classic. ‘
    You can see how it influenced the design of the current OP range. They’re a ‘toned down’ Milgauss.
    Writing this has made me realise that, as someone who doesn’t mind quartz, I prefer the 37mm GS to the 36mm OP. At under half the price. To my eyes, it’s equally well-made and better looking. Treachery!
    Last edited by paskinner; 22nd February 2019 at 09:49.

  32. #32
    Master
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    2,962
    Blog Entries
    1
    I tried on the 39mm a few months ago and was left a bit underwhelmed.

    It's nice but not £4K nice compared to the alternative.

    The staff were more interested in the 6424 I was wearing at the time.

  33. #33
    Master
    Join Date
    Feb 2019
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    1,278
    I am quite taken by these. Normally I don't like any dress/non sport Rolex but the simplicity of the op, particularly in white or black dial, I like. Wish they did the white dial in 36mm with 3,6,9. That would be the one for me. Too close to an explorer though for Rolex to make that I guess.

  34. #34
    Master
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    London
    Posts
    1,897
    Quote Originally Posted by GMT2 View Post
    Thanks for all the advice here. Just to update, I went to my local AD a few days ago to enquirer about the 36mm white OP. They told me that they have only had 2 of this model over the year and would be difficult to source. Is this right? I can understand the demand for the sports models, is this having a knock on effect on the other models in the range?

    Has anyone seen the white 36mm at an AD?

    Thanks
    White 39mm in window of goldsmiths intu Watford this morning.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  35. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by henk View Post
    The 37mm on the ladies wrist looks far too big

    Sent from my SM-G950F using TZ-UK mobile app
    I was thinking the same thing. The oversized watch thing seems to be going out of fashion, thank goodness.

  36. #36
    I was also thinking it was far too big at least in that photo as sometimes the photos don't show a true image.

    A 37mm drivers watch a with a bezel might look better for her as it's not all dial?

    Sent from my EVA-L09 using Tapatalk

  37. #37
    Master
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Location
    Yorkshireman at heart
    Posts
    3,128
    Blog Entries
    2
    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    Just viewed a ‘Watchbox’ video, giving info on the most viewed models on their sales site (a sort of US Watchfinder).
    The most viewed was the cheapest Rolex....a 34mm women’s OP. As for the 36 v 39mm; I prefer the 39mm. A more usuable size overall, certainly there seems more demand for them.
    My partner wears a 34mm (olive green) and sometimes a 37mm Grand Seiko. Although she’s small, the 37mm still looks a better size, if only because a larger dial is easier to read at a glance.


    Do like that olive dial. Sort of a junior Milgaus.Here’s a 37mm Grand Seiko.
    So, 37mm on a slim woman’s wrist looks good, at least to me. Here’s the same 37mm on my hairy wrist.
    And here’s a 40mm Milgauss.
    For me, the 40mm Milgauss is a real winner among the mid-size Rolex models. A bit more expensive than a 39mm OP, but a more interesting variety of Rolex. And, I suspect, a future classic. ‘
    You can see how it influenced the design of the current OP range. They’re a ‘toned down’ Milgauss.
    Writing this has made me realise that, as someone who doesn’t mind quartz, I prefer the 37mm GS to the 36mm OP. At under half the price. To my eyes, it’s equally well-made and better looking. Treachery!
    I think the Grand Seiko looks a far better size on your wrist than the lady's

  38. #38
    Journeyman
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Location
    Ireland
    Posts
    143
    Quote Originally Posted by trident-7 View Post
    I think the Grand Seiko looks a far better size on your wrist than the lady's
    I’ve to agree. The 37mm looks massively oversized in that picture.

  39. #39
    Craftsman
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Oxfordshire
    Posts
    990
    That’s bad news, I’m not a fan of oversized watches, the 34mm grape is a great watch - even for a bloke...

  40. #40
    I like these but the lug width looks huge. Is 20 or 22?

    Thanks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Do Not Sell My Personal Information