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    36mm diver - too small or perfectly formed?

    I’ve a few 36mm watches including a vintage Tatton, a PRS-25 and a PRS-29AM and I love them all.
    I’m thinking about getting a Seiko SKX013K2 diver but am wary of having a smaller diver.
    Am I being a twit? I’ve no idea why I’m even thinking a diver should be any different....

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    I'm a fan of sensible sized watches but I have to say, a 36mm diver with a thick sports bezel would likely be too small for me because the sports bezel really shrinks the dial. 35/36mm is more than big enough for an all dial or narrow bezel design. The Rolex OP, Explorer and DJ models for instance are perfect in 36mm but in a diver it's too small. 38mm to 40mm is better in such a sports watch imo.

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    What size is your wrist?
    Is there anywhere you can try one on without buying?

    Dive watches are typically larger, but if youre more comfortable with a smaller watch but want the diver asthetic, go for it.

    I'll Hazzard a guess that the watch won't be used in many dives anyway!
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    As a Sorts watch, 40mm.

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    Forget wrist size or watch size. What size is your imagination? That helps think of newer, fresher subjects and also opens up possibilities of trying different sizes and working out what works best for you without letting others dictate or judge.

    More often than every other week is too frequent to revisit the size issue:-)

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    The SKX013 is too tall for it's width. Try the 007 which is a couple of mm wider. The 007 wears small due to the lug design and is better balanced, in my opinion anyway.

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    Like you I prefer a 36mm case for my 18 cm wrist. Tried the SKX013 last year and my main issue was its height. It’s too tall in relation to the case and lug dimensions. It didn’t last long before I moved it on. I can recommend the Oris Sixty Five in 40mm size as a smaller ‘diver’ for a general swimmer with bonus style marks. Different budget ofc


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    I have 17.5cm wrists and really like 36mm size, but I also am pretty happy to go big. For a diver in your price range, I picked up an Orient Mako III (ref RA-AA0007A09B) I've been really happy with. It's 42mm and 13mm thick, but wears a lot smaller I think. It is 46.7mm lug to lug.

    http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p...psxlj0atrg.jpg


    http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p...psobpsp0ag.jpg

    Here is a comparison against my Everest 36mm. Alternatively if you can afford a budget of around £1500 then likes of Oris and Rado and many others offer a smaller size. Rado have a really nice collab with the Rake I have been mulling over as it is 37.3mm. I may well take the plunge soon!


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    When I was originally looking at a quartz SMP I bought the mid size at 36mm. After a few months wearingit I realised that it was just too small to work as a diver for me and gave it to my wife.

    It was replaced with the full size SMP at 41mm and I think this suits me much better.

    I much prefer 36mm for my daily wearer (non diver) though.
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    36mm diver - too small or perfectly formed?

    Thanks folks, I hadn’t thought about the height issue...

    I’ve had 007’s and 009’s in the past and they’re 42mm+ if I remember correctly?

    I think an inbetweener like the PRS-82 may be better.

    Cheers again.
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    The height isn't an issue, at least for me. I've had an 013 for 10 years, have a 7 1/4" wrist and never noticed the height. Of course, your wrist may vary...

    To me, the 013 is perfectly formed. I still love it. A much nicer watch than the 007/009. The compact dimensions add to, rather than subtract from, long term contentment.

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    Is a 36mm diver too small? if a 36mm watch in general suites your wrist, I don't think so. Both the Breil and Rodania in the pics below are 36mm.

    Is the SKX013 too small? Unlikely although I have read several opinions of it being top heavy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by andyd30 View Post
    Is a 36mm diver too small? if a 36mm watch in general suites your wrist, I don't think so. Both the Breil and Rodania in the pics below are 36mm.

    Is the SKX013 too small? Unlikely although I have read several opinions of it being top heavy.



    Those two are lovely. Those are the sort of designs I'd like to see reproduced.
    I do like an underglass Cyclops as per the Breil has, don't see that now, but I always thought it preferable to an external one.
    Nothing wrong with a 36mm diver IMO, if you like it buy it.

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    I guess it depends on bezel and wrist but the ones in the pictures look lovely. Inner bezel sounds like a good idea for 'small' diver watches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ETCHY View Post
    Those two are lovely. Those are the sort of designs I'd like to see reproduced.
    I do like an underglass Cyclops as per the Breil has, don't see that now, but I always thought it preferable to an external one.
    Nothing wrong with a 36mm diver IMO, if you like it buy it.
    Agree. Both are quite fetching.
    If it looks and feels good on the wrist, 36mm is fine.

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    All depends on design. Nothing wrong with a 36mm djver


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    SKX013 on my 7" wrists. Actually loved the 36mm size but, as others have said, you d it a little too heavy.

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    i always thought these worked well @ 38mm
    https://www.poshtime.com/447.012/Bre...17035-1992.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoneyloon View Post
    I’m thinking about getting a Seiko SKX013K2 diver but am wary of having a smaller diver.
    If this is your thought pattern, how about this? Seiko SBCM023. Slightly larger than the 013 but smaller than a 007. The problem is getting hold of one....


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    The old Tudor subs came in a nifty 36mm (75090 earlier, 75190 later).. and in at least black/blue/salmon and I think there’s been a white spotted .. my blue:

    Works a treat for thin wrists..
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    The Rado Captain Cook at 37mm is a beautiful little thing. Worth a look.

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    https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ra...ition-hands-on

    A review of said Rado. It’s worth a look, don’t expect the usual black ceramic stuff from them.

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    Perfectly formed 36mm (I have a blue dialed version too)



    And 37mm (I have an orange dialed version too)


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    Quote Originally Posted by alslater View Post
    The old Tudor subs came in a nifty 36mm (75090 earlier, 75190 later).. and in at least black/blue/salmon and I think there’s been a white spotted .. my blue:

    Works a treat for thin wrists..
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    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F223376449464

    These are a lovely size at 38mm. I have one of the older generation w orange bezel and black wave dial. Don't wear as high as the Seiko. I have no connection with seller.

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    wolfie: that nautic looks nice.
    Do you have a straight on dial photo?

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    Small divers can work, though they are a bit out of fashion currently.










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    Quote Originally Posted by trott3r View Post
    wolfie: that nautic looks nice.
    Do you have a straight on dial photo?
    I do :-)



    I have a blue one too


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    Very nice wolfie.

    I assume Lip are french?
    as the watches on ebay are all in france!

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    Quote Originally Posted by trott3r View Post
    Very nice wolfie.

    I assume Lip are french?
    as the watches on ebay are all in france!
    Yep…. They absolutely are…. The blue one was brought from an elderly gent in Arles…. The condition was (and still is) minty mint

    They come in 4 colours

    grey black
    Black Black
    Blue
    Green

    The case shapes vary on the blue, I’ve had both, but prefer the circular one as opposed the more cushion cased one…

    There is also a 38mm reissue (not really my bag)

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    Like this new model, rumoured 36mm Rolex Sub ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    Like this new model, rumoured 36mm Rolex Sub ...

    Rumoured by whom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeremyO View Post
    Rumoured by whom?


    https://monochrome-watches.com/rolex...-watches-2019/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Yep…. They absolutely are…. The blue one was brought from an elderly gent in Arles…. The condition was (and still is) minty mint

    They come in 4 colours

    grey black
    Black Black
    Blue
    Green

    The case shapes vary on the blue, I’ve had both, but prefer the circular one as opposed the more cushion cased one…

    There is also a 38mm reissue (not really my bag)

    Cheers
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    Yes i saw the re-issue but its a rhonda quartz and so will tick.
    Shame they didnt put a seiko mecaquartz in or even a bulova movement that sweeps.

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    A few posts saying that the SKX013 is 36mmm ... the case diameter (excluding crown) is actually 38mm (and height 12mm)

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    Talking from my perspective it is too small. It is not a dress piece, it is a sports/tool watch. But if you like small dressy divers, go for it...someone likes their diesel brand tvs on the wrist, so it is just a matter what you like/dislike.
    I wear my divers at work as dressier options and dont see any problem with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by 459GMB View Post
    A few posts saying that the SKX013 is 36mmm ... the case diameter (excluding crown) is actually 38mm (and height 12mm)
    Beat me to it. Good diameter just wish it wasn't as thick.

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    Its not that big deal, I wore watches (chrono) that were almost 16mm and I didnt find it to be a big deal. So, especially under 13 is totally OK

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    36mm diver - too small or perfectly formed?

    Quote Originally Posted by trott3r View Post
    Yes i saw the re-issue but its a rhonda quartz and so will tick.
    Shame they didnt put a seiko mecaquartz in or even a bulova movement that sweeps.
    They have released an automatic 38mm as well.


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    Thanks again folks.

    After all that, I’ve went and bought a PRS-18A which is 39mm.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by stoneyloon View Post
    Thanks again folks.

    After all that, I’ve went and bought a PRS-18A which is 39mm.

    Cheers,
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    Good choice, I've had a prs18a but small it ain't!

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    Wanted to suggest to take a look at 40mm Dagaz Diamondback (bought 2 watches from Dagaz and was very pleased), great customizing options,...
    but nevermind now, I hope you ll enjoy your watch

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoneyloon View Post
    Thanks again folks.

    After all that, I’ve went and bought a PRS-18A which is 39mm.

    Cheers,
    Adam.


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    Smart choice. Lovely design, well built and you'll recover a lot of money should you wish to sell (maybe all if bought used!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefmcd View Post
    Smart choice. Lovely design, well built and you'll recover a lot of money should you wish to sell (maybe all if bought used!)

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    It must be used as the PRS18 auto is discontinued. I saw one sell a few weeks ago for £250 iirc. Nice watch.

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    Yep, good choice.





    Cheers,
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    36 or 37mm on 6.75 inch wrist

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdmiralNilsson View Post
    They have released an automatic 38mm as well.


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    Ooh excellent news.
    Thanks for the information I will have to look out for it.

    Do you happen to know of a shop that is selling it or is it an ebay look out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trott3r View Post
    Ooh excellent news.
    Thanks for the information I will have to look out for it.

    Do you happen to know of a shop that is selling it or is it an ebay look out?
    They do themselves - have a google


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