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    Six Nations 2019

    Watching Wales at the minute pulled the game back from 16 down . Kicking has been dire from both sides.

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    The French have threw it away in the last minutes

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    Watching France deseperately snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Unbelievable.

    Hopefully they will come back simply because they have been the ones actually playing (and making stupid mistakes).

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    Fair play to the Welsh they have played well second half

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    Not a rugby fan, but this has been quite good to watch!

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    Good win for Wales after being 16-0 down.

    Big one in Dublin tomorrow England v Ireland not for the faint hearted. Come on England.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hilly10 View Post
    Good win for Wales after being 16-0 down.

    Big one at Twickers tomorrow England v Ireland not for the faint hearted. Come on England.
    Except it's in Dublin... but agreed it's a big game.

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    Frustrated with our slow start pleased that we stuck to it. Our bench had a significant impact.

    Can't wait for the home games.

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    Only managed to watch the first half of france vs wales. Very surprised when I saw the final score!

    Tough tough task for England tomorrow having only won once in the last seven times they've played Ireland in Dublin.

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    Fantastic comeback from Wales, well deserved indeed.

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    A game of two halves indeed ..... its important to be able to win ugly!

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    To be honest Wales had it handed to them on a plate

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    Only caught the second half - France were awful! Must have been a very slippery ball for that many fumbles...

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    Wales didn't win - France lost.
    I feel for Rouget (?), I really do. That was one of the most embarrassing gaffes in the history of Rugby ( I think I am responsible for all the others) which he will not be allowed to forget.

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    Definitely a case of France losing it, rather than Wales winning it.

    Reminded me so much of the Scottish football team, they’ve been past masters at grasping defeat from the jaws of victory for years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclealec View Post
    Wales didn't win - France lost.
    I feel for Rouget (?), I really do. That was one of the most embarrassing gaffes in the history of Rugby ( I think I am responsible for all the others) which he will not be allowed to forget.

    ^^^^^^ This. I thought Wales was very poor for much of the game, but in fairness took their opportunities when France gifted them 2 tries. France were the better team for 75 minutes of the match.

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    Interest start in the England/Ireland game, but I have my doubt about how it will be ref'ed.

    Romain ref'ed the last Exeter/Munster match I saw, and was less than impressed. I got the impression he favoured Munster.

    Looks like nothing has changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyg View Post
    Interest start in the England/Ireland game, but I have my doubt about how it will be ref'ed.

    Romain ref'ed the last Exeter/Munster match I saw, and was less than impressed. I got the impression he favoured Munster.

    Looks like nothing has changed.


    Jerome Garces was the referee. Romain Poite was running one of the lines.

    Here's the full list of officials for the tournament: https://rugby365.com/countries/engla...19-six-nations

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    Ref making the right calls thus far. England looking a level above Ireland, should be out of sight by now and clearly a fully firing Billy is the difference between England being 3rd best team in the world (Ignore Wales being ranked higher that's nonsense) and 1st or 2nd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Ref making the right calls thus far. England looking a level above Ireland, should be out of sight by now and clearly a fully firing Billy is the difference between England being 3rd best team in the world (Ignore Wales being ranked higher that's nonsense) and 1st or 2nd.

    Just look at the stats. I am not talking about dirty play, I am talking the technical penalties that Romain awarded. As for the penality against May, when he was being held in, and the numerous instances of "lazy running" by Ireland, it was a joke.

    I actually dont mind poor referees, as long as it's equally bad for both teams - but it wasn't. He had to check 4 of England's try's - disallowing one ( even o'Driscol thought it was a try), but didn't check either of Ireland's. Hardly balanced!

    That said - a great result for England especially having to play 16 men. Eddie will be pleased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyg View Post
    Just look at the stats. I am not talking about dirty play, I am talking the technical penalties that Romain awarded. As for the penality against May, when he was being held in, and the numerous instances of "lazy running" by Ireland, it was a joke.

    I actually dont mind poor referees, as long as it's equally bad for both teams - but it wasn't. He had to check 4 of England's try's - disallowing one ( even o'Driscol thought it was a try), but didn't check either of Ireland's. Hardly balanced!

    That said - a great result for England especially having to play 16 men. Eddie will be pleased.
    Ok but he declined to check for a forward pass for Slade's first try and the ball went a good 2 years forward. He only checked for the offside

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Ok but he declined to check for a forward pass for Slade's first try and the ball went a good 2 years forward. He only checked for the offside

    It was flat that's why.

    But my point is that the touch judge didn't flag, yet he still felt the need to check. Why? No one was arguing, there was do disagreement, yet he still wanted to check. Its a shame that whilst they were checking, they did not check what happened to May after his kick though, otherwise an Ireland player might have gone to the bin, as he seemed keen on that.

    But in the interest of balance , why did he did not check the Ireland second try and what looked like a forward pass - it wasn't, but he didn't check it. Perhaps he was happy with the touch judge on that occasion.

    But its all history now.

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    Ireland totally shocking today. Stockdale had an awful game, Murray not much better, the entire side out of sorts. England by far the better side and well worth the win.

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    England so much in charge, just loved that.

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    Well done England, shaping up to be a classic 6N this one.

    I don’t get all the Welsh negative comments though, a bit unnecessary really. And the rankings don’t lie generally speaking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooks View Post
    Well done England, shaping up to be a classic 6N this one.

    I don’t get all the Welsh negative comments though, a bit unnecessary really. And the rankings don’t lie generally speaking...
    France imploded and blew a 16 point lead. France were the better team on the night, but Wales were luckier. Actually I think Wales really missed Halfpenny and will be a better team on his return.

    But Wales Vs Ireland, England and Scotland (2 at home) will be a much better indicator of where Wales currently sit in the lead up to the WC than the current rankings.

    All we do know is that NZ are defo number 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyg View Post
    France imploded and blew a 16 point lead. France were the better team on the night, but Wales were luckier. Actually I think Wales really missed Halfpenny and will be a better team on his return.

    But Wales Vs Ireland, England and Scotland (2 at home) will be a much better indicator of where Wales currently sit in the lead up to the WC than the current rankings.

    All we do know is that NZ are defo number 1.
    Sure, France crumbled, but they were put under more pressure second half and Wales took their chances. North had to be in those positions to take advantage and score both tries in the first place.

    Better team? The one that won, just like today’s games...

    Wales made plenty of errors too I agree, conditions weren’t the best after all, but ‘old Wales’ would have buckled I think and to win despite that is a huge positive.

    A wake up call for Ireland today, and probably not a bad thing in a WC year, and a much needed boost for England after results of late as well.

    That’s why I think this 6N is shaping up to be a good one, hopefully there will be some cracking games to come whoever you support.

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    Ireland were always going to loose today. Look at Rory Best's facial expressions during the anthems!

    Sport is a confidence trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Integrale View Post
    Ireland were always going to loose today. Look at Rory Best's facial expressions during the anthems!

    Sport is a confidence trip.
    You’re absolutely right!

    I don’t sit and watch much sport on the telly but that was an enjoyable match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Integrale View Post
    Ireland were always going to loose today. Look at Rory Best's facial expressions during the anthems!

    Sport is a confidence trip.

    I watched it again, and you were so right. Not sure whether it was the emotion of the day or whether he knew something we didn't.

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    What a great weekend of rugby, 3 great games, and England are looking strong again at last. I hope they can maintain their form, some tough games to come.

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    England have chosen to start Chris Ashton on the right wing, with Nowell on the bench, Lawes replaces Itoje, with Joe Launchbury on the bench.

    Best news of all from the French camp - "butterfingers" Huget is moved to full-back! Ben Youngs is probably practicing box-kicks even as I write this! Let's see how he copes with a few high bombs!

    Bastaraud returns and he'll find himself up against Tuilagi. Which could prove interesting. Having watched quite a few European games recently, Bastaraud seems to have lost the hunger a bit, whereas Manu is playing as though he has a point to prove.

    France haven't won at Twickenham for a decade and a half. They will be somewhat chastened by the manner of their defeat by Wales in Paris, so they will undoubtedly look to make a point this weekend. It's a cliche as old as the sport itself, but which French team will turn up at Twickenham? Or will they do as they did in Paris and play one half with each team?
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    Aston to start, with Nowell providing a more destructive force in the second half when France are blowing, could work very well. Plus it means that Eddie is shuffling his deck each game because its tactical and not enforced. The team we watch will be different to the team we play against Italy that's for sure.

    Massively important that George and Lawes steps up in the line out, especially with no Itoje to throw to, and perhaps another reason to bring an old head like Cole back into the forwards.

    It should be a cracker and another opportunity for England to repay the favour France did to them last year.

    Match of the weekend however must be Scotland Vs Ireland. Will we see the Scottish thistle actually deliver on its promise and bloom, or will Ireland demonstrate that last week was just a short break in normal service. It will be close and very dependant upon how Connor Murray and Sexton play. One thing for certain is the ref is going to have to listen to a lot a whining from both sides, but Laidlaw must top the ranking for "get in the refs ear" - personally I would like to see players binned for this more often.


    As for Wales/Italy, if the Italians can keep the penality count down and their heads, then they might just prevent Wales getting a bonus point.

    Closer to home, my son has a Colts match against Devizes tonight. Scary stuff.

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    Message to Maccer.

    Your email inbox is full up mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyg View Post
    Aston to start,

    Closer to home, my son has a Colts match against Devizes tonight. Scary stuff.
    I grew up in Devizes and used to be a regular at the sports club, still visit my Mum there- good luck to your son!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt8500 View Post
    I grew up in Devizes and used to be a regular at the sports club, still visit my Mum there- good luck to your son!
    Thats very kind of you. Thanks. Actually we have Rocco's nephew playing for us at 9, so hopefully fingers crossed.

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    Not sure I'd have england beating Wales by 15+. Wales are a cracking team who have played shite so far but still won and they showed great mental strength to come back from the dead against France. I think it will be very close

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Not sure I'd have england beating Wales by 15+. Wales are a cracking team who have played shite so far but still won and they showed great mental strength to come back from the dead against France. I think it will be very close

    I think it will I'll be in the first half, however Englands bench should make a big difference. But it's only guess work otherwise I would be a very rich man. As for the Welsh comeback against France, true, but they were aided and abetted by France who pressed the self destruct button, something I very much doubt England will do.

    I also fancy France to beat Scotland purely on the basis they cannot play any worse than their last two games and that Hogg is out.
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    All in all guys it will make for a great early evening. I say England by 6 points

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    Quote Originally Posted by hilly10 View Post
    All in all guys it will make for a great early evening. I say England by 6 points
    Would take that and run. 6 nations is so competitive these last few seasons, its great and we are starting to see the benefits when the northern hemisphere play the southern boys.

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    On form its England, but over the years we have seen Wales lift their game and the physicality against England even when England get off to a fast start - so I am always nervous of this fixture. Logic often goes out the window in this one.

    I don't see the current Wales side as 'great' but then again loo at how bad England was last year....

    Hopefully a great game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maccer View Post
    On form its England, but over the years we have seen Wales lift their game and the physicality against England even when England get off to a fast start - so I am always nervous of this fixture. Logic often goes out the window in this one.

    I don't see the current Wales side as 'great' but then again loo at how bad England was last year....

    Hopefully a great game.

    England were bad last year (well, sort of lost their way rather than bad), but they still managed to beat Wales (who had a better 6 Nations) by 6 points. Two try's by May - the same guy who just got a hat trick against France

    I still think the ef will have a part to play in this match, especially with 60k screaming Welshman on his back, but will reserve judgement until after the game

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    Heading to Cardiff tomorrow with modest expectations - as a Welshman. But also, and strangely maybe, with hopes rising...

    Come on Wales!

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    Best Team Ever Nonsense

    Take a look here :https://www.rugbypass.com/news/engla...ficant-mistake

    Not sure about the travel arrangements .I would expect England's bus driver to be aware of potential problems at the tunnels which can show up whenever there are evening events a The Stadium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hocuspocus View Post
    Heading to Cardiff tomorrow with modest expectations - as a Welshman. But also, and strangely maybe, with hopes rising...

    Come on Wales!

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    Very envious. Irrespective of the results, you will be there to experience what is one of the greatest events in sport. Enjoy the day, especially as none of it really matters as soon as the World Cup starts.

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    Right the Lasagna is made and ready to warm through, the Red is ready also the beer, bring it on. The son in laws daughters and grandkids, we are all set for a late afternoon early evening and a great Rugby match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyg View Post
    Very envious. Irrespective of the results, you will be there to experience what is one of the greatest events in sport. Enjoy the day, especially as none of it really matters as soon as the World Cup starts.
    Indeed. The best sport, played in one of the best stadia, in one of the best cities. Whoever plays who, beyond the group games, is the unknown but also the attraction of the world cup. Wales V England in rugby union is one of the great, and guaranteed, annual rivalries in sport. I love the fact that I can share my hip-flask with whomever is sitting next to me, English or Welsh. And I'm lucky enough to share the day with my best friend of over 30 years.

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    Well that was fun. Scotland were poor, France were better, but not much. In fact the reason they were improved was because Scotland for the first 60 minutes were shocking.

    If Scotland want to improve they really need to drop Laidlaw. He ambled around the pitch mostly whinging to the ref, made slow ball even slower, kicked poorly and even managed to miss a simple penalty opportunity. Hugely disapointing game management. Ally Price is the future.

    To few good Scottish performances, but I did like Hastings. Alas rugby is a team game.

    France if anything were on the wrong side of the ref, especially the 1st and 4th disallowed tried. Very harsh. Kicking remains a huge problem and demonstrates how lucky England are to have Farrell and Daly in its team.


    Now listening to some Welsh pundits telling us how poor England are and why Wales will win.

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    England throwing this game away two stupid penalties

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    Bugger!!

    But well done Wales. Fantastic performance especially in the second half.

    Not sure what happended to England - I really don't, but keeping giving the ball away did not help.

    Heartbroken

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