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    2019 Superleague and rugby league thread

    Well just like last year, the time is almost upon us!

    Thursday 31st January is the date of renewed hostilities between Saints and Wigan, and I can’t wait!

    With almost inevitable predictability, i again called it right last season....

    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    Following on from 2017’s thread (http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...t=Rugby+league)

    Season Opener on Thursday 1st February is almost upon us!


    Well, Saints and KC went their seperate ways and it was no shock after our lack of direction at times and poor recruitment but with new coach Justin Holbrook arriving in time for Magic Weekend we looked a different team but still one capable of an amazing kamikaze moment or two, and the innate ability to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat https://youtu.be/OHphpqI3eBI

    Or of course, snatch a defeat from the jaws of victory..... https://youtu.be/zyMESo7gYiY

    But I’m confident we’ll be there or there abouts again this season, with young talent like Richardson and Grace, old hands like Wilkin and the ever dependable Roby. With some magic from Daily M winner Barba (with a pre season under his belt) I see us in the semis again at season end.


    COYS!!!!











    Barbra indeed injected that extra bounce we needed. Unfortunately he lost form (and some might say interest) at a key stage of the season but ultimately the first silverware since 2014 for Saints (in the form of the league leaders shield) was scant reward after a season of losing just 4 games in the league. By comparison, Warrington lost a barely believable 11 games.

    Ultimately, we know how the league works and although the final was a grind-fest, it once again proved that you only need to get into the playoff places and then have a couple of good games.

    Catalans proved that grunt and brute force would beat superior skill and guile in a one off game, but we shouldn’t be surprised as in Wanes world it happened a few times!

    Barba has gone back to Australia with the MOS which I predicted back on 2nd Feb 2018


    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    Well I’m smug as I can be!

    46-6 winners against Cas and I’m not exaggerating when I say we smashed ‘em!

    Ben Barba for man of steel, mark my words (injury’s caveat!)

    It’s like a reversal of the Cahllenge cup from last season where we didn’t turn up......


    COYS!!!!

    Ps walmsley has signed a 4yr as well!!!




    (I’d like to thank all the opposition fans for telling us each time we played) and hopefully we will be a bit more balanced, and not trying to put 75% of our plays through one player!

    Bring it on!






    COYS!!!!!!

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    Yes, the new season is almost upon us. I'm reasonably optimistic that Wakefield will go well this season, we've made some sensible signings although I`m still not sure about Danny Brough, at 36 his best days are behind him but on his day he's still a very effective player. Chris Chester knows him well, so we have to trust his judgement. Unfortunately we've lost Pauli Pauli for approx. 8 weeks due to a knee injury, but with the strength in depth we now have that shouldn't be too much of a problem.

    The ground issue still rumbles on, God knows what's happening, but we're still at Belle Vue this year and likely to remain so till it falls down.

    I predict we'll finish 5th again, London are likely to finish bottom, other than that I`ve no idea!

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    Cracking opening game. However, whats Barba been up to now, sacked already and not even played a game down under....

    Stuart

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinnabull View Post
    Cracking opening game. However, whats Barba been up to now, sacked already and not even played a game down under....

    Stuart
    Allegedly

    Battered his missus in a casino whilst drunk.
    The casino is a Cowboys sponsor........

    And he plays for.....the Cowboys!

    You couldn’t make it up.



    https://www.cowboys.com.au/news/2019...lub-statement/




    Anyway, 22-12 flattered Wigan last night: if Ben flowers try was fortunate, Marshall’s was a gift but Saints much more mobile pack was much better than Wigan’s too-big pack, especially with the reduced interchanges.

    Roby turned back the clock with another excellent performance, and it was great to see LMS doing his thing, followed by Mark Percival hitting way above his weight. Powell’s dive was embarrassing though for the Goons.

    All in all, I think we had a great start, and the new “team” on Sky were much better, however Eddie Hemmings needs putting out to grass. He kept coming out with such nonsense, trying to suggest foul play that wasn’t there.....

    “Did Percival play at the ball before it went in touch", "did Tommy M have his foot on the line when he knocked the ball back",


    "did Fages knock on",


    "Is Wigan's disallowed try the first controversial decision of the year"

    “Was there a hint of a shoulder charge”


    I think tonight is the worst I have ever heard him.

    He made Clarke sound like a Saints fan!

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    Yeah thats the talk re Barba, however until its been officially confirmed thats whats happened it could be owt. And thats if it is ever confirmed/revealed, i guess we will never know the absolute truth, just second or third hand rumours and part truths. One thing is for sure though, he is a wasted talent who doesnt seem to learn, like Sandow, Chase, Hardaker to name a few. Seems the more talented they are the easier they self destruct and implode.

    I suppose Eddie has to ask questions during his commentary. TBH at first glance and on TV I thought much the same re foot in touch, was it played at etc. I think he just asks it so they get a replay perhaps.

    These new interchange rules will probably favour a more mobile pack that can do longer minutes like you say though. Hilly and Coops can both do big minutes for us thankfully. The likes of a 10 minute ‘impact’ prop may soon be a thing of the past eh?. I think we’ll see more of the backs running and using footwork on the bigger fellas as they tire, a more entertaining game perhaps. On the flip side though, once all the subs are used I dont want to see players struggling, I get the argument they should be fit, but I can see the downside of this as well in slow plays, tired legs etc. The game is hard enough without asking more of the players, we’ll just have to see how it pans out.

    Looking forward to the Ull derby tonight, then we face the whinos, just hope we get a win to get our season started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinnabull View Post
    Yeah thats the talk re Barba, however until its been officially confirmed thats whats happened it could be owt. And thats if it is ever confirmed/revealed, i guess we will never know the absolute truth, just second or third hand rumours and part truths. One thing is for sure though, he is a wasted talent who doesnt seem to learn, like Sandow, Chase, Hardaker to name a few. Seems the more talented they are the easier they self destruct and implode.

    I suppose Eddie has to ask questions during his commentary. TBH at first glance and on TV I thought much the same re foot in touch, was it played at etc. I think he just asks it so they get a replay perhaps.




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    NRL are reporting it pretty much as fact https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/02/01/...sland-cowboys/

    Silly chap. Not the first time he’s hit her, if the allegations are true. He was charged in 2013 for domestic violence.



    Eddie is trying to be controversial, he does it so many times in a game it’s embarrassing, last night he called “6 to go” for a deflection, he called “Saints head and feed” when it was Wigan and several other gaffes. Hardaker banging his face on Percivals chest head-on could never, ever be seen as a shoulder charge except by Eddie.....

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    Agree with Stuart’s comments, I think the interchange rule will have some effects, some good and some not so good. Even though my team (Trinity) have used the old interchange rule to great effect, bringing Pauli Pauli and Fifita on as impact players for short stints, overall I dislike the ‘10 minute impact player’ thing.

    I enjoyed last night’s game, a great start to the season. I wasn’t too bothered who won, apart from the first 20 mins when Saints were totally on top I thought it was quite evenly matched.

    Maybe Rick’s watched the game through his COYS glasses?..........we’re all guilty of being slightly biased when it’s our own side playing. Rick, I bet you were sweating till the last try made the game safe!

    As for Barba, looks like he’s in trouble again. I find it hard to have sympathy with these ‘flawed genius’ types, I didn’t enjoy seeing Hardaker playing again last night either. Will Barba pop up in Super League again?.......I hope not despite him being an excellent player on his day.

    I enjoyed last night’s Sky presentation, I like Jamie Jones-Buchanan and I like Jon Wilkin......except when they’re playing against the mighty Trin

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    Just watched the hull derby and it was a cracking game, much closer than last nights game imho.

    Great game for the neutral.

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    Yes, just watched it myself, thoroughly enjoyable match played in the right spirit. Whoever lost the game by such a slim margin was bound to be disappointed.

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    Well, glad we got the first game out the way and came out unscathed. King in the SR was a surprise but he held his own and we now know he’s a viable option there as well. Thought Mamo may have figured somewhere after his hat trick last week against Widnes, and also for his pace.

    The binning of King was harsh imo, ok it was a ‘dangerous’ tackle in the strict sense, but no intention or malice there at all.

    Austin is fast becoming a fans favourite and got the sponsors MOM but I agree with Sky, Ratchford was superb last night. Bit early for Man of Steel talk though. Our pack overwhelmed their counterparts as well. Unless Leeds improve considerably could be a long season for them on that performance. Ultimately though, it was 6-6 second half so maybe they aint that bad....

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    Last edited by cinnabull; 3rd February 2019 at 14:41.

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    London Broncos 42 Trinity 24

    Didn't see that coming, thought we might struggle but never expected this.

    I`m fuming, thank god I didn`t go! Just tried regulating one of my own watches whilst listening to the commentary, had to give up and walk away from it........Teddy has temporarily left the cot.

    Just poured myself a large whisky, I`m off for a soak (and a sulk) in the bath. Wifey says I`ve to stay in there till I've calmed down.

    I suppose it's only a f*****g game.....Saint Helens will get a cricket score against us next week on this form!

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    Castleford win their 2/2, against Hull.

    Looked a pretty close game to me, and could have gone either way. The Cod’s Losing streak continues......

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    Hull are on an awful run! Think the lack of signings in the off season will show. We’ve got Bowden and Green injured but missing some size in the forwards. I think it’s a season too far for Manu and Mini too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alex View Post
    Hull are on an awful run! Think the lack of signings in the off season will show. We’ve got Bowden and Green injured but missing some size in the forwards. I think it’s a season too far for Manu and Mini too...
    Hull were unlucky imho, Connor tried to take the game himself in the last 20 minutes and was close a couple of times. Hull will be fine, but I can’t see them above 6th.

    Personally, I’d be worrying about keeping Connor. He’s developing into a top class player and if he can cut out his dissent and wind up tricks, he’ll be on all the top top clubs radars, if he isn’t already.

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    Saints narrowly defeat Trinity to make it 2/2

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    We beat HKR but truth be told it wasnt a good performance. A better team would have done us I think. However if we can play bad and win I suppose it bodes well for when we hit our straps.

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