I don't know if its true but apparently he said the sun was in his eyes. Imagine if it had been a footballer or soap actor, the headline would have been maniac driver nearly kills two people, but instead it's, the speed limit is too high. it doesn't matter if the speed limit was 10 or 100mph he still pulled out on another car. I don't support the argument of an driving age limit, but I do think old people should be checked to see that the are safe to drive.
But this isn’t any old man is it? His wife has a few connections.
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Thought I read that ‘97 year old man pulls starlight out of someone on a main road’ then.
I though, this should be interesting. It was only when I read the paragraph below that I realised I had mis read it and you had miss spelled it.
To quote Carl Sagan, we are all made of star stuff
I am still on the fence as to whether the gentleman a Greek aristocrat or a shape shifting lizard but do quite like the mental image of him pulling starlight out of someone
A great man Sagan, although lyrically I slightly prefer the Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young version:Originally Posted by Velorum
We are stardust, we are goldenWe are billion year old carbon
And we got to get ourselves back to the garden
Interesting new pageant. Is the tiara made up of a gold and diamonds alphabet, or pages from a dictionary?
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Well I think quite a lot has been made of his age already and has certainly triggered some debate on when it is safe to continue to drive.
I find it mad that once over 70 you only have to re-apply for your licence every three years but it's up to the individual to decide if they are ok to drive. I think they should have to do re-take their driving est every 3 years over 70, increasing to yearly over 80.
I'm nowhere near that age yet but lets make it a lot safer and have everyone retested every 3 years? Plenty of <70 year olds who shouldn't be driving from what I observe......
These Range Rovers have lane assist and active collision avoidance. You really need to go some to get it wrong in one of those.
How would that have helped here?
What is a "staright"?
Although no trees were harmed during the creation of this post, a large number of electrons were greatly inconvenienced.
Not much at a junction. Oh, and the fact it was a Freelander; a somewhat lower spec'd vehicle.
I was hoping someone could tell me. I'm too poor to afford a car with such fantastical technology.
Nothing is going to help if you pull out on someone
We live in a small rural village which has the customary corner shop, sometimes when I'm in there getting the essential groceries, lol, an elderly guy pulls up, parks half on the pavement, right on the corner of a junction, gets out and can hardly put one foot in front of the other, how the hell is he going to react and move his foot on to a different pedal in an emergency.
Then, we also have a guy that pulls up to the same shop, be it he doesn't park on the pavement, but he doesn't get out, instead one of the women from the shop actually brings his shopping to the car, basically he's so fat and immobile that he has trouble getting in and out of his car, same question, how is he going to be able to react in an emergency.
You obviously have little knowledge of these features in Range Rovers.
Lane assist alerts the driver when crossing the white lines separating lanes without indicating, as it assumes the driver didn't want to cross the line and is either asleep or not paying attention. It normally 'shakes' the steering wheel to alert the driver.
Active collision avoidance, often assisted by Emergency Brake Assist, detects an obstacle in the path of the vehicle which the vehicle is approaching too fast.
How do you think either of those features would have prevented the driver pulling out in front of an oncoming car?
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
You wont think that when you're 69 and there's no shop in your village or a bus service to get to one.
F.T.F.A.
You are quite right, which is why it needs to be an independent test rather than me deciding I am ok to continue driving out of fear of losing my independence.
If his car had armour plating might explain why he’s still with us.
You wont think that when you're 69, there's no shop in your village or a bus service to get to one, and you're in fear of losing your independence. ;-)
An interesting thought as your reflexes do decline with age.
That said, what about the testosterone filled teenagers tearing about the place?
There's a reason that car insurance is cheaper for 70 year olds than 17 year olds.
Cheers,
Neil.
70 is not that old. I can't understand a desire to implement more testing every three years. Younger drivers are more prone to accident. Maybe pick an age where people are truly on the decline and bring something in, but my old man is well into his 70's and still drives for a living, as a biker and ex motorcycle racer I'd still trust his driving more than 90-95% of anyone on the road. Age is not the defining factor, ability is.
It's just a matter of time...
Statistically ability will decrease with old age and for many a significant decline will start at 70+.
Extra testing won't catch poor young drivers, they probably could pass a test if they had to whereas I suspect many older driver wouldn't.
Does anyone think that the other 40 accidents at the same junction during the past 6 years were caused by people over 90? Also do we know if the other driver was not speeding at the time.
On the topic of a rising sun especially this time of the year, we have exactly the same problem at the exit of our village (on to a unrestricted road), hence extra care is required especially in estimating the speed of oncoming vehicles. Poor road design.
Age certainly may be factor, but then clearly other factors were at play.
That all said it was one of 1000's of car accidents that happen every day which did not end in a fatality thankfully.
Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
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Kingstepper has summed it up pretty well above. 70 is what the existing law is based on and there must be sufficient evidence for that. I feel the law needs to go further and it should be a test every few years as opposed to self declaring.
My grandparents are into their 80's and are still perfectly capable of driving. My other set of grandparents when they were in their 80's were def not fit to drive but they insisted they still were long after their doctor had declared them medically unfit to drive.
Aside from a broken arm, the passengers of the other car including a baby are all OK which is the main thing I suppose. The was a guy on the radio this morning that helped pull the old boy out of his wreckage and when asked if Phil had thanked him he said "No but he wasn't rude to me" :0
By the time most of us get to 97, if in fact any of us do, nobody will be driving.
What wasn’t mentioned was the fact he was packing a revolver. HRH, old school.
He’s a legend..........
Not sure if this is a strange joke, or if you are being serious!
S'true, autonomous cars will be all the rage.
I’m up for the challenge and will confirm nearer the time.
would love to see his drawing of the crash on his insurance clam!!!!
Dread to think how the Monarchy would have coped had the baby died.
Anybody driving at 97 is a risk - period.
Regardless of status, they need a proper assessment or removal of their licence.
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
You can just envisage it sitting around the dinner table, the queen giving him rice for bending the motor :
“Phileep ! What have I told you about driving off the estate like a complete fool – stop running over the proles, they don’t like us for it any more.”
Edward, Harry and William all sniggering and chanting under their breath “Philip bashed a prowul” “Philip bashed a prowul” “Philip bashed a prowul”
Charles saying “mummy don’t you think it’s about time daddy gave up driving and errrrrrr you gave up the throne ?”
Where is spitting image when you need them ?
lol, we need Spitting Image back.
If his car had been filled with hookers and cocaine do you think he would get charged? Is he liable for insurance. i thought the Crown was exempt but that may not apply to him. No doubt the Crown Estate can settle any damage and LR will be delivering a replacement this w/e so everything is good. Is his watch ok?
Journalists: "Brexit will monopolize the front pages for weeks!"
Prince Philip: "Hold my beer!"
Very goodJournalists: "Brexit will monopolize the front pages for weeks!"
Prince Philip: "Hold my beer!"
I've had BBC News 24 on for the last couple of hours, it feels like 25% of the time they've been reporting on the incident and that 90% of that has been about Phil The Greek and the Royal Family with very little being said about the victims. Apparently the local Council has, today, approved a lower speed limit on that road plus the addition of speed cameras - coincidence that a statistical incident trigger point has been reached or a reaction to the fact a Royal was involved?
Just managed to get all the keys off my old man who is 89.
<breathes a huge sigh of relief>
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There is a bit more going on with this story with the woman having some kind of argument with her passenger about the incident. The driver also seems to milking the media about flowers/apologies etc. Everyone wants their 5 mins even on Ebay apparently.
Assuming you didn't witness the accident I think you need to be careful speculating about what happened.
I don’t live too far from that road and know it pretty well. Since moving to Norfolk I’ve noticed a few things about the roads in general which have surprised me since moving up from London. Speed cameras are virtually unheard of (and the ones that exist are very clearly marked). Hardly any police cars, never seen a speed trap - but most people drive within the limits. I find it very pleasant driving actually, no more crawling along at 5 mph! - However, on that particular road visibility round some bends is poor, you get frequent fog patches out of nowhere - and if you have an accident, it might be because a pheasant or muntjack jumped right in front of you, happens all the time at this time of year. Tractors also spread mud around making the road a bit greasy, and you quite often see an upturned car through a hedge as there are no road lights at all in most places. I’ve heard a fair few stories from gamekeepers and locals about Philip, apparently always zipping about in an old Land Rover and quite a funny character. This morning was very low sun and frosty, accidents can happen.
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I think it’s a bit of a testament to modern cars that everyone walked away from it.
At the age of 97 I am sure Prince Phillip values his independence, but he’s privileged enough to be able to others drive him now.
Putin!!
dunk
"Well they would say that ... wouldn't they!"
Was it even a Range? It looked like a Freelander 2.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
It was a Freelander.
We love facts 'ere.
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