I can't comment on your examples but I've had some Jack Wolfskin Mens Vojo Hike Mid Texapore Waterproof Boots for a few months now. I have quite wide feet and I found these lightweight compared to the outgoing Karrimore. They are also waterproof and were comfortable from the off. I usually go a 1/2 size up with my boots to compensate for thick socks. Good VFM IMO.