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    Appreciating SS Rolex

    Frequent lurker here...anyone else feel less inclined to wear a specific piece because it’s appreciated a lot? I’ve never fallen in love with my BLNR because of this, just don’t want £10k on my wrist really and end up constantly wearing my scratched up Sub ND!

    I can’t be the only one afflicted by this? Still looks great though!



    So now I find myself wanting to change up my collection and have started looking at 5digit less than immaculate pieces but they are crazy money now also! What happened to £5k GMT’s!


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    Nah.. I just wear them.
    Models like the BLNR and 116610LV have appreciated enormously, to the extent that most owners who bought sensibly could afford to service them prior to selling them on without losing a penny.
    I would prefer to have worn an appreciated a watch rather than not getting much pleasure from it due to worry.

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    Watches are to be worn. Even with a few scratches I imagine a BLNR would still command a premium over rrp. Depends on why you purchased the watch in the first place. If you bought it to wear it wear it, the increase in value is just an upside. If you speculatively purchased it as an investment piece then that's a slightly different situation

    Bit of a far fetched analogy but my house is constantly increasing in value, doesn't mean I don't live in it for fear of damaging it.

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    Wear it. You will still get more then you paid for it when time to move on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary G View Post
    What happened to £5k GMT’s!
    The same as what happened to £6k BLNRs!

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    Haha yes good point!

    Well the BLNR was my grail piece but it took ages to get hold of one from an AD so I’ve ended up with Sub ND, blue dial DJ41, Tudor GMT and an SD43 before getting it.

    Now I find myself just not that into the BLNR, despite all the hype and rumours of discontinuing (bs I think personally). My problem is, I just can’t bring myself to sell it or any of my watches haha wouldn’t even know the best way to go about it!


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    Just wear it - thats what it's there for!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siysiy View Post
    Just wear it - thats what it's there for!
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    Agreed, I'd just wear it but it's your watch to do with as you see fit.

    If you are not wearing it due to the value and think it might still go up you could stick it in a deposit box and forget about it :)

    I like the house analogy as well btw!

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    Yep, exactly this. I wore my Kermit daily for a decade, to fix the car, dig the garden the works. Last summer I found myself much more aware of the value and the fact that if I did lose it worse get robbed for it I would be unable to replace it. So I got a speedy for everyday wear. I still wear the LV now but only for good occasions

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    If I didn’t wear a watch because of appreciation value then I wouldn’t have a watch to wear!


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    I sense that within a couple of weeks - you will have moved it on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackal View Post
    I sense that within a couple of weeks - you will have moved it on.
    Just 245 posts to go to,

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSlow View Post
    Just 245 posts to go to,
    Best get spamming


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    Maybe for those too scared to wear a more worn in watch would be the way to go.
    I bought a 16700 a couple of months back-not cheap(8K) but unpolished with a few little dings here and there.
    Thought about sending for a refinish but just decided to wear it pretty much everywhere including the gym and don't worry at all about it getting marked.If I had got it taken back to pristine it would probably mean dollying it a little bit again.
    Strangely liberating doing it this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSlow View Post
    Just 245 posts to go to,
    Or simply reading PMs.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackal View Post
    I sense that within a couple of weeks - you will have moved it on.
    Haha I’ve never sold a watch yet! Although a friend is interested.


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    Definitely an intriguing mind-set issue.

    The collectors view can often be to preserve and protect. The mainstream view is to use and enjoy.

    The financial status probably plays a part in that attitude. Pushing the boat out for any watch might make some veer towards the former. The more affluent are likely to fash less when they know they can easily afford the repair/replacement bill.

    The nature of your job is also a factor. As a white collar worker who drives to work I have no qualms about wearing my most expensive pieces (chicken feed value compared to many on here). I can see many blue collar workers or public transport users having to be more judicious.

    There is definitely something sad about both an unworn watch (unless the Marie Antoinette) and an abused watch (unless designed as a cheap beater).

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    Hi everyone, I'm in danger of falling into this mindset myself. I have a 16570 Explorer II but just put down a deposit for a new Explorer - I found myself thinking I'll look after my 18 year old Exp II more carefully once I have the new piece as a daily wearer - madness! There's something about that radial brushed bezel that makes me baby a robust tool watch.

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    The trick is to buy an Omega Flightmaster with 861 manual movement, have it serviced and wear that instead of the BLNR. Unless you have it relumed (or redialed) it won't glow at night and you probably shouldn't go swimming with it but it's a pilot's watch at a fraction of the price of a Rolex GMT. And in my eyes better looking too.
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    I agree - I'm off on holiday - previously I've taken my Sub, 5513 or Explorer - just bought a SKX 007 to take instead, plus an old CVC

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    For a few years I used to wear my Double Red seadweller all day, every day .. Even when working on motorcycles in my workshop, which is my business.

    I thought i had a (very) rough idea of what it was worth, then someone told me it's current value a couple of years ago, a big difference to what i had thought.
    I haven't worn it since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steptoe View Post
    For a few years I used to wear my Double Red seadweller all day, every day .. Even when working on motorcycles in my workshop, which is my business.

    I thought i had a (very) rough idea of what it was worth, then someone told me it's current value a couple of years ago, a big difference to what i had thought.
    I haven't worn it since.
    It’s a shame isn’t it but you would have to be very wealthy not to be concerned about the value!


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    I’d suggest just wearing it too. I have mine on today and it’s taken quite a beating and has scratches and marks all over but it’s a keeper.

    If you did come to sell it, a simple service at Rolex would see it coming back as good as new anyway

    I’m abit more careful with my LV, but even that is worn atleast twice a week. Could sell both for a healthy profit as I got them at RRP but i’m not interested in any profit and want to wear them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary G View Post
    Frequent lurker here...anyone else feel less inclined to wear a specific piece because it’s appreciated a lot? I’ve never fallen in love with my BLNR because of this, just don’t want £10k on my wrist really and end up constantly wearing my scratched up Sub ND!

    I can’t be the only one afflicted by this? Still looks great though!



    So now I find myself wanting to change up my collection and have started looking at 5digit less than immaculate pieces but they are crazy money now also! What happened to £5k GMT’s!


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    Don't you have to sit in the left hand seat to be allowed to wear a Rolex? Nice instrument panel; what's the plane?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LorneG View Post
    Don't you have to sit in the left hand seat to be allowed to wear a Rolex? Nice instrument panel; what's the plane?
    Funny you say that, most captains are too tight (expensive ex wives) to buy nice watches! It’s a TUI Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner


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    Buy, insure, wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Ally- View Post
    Buy, insure, wear.
    This,The BLNR is a watch for wearing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Ally- View Post
    Buy, insure, wear.
    Indeed. But, for a non-vintage piece, your typical insurance will be on the basis of RRP not an artificial, enhanced market value - which I think is absolutely correct, but perhaps not for everyone and their objectives.

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    Must admit to just (this week) having ‘retired’ my DRSD. Just cannot face the risk of losing/damaging it any more. Feel a bit guilty though, having had it wrapped around my wrist for 38 years almost non-stop.


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    Although it's not worth a fortune, i wear my Rolex EXP II whilst working out and about on an oil rig. I don't baby my watches. Almost anything can be repaired. Why let it sit in a box and not enjoy it for what it is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itizme View Post
    Similar question was asked once on a car forum, so you've got a cheapish run around that you will drive / park anywhere, use it all the time no worries. A few years down the line it's been expensively modified and all of a sudden you are cautious about using it and precious about where you park it etc what to do ?

    The best reply was this

    "Well you wouldn't not Shag your missus, to keep her tight for the next bloke "

    Bit crude but very succinct.

    You should wear it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Itizme View Post
    Similar question was asked once on a car forum, so you've got a cheapish run around that you will drive / park anywhere, use it all the time no worries. A few years down the line it's been expensively modified and all of a sudden you are cautious about using it and precious about where you park it etc what to do ?

    The best reply was this

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    Bit crude but very succinct.

    You should wear it.
    Careful. This is a public forum - there are other parts of the forum for such banter.

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    OP: If you are worried about loss or damage (to anything really) buy decent personal possessions insurance. As the BLNR is not vintage it could be repaired / replaced. Vintage models - more difficult.

    (That topic has been covered a few times on here).

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    Some interesting points and opinions on this thread. I'm 'lucky' enough to own a BLNR and I absolutely love it. I am, however, far from wealthy so this was a significant purchase for me and it is by far my most expensive watch to date (it marks my first 10 years in business).

    I only wear it indoors or on those occasions when I can be comfortable that it's not going to attract the wrong attention or potential damage. I work away during most of the week and when I return, the first thing I do is put the BLNR on and it's like falling in love all over again. I wear inexpensive quartz watches during the week (that I love) so the BLNR is a real treat and I really look forward to being re united with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beechcustom View Post
    Some interesting points and opinions on this thread. I'm 'lucky' enough to own a BLNR and I absolutely love it. I am, however, far from wealthy so this was a significant purchase for me and it is by far my most expensive watch to date (it marks my first 10 years in business).

    I only wear it indoors or on those occasions when I can be comfortable that it's not going to attract the wrong attention or potential damage. I work away during most of the week and when I return, the first thing I do is put the BLNR on and it's like falling in love all over again. I wear inexpensive quartz watches during the week (that I love) so the BLNR is a real treat and I really look forward to being re united with it.
    And good for you, wearing a watch that you love when and where you want to based on your choice as an adult. I can understand that people might choose to behave very differently but suggesting that people shouldn’t own watches because you don’t wear it like “me” is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henk View Post
    Just don't get this? 99% of the population wouldn't know Rolex if they fell over one! I wear my BLNR most days, as it there to tell me the time and for me to admire. No one else has ever noticed it or passed comment.

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    You say that but it all depends. My family and my wife's side of the family have never noticed any of my watches but the first day I wore a Rolex to work three people asked about it, if it was real, how much I paid for it. After that it was back to Seiko and Omega at work.

    It all depends on where you are and who's looking. Admittedly the older people in my office would never notice but the ones in the 25-35 age range are the ones who comment.

    Probably doesn't help that I work in sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    You say that but it all depends. My family and my wife's side of the family have never noticed any of my watches but the first day I wore a Rolex to work three people asked about it, if it was real, how much I paid for it. After that it was back to Seiko and Omega at work.

    It all depends on where you are and who's looking. Admittedly the older people in my office would never notice but the ones in the 25-35 age range are the ones who comment.

    Probably doesn't help that I work in sales.
    My daughter, a trainee maths teacher, was asked by a 10 year old in her class whether her Oyster Perpetual (a graduation present) was real!

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    Quote Originally Posted by henk View Post
    Just don't get this? 99% of the population wouldn't know Rolex if they fell over one! I wear my BLNR most days, as it there to tell me the time and for me to admire. No one else has ever noticed it or passed comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary G View Post
    Frequent lurker here...anyone else feel less inclined to wear a specific piece because it’s appreciated a lot? I’ve never fallen in love with my BLNR because of this, just don’t want £10k on my wrist really and end up constantly wearing my scratched up Sub ND!

    I can’t be the only one afflicted by this? Still looks great though!



    So now I find myself wanting to change up my collection and have started looking at 5digit less than immaculate pieces but they are crazy money now also! What happened to £5k GMT’s!


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    As others have said. Either wear it for special occasions or sell it. Personally I wouldn’t keep a watch I get no satisfaction from. I’d rather sell it for one I would wear.

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    No point owning watches if your never gonna wear them . The whole point of saving and then buying your grail watch is too enjoy it , as mentioned you can always have it serviced by Rolex prior to selling


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    Quote Originally Posted by charlies View Post
    as mentioned you can always have it serviced by Rolex prior to selling

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    And if you've put a deep gouge in the case, or damaged the bezel, how is this going to fix it? It amuses me how people think a 'service by Rolex' will transform a battered watch into a new one again.

    I think there's a valid point here, once a watch reaches a certain value it makes no sense to risk getting it damaged and hence the wearability diminishes.

    Much of it depends on activities/lifestyle, but attitude to risk also has a bearing. Many watches are now too expensive to enjoy, personally I would take no pleasure in wearing a watch that's worth over £10K , I really wouldn't. Turn the clock back 15 years and most watches were worth less than £3K, far happier times IMO.

    Thesedays I prefer something worth a few hundred pounds for everyday wear. I like some of the cheaper Rolex models but I liked them a whole lot more when they were worth a lot less.

    I could pull the money out of my back pocket if I wished, that's not the point, it's the conspicuous consumption aspect that troubles me thesedays. Some folks revel in it, I`m the opposite.

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    Just wait for the next level - wearing a £20k (or £40k resale) uninsured Patek on the your wrist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    And if you've put a deep gouge in the case, or damaged the bezel, how is this going to fix it? It amuses me how people think a 'service by Rolex' will transform a battered watch into a new one again.

    I think there's a valid point here, once a watch reaches a certain value it makes no sense to risk getting it damaged and hence the wearability diminishes.

    Much of it depends on activities/lifestyle, but attitude to risk also has a bearing. Many watches are now too expensive to enjoy, personally I would take no pleasure in wearing a watch that's worth over £10K , I really wouldn't. Turn the clock back 15 years and most watches were worth less than £3K, far happier times IMO.

    Thesedays I prefer something worth a few hundred pounds for everyday wear. I like some of the cheaper Rolex models but I liked them a whole lot more when they were worth a lot less.

    I could pull the money out of my back pocket if I wished, that's not the point, it's the conspicuous consumption aspect that troubles me thesedays. Some folks revel in it, I`m the opposite.

    Well said

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    And if you've put a deep gouge in the case, or damaged the bezel, how is this going to fix it? It amuses me how people think a 'service by Rolex' will transform a battered watch into a new one again.

    I think there's a valid point here, once a watch reaches a certain value it makes no sense to risk getting it damaged and hence the wearability diminishes.

    Much of it depends on activities/lifestyle, but attitude to risk also has a bearing. Many watches are now too expensive to enjoy, personally I would take no pleasure in wearing a watch that's worth over £10K , I really wouldn't. Turn the clock back 15 years and most watches were worth less than £3K, far happier times IMO.

    Thesedays I prefer something worth a few hundred pounds for everyday wear. I like some of the cheaper Rolex models but I liked them a whole lot more when they were worth a lot less.

    I could pull the money out of my back pocket if I wished, that's not the point, it's the conspicuous consumption aspect that troubles me thesedays. Some folks revel in it, I`m the opposite.
    That's all very well Paul, but you are not the target market for a current model Rolex then. The OP appears to be (although their post somewhat this slightly), as unlike you he has or had bought three current model Rolex watches in quick succession.

    I may or may not continue to buy current model Rolex - the availability is slowly putting me off to be honest. I've gone back to buying lots of Omega and trying other brands again; when I would have preferred to add a small number of Rolex offerings.

    If you are in the market to buy a new Rolex, then any increase in value shouldn't really be an issue, and certainly shouldn't be putting you of wearing the bloody thing!

    I'll have to stop driving my convertible car in the summer. Because it's worth a few quid more then. ;)

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    See this thread.

    https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...erent-Approach

    I took a different approach - buying to wear and not worrying about resale/investment etc. Bought last June and still wearing without a care. These things are truly as hard as nails - the SubC which I have feels as if it could last a number of lifetimes.

    Its had a hard life but everything works perfectly and timekeeping is more or less spot on if you leave dial up overnight.

    While expensive, my admiration for Rolex continues. Not hype - just a brilliant, reliable product.

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    I am in the armed forces and wear my watches every where. Deployments, exercise, running don ta the ranges they all get worn irrespective of value. People sometimes stop and so me why, my reply is it’s a watch to be worn and it’s insured. Also when I baby my watches I end up damaging them more than when I am card free.

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    I don’t see why there would be a need to be concerned about value increase. The amount you paid for the watch doesn’t change so you don’t ‘lose’ any of your previously spent funds. If anything it helps to justify wearing it as you would still get your money’s worth even out of a well worn example.

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    I think that the people who buy watches and then are too frightened to wear them are probably spending outside their comfort zone.

    Get something cheaper and wear it all the time without fretting.
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