What's this all about then?
I've seen some teasers online, what do we reckon is coming?
The visuals remind me of the Dunlop - Tested for the unexpected ad - so far, so 1993...
What's this all about then?
I've seen some teasers online, what do we reckon is coming?
The visuals remind me of the Dunlop - Tested for the unexpected ad - so far, so 1993...
I hope it's OK linking to another forum, but there's chat about it here, along with some screen-grabs from the site:
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=649748
Cheers,
Simon
The teaser linked in the rolexforum thread look pretty good. I'm looking forward to seeing the release.
Looking forward to seeing this one.
Could it possibly be a sub £10K SS modern sports/dress crossover piece?
Yeah.
It was more a fantasy wish than anything
They seem to be claiming to have done something ground breaking and different. The watch looks relatively normal with a fairly chunky case so is this all about the movement and some unknown function?
https://www.audemarspiguet.com/en/wa...byap/#!/limits
There's no lume on the dial. Thats ground breaking!
https://www.watchprosite.com/audemar...21.10469371/0/
Last edited by Tony-GB; 10th January 2019 at 18:29.
Always wanted an AP, so will watch this with interest. Royal Oak OS too big for me, so really want to see some decent pics of this new release.
The official release is later on today but there appear to be some early images on Instagram (screenshots below) have to say I’m pretty disappointed. Its not immediately apparent what the grund breaking element / innovation is so I look forward to finding out. A date windown at 4:30 is a bold move for them as always splits opinion. Still no indication of price point yet.
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Last edited by Gerald Genta; 12th January 2019 at 13:41.
Lots of info here http://watchesbysjx.com/2019/01/aude...code-1159.html
A hearty 'meh' from me.
Also, prices starting from $26.8k
I will swim against the tide - I actually like them.
Interesting case design and new movements. If I could afford one it would be the astronomica - but I think it’s outside my price range, unless I start raiding my pension funds - which ain’t going to happen. Can anyone give me £66K?
https://www.audemarspiguet.com/en/wa....01/#!/welcome
From web:
All the best
Martyn
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Last edited by MartynJC (UK); 13th January 2019 at 19:09.
An interesting line is "The Code 11.59 replaces the discontinued Jules Audemars collection" - so they're replacing a very dressy line of gold watches with gold watches that are making a nod in the direction of sports watches.
I did used to wonder how often someone would choose this two hander
over, say, this one
This new line at least gets away from that direct competition
Last edited by Der Amf; 12th January 2019 at 14:23.
Expensive and don't think I'm a fan at this stage. The date at 430 on the time models look really off to me.
I think they look really good with what appears to be a very high quality finish as to be expected from AP. The sandwich case and the industrial lugs makes them look extremely sporty and modern whilst still dressy at the same time, not an easy trick to do. It's a positive from me but I wouldn't swap my RO 15300 for one.
Very disappointed in AP. In my personal opinion these watches will never become classics. I'm sure the quality is great (as well as the price) but I can't see myself in 20 years looking at this watch and saying "Yes, this is a timeless piece of art". It even looks like a lot of those Kickstarter watches...
Just my 2 its
Agree completely. They seem to have a made deal about. Process and production improvement... That's all very well but the price is absurd and the watches are unoriginal. Great movements cannot be the reason you buy a watch, it must look good!
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The dials and movements look nice enough, but I’m less convinced by the case and lugs. Proving that they are about more than the RO seems to mean quoting its octagonal design language, on the case and even on the screws on the lugs. I guess they are trying to make these elements into a brand signature instead of the design for one model, but we all know where they come from. Overall I think I’d prefer the more conventional and affordable Vacheron Constantin 56 if I were in the market for this kind of high end chunky dressy sporty hybrid, but they’re not really my cup of tea.
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Last edited by Der Amf; 12th January 2019 at 17:22. Reason: Tenuous rubbish
'Shameonwrist' on IG is having a field day with this! Comparisons with an Armani $150 fashion watch maybe a bit harsh, but it's not a flattering look these watches.
Terrible design.
At this pricepoint the question really boils down to:
WHAT were they thinking?
These dials are so incredibly boring.
What a disappointment
Don't like the new collection, looks like a DW with AP logo
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The Jules Audemars collection got discontinued for this?
I'll need to see these in real life but so far I'm not impressed if this is to be the replacement.
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I quite like the case and lug design, and seems to work in gold in those pictures
The three handler does look a bit dull, but the perpetual calendar is nicer - this doesn’t look like it has a running seconds, but instead a hand showing the week of the year! The open worked at the bottom is pretty cool, and looks similar to one that UN do
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I quite like the case and lug design, and seems to work in gold in those pictures
The three handler does look a bit dull, but the perpetual calendar is nicer - this doesn’t look like it has a running seconds, but instead a hand showing the week of the year! The open worked at the bottom is pretty cool, and looks similar to one that UN do
How underwhelming. I'm also confused by François-Henry Bennahmias' assertive reiteration of AP moving away from the Royal Oak. I seem to remember him saying several times over the years that Audemars Piguet is not the Royal Oak. From this I imagined their new design was AP's 928 and was going to replace their 911 (RO). Much like Porsche and the 911, this design seems to cement the RO's dominance that the company simply cannot move on.
A big fuss has been made about the crystal design but I'll be interested to read comments from owners with varying eyesight.
The Supersonnerie is the best of the bunch in my eyes with the wonderful graduated dial and beautiful simplicity. It's a wasted opportunity the base model doesn't look like this. IMHO of course.
https://www.ablogtowatch.com/audemar...onnerie-watch/
Last edited by Tony-GB; 13th January 2019 at 09:55. Reason: Link
The new chronograph movement looks very interesting. 41mm is too big for this type of watch imo.
The crystal is just another stolen idea.
Moser et Cie should be credited for that.
All in all a horrid thing, utter lack of inspiration @AP.
Very, very disappointing.
23:59, the name says it all. It is one minute before twelve and they have no clue.
Worth watching the video on Hodinkee - https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/co...et-introducing
One thing the chap says the design caters for smaller wrists and they are marketing this as a 'Unisex' watch. So it should wear smaller than 41mm.
I'm slightly revising my opinion on this - it's not that bad. Clearly a lot of work has gone into making an entire new and original line with 3 new movements. It will take some time for that to sink in. I would like to see a bit more adventure in their dial designs in gen 2.
Very disappointing. Royal Oak 15500 update was disappointing also although I do rate the new shade of blue dial
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I did not expect this from AP. It doesn't fit in their selection. It is boring.
So bad, looks like one of those armani quartz watches
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Meet the designer for the 11.59
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I’m starting to think this outpouring of derision is a little overdone. They’re not for me and it’s disappointing not to have a new grail to lust after following the teaser campaign raising expectations. But they’re no worse than a lot of other expensive watches I wouldn’t wear - I usually make it round most of SalonQP without encountering anything much I’d wear in real life, especially now Nomos and GS don’t show there. I’ll wait to see how they look in real life. I guess it’s fair to say they fall short of the very high bar set by the RO, but then so do most ROOs and the rest of the collection.
They are perhaps guilty of trying too hard - a simpler VC56 competitor with less hype around it might have gone down quite well. Instead we get this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GYQNWXi95lY
That voice over - what the actual...!
The design in itself is quite bland and not worth the vitriol as you write. However, this coming from one of the big three and being offered at 39.500 -175.000 USD is not ridiculous but outrageous.
Trying to sell this stuff at those prices is just an insult to your customers. That is worth a bit more critisism than AP has had so far.
I think the criticism is fully justified. After such a long drawn out fanfare from a prestigious company and the CEO being so outspoken about their bread and butter design, I was expecting more. Plus, in the promotional video, the CEO doesn't even wear one of the new range! Also, you don't have to be able to afford something to have an opinion on it.
New daring and complete design which blends classical style with contemporary can be done- look at Ming's watches. All of them look superb. I do believe François should step down and fresh talent like Ming be approached.
Last edited by Tony-GB; 13th January 2019 at 19:36.
I don't know if I read this wrong from AP's website?
The difference in price between the 3 hander and the chronograph is an astonishing £13,700!
I am sorry but that is just crazy pricing.
The movement Caliber 4302 is also being used in the latest revision of the Royal Oak 15500 so even less of a reason to opt for the 3 hander 11.59
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