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    Quote Originally Posted by lughugger View Post
    It would make a nice point of separation from the black dialled models.


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    I agree, but you're never going to please everyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by lughugger View Post
    It would make a nice point of separation from the black dialled models.


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    In addition to the white dial obviously ;)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Blued pencil or syringe hands over a creamy waffle texture.....
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    I like Eddie's render.
    I'd stick with the C3-X1 zqr 23...whatever lume. Faux aged lume doesn't really do it for me. Tried it. Found it...meh.
    Mercedes hands please. My God, man, it's an Explorer. (Yes, I know they didn't ALL have Mercedes hands...)
    Not sure about the blued hands. I think they might "pop" too much. They seem perfect when thin and not lume filled, as in a deck watch or that beautiful Air Ministry 29. In Mercedes style, I'm a little worried they will overpower the dial. I get the visibility thing-my eyes are lousy, actually. But I've got a SARB35 with slimmer, polished hands, and have no problem reading it in any light yet.
    Please, do NOT use a closed minute track. They look awful. Always. Just my opinion.
    And again, please, no textured dial. Ugh.
    20-16mm bracelet with old clasp sounds good. The new ratcheting clasp is nice, but I'd want it on a diver of at least SKX007 size, not on a slim dressier watch like this. And some are finding the 20-18 mm bracelet too heavy, so this 20-16 was a really good idea.
    Looks like I'm in, even if hands are blued (and my impression is, they will be). I was going to get the black 36, but that clasp is too much for me, and I really want to keep this on the bracelet, so I will be getting the white version.

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    How about a merger of Eddies lumed plots and central second hand with this?



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    Quote Originally Posted by lughugger View Post
    How about a merger of Eddies lumed plots and central second hand with this?



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    Ah, now that is a winner. Nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lughugger View Post
    How about a merger of Eddies lumed plots and central second hand with this?



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    I had a precista pocket watch with hands shaped a bit like that. Don't know what they are called - 'pencil hands with a pointy bit on the end' maybe.

    I think they would look fantastic on the white face everest, blued, with lashings of superlume.

    Cream everest script, and all print such as 'great Britain' and the markers and outlines of plots and numerals all in dark brown or burnt sienna

    Only exception to be the Smiths manboobs logo which is to be in a slightly lighter colour of brown, with just a touch of burgundy perhaps

    Just my rather specific 2.0262p
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    Really looking forward to seeing this come together!

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    A small second dial would be rather cool on this model....

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyp View Post
    A small second dial would be rather cool on this model....
    If it morphed into a recreation of that watch from Lughuggers post i would not complain.....i would buy it!

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    I ask again:

    Eddie, please I'm interested in the Everest 36mm with black dial, but I really would prefer for it the new planned rivet bracelet 20mm tapering to 16mm,with simple "old style" clasp. Will this bracelet be available for sale separately (please say yes ... !) ? Any drawing or real picture available ?

    Thanks in advance,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Engi View Post
    I ask again:
    Still Christmas innit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Still Christmas innit?

    Yes maybe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Engi View Post
    Yes maybe
    No maybe about it. Why the rush? The store is not open for another 3 weeks! You can get through life with bad manners but itís a lot easier with good manners.


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    On the handset, can I put in my vote for an extra 1mm on the hour hand and the lollipop pip on the second hand moved in creating a gap to the indices? (I suspect Eddie has other ideas on this though, but might as well add my preferences to the thread.)

    As to the colour of the dial, I really like ivory / off-white but for some reason actively dislike pure 'arctic' white. So I hope the dial colour stays as planned.

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    Hi Eddie, merry xmas!
    So, would the blued hands be painted blue or heated blue?
    I think they are great for legibility against the cream dial, nice one.
    And I love superbright lume, it's an explorer!
    Please just make the indices well readable also in the daylight.

    This will be a great companion to the bb36, let me find some money now.

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    I did not know that Rolex made watches that they called Everest but they did:



    And a vintage Smiths Everest:

    Last edited by DannyPN; 26th December 2018 at 11:51. Reason: better pic smiths everest

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    Quote Originally Posted by lughugger View Post
    No maybe about it. Why the rush? The store is not open for another 3 weeks! You can get through life with bad manners but it’s a lot easier with good manners.


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    Dear lughugger,
    no rush at all, and I can assure you I'm always on the good manner side.
    I've just asked a question as many are doing ... no problem here.

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    Rolex had every right to have a model called Everest. After Mallory's death (wearing a Borgel) until Everest was conquered (again) Rolex were there most of the way. Eric Shipton wore one of the very first Rolex on every other expedition apart for the '53 one. Even the '53 expedition equipped the primary team with Rolex 6098 (with a light dial) but failed to give them to the secondary team. Pretty well everyone who went to Everest but didn't get to the top wore some sort of Rolex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4tt View Post
    Pretty well everyone who went to Everest but didn't get to the top wore some sort of Rolex.
    So inspiring! They should use that as a strapline in their next campaign
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    So inspiring! They should use that as a strapline in their next campaign

    I can see it now: "If you were going to fail to swim The Channel, climb Everest or go to The Moon tomorrow, you'd wear..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4tt View Post
    I can see it now: "If you were going to fail to swim The Channel, climb Everest or go to The Moon tomorrow, you'd wear..."
    'Rolex - when only second best is good enough '
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4tt View Post
    Pretty well everyone who went to Everest but didn't get to the top wore some sort of Rolex.
    An aspirational brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    'Rolex - when only second best is good enough '
    Rolex - for the nearly people.

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    The Jack Swigert Moon Lander SE.

    Joking apart, wouldn't it be quite cute to move away from the whole 3 6 9 and go for the dial configuration that was actually worn by some on Everest in 1953:



    If there's going to be a white dialled watch called Everest, surely this is the one? It's also a white dial 36mm Rolex and personally I think that the large 'obelisk' indices with the double indices at the top is really quite attractive.
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    A textured dial and non-Mercedes style hands would be most welcome on my part.
    Blued hands are definitely a big plus if they are as well made as on the Air Ministry.

    Lume color can be sometimes be a bit problematic on white/light colored dials.
    If the lume is too greenish, I find that it often makes the whole watch look cheap.
    Just my 2 cents...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dschaen81 View Post
    Lume color can be sometimes be a bit problematic on white/light colored dials....
    Yup. Has to be done really carefully imo
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    The white dial 36mm Everest will be fitted with the Miyota 9039, as will all future versions of the Everest. The 9039 is basically the 9015 without a date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    The white dial 36mm Everest will be fitted with the Miyota 9039, as will all future versions of the Everest. The 9039 is basically the 9015 without a date.

    Eddie
    This is good news, no ghost date position. I'm liking this one more and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    The white dial 36mm Everest will be fitted with the Miyota 9039, as will all future versions of the Everest. The 9039 is basically the 9015 without a date.

    Eddie

    Understand the hands sit a bit lower with the 9039, vs the 9015, so will that result in a slimmer watch Eddie or will you be using the same cases ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    The white dial 36mm Everest will be fitted with the Miyota 9039, as will all future versions of the Everest. The 9039 is basically the 9015 without a date.

    Eddie
    That's excellent news. Thanks for the update, Eddie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 459GMB View Post
    Understand the hands sit a bit lower with the 9039, vs the 9015, so will that result in a slimmer watch Eddie or will you be using the same cases ?
    The Miyota website shows the two movements have identical dimensions but the hour hand sits 300 microns lower, I hardly think you'd notice ;-)

    https://miyotamovement.com/product/mechanical1.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    The Miyota website shows the two movements have identical dimensions but the hour hand sits 300 microns lower, I hardly think you'd notice ;-)

    https://miyotamovement.com/product/mechanical1.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyPN View Post
    For inspiration, another white dialed Explorer. The 6298:

    Just a remake of this one would do me, it's gorgeous!!!

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    I think that a white dial taking inspirational cues from the original Smiths would be the one.

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    Is there any indication of when these might be available?

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    Aged lume and blued hands?



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    hmmm probably not for me tbh but others might like it. Gold hands might work better than blued if it goes down this route.

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    I think it would benefit from a more defined line around each marker and digit. At the moment they seem to blend in with the dial colour too much.
    The Logo, is it definate? As it just looks like the letters have been eaten in to from underneath, sort of looks odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coot View Post
    Aged lume and blued hands?




    I think Eddie suggested earlier that he wanted to go with a particular SuperLuminova and that color was not available in "vintage" (old radium). So, it seems like the white, non-aged lume is probably fixed at this point. But, I do really like this design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coot View Post
    Aged lume and blued hands?


    I like that, but I hope the dial doesn't have the boobs...

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    Those boobs are spectacular

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    Nice. Needs a little work as others have said re plot outline being slightly stronger and in non aged lume. No need for the Ďautomaticí either.


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    Personally I would like to see something else than mercedes hands and the classic 3-6-9 dial configuration for the white dialed PRS-25. Rolex made other Explorer models than the 1016 and there are plenty of nice dial configs in Smiths own heritage that could be used imo.
    So for inspiration, hereís another white dialed Explorer:



    And a vintage Smiths model that was apparently worn by Edmund Hillary on his Antarctic expedition:



    Some more info and pics about the Smiths can be found here: https://distinctivepurveyor.com/smit...-rare-package/

    You could even name the white dialed PRS-25 the Smiths Arctic instead of Everest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyPN View Post
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    You could even name the white dialed PRS-25 the Smiths Arctic instead of Everest.
    Smiths Polar
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coot View Post
    Aged lume and blued hands?

    Not sure about the blue outlined hands, but otherwise superb !

    I really like the addition of the red "Automatic" under Everest ; the extra line of text provides a nice visual balance to the logo. Maybe reverse the colours and see what that looks like (Everest in red) ?


    Could be model number PRS-8848 (height of Everest in metres) or the PRS-1953 (date of first ascent) :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 459GMB View Post
    Not sure about the blue outlined hands, but otherwise superb !

    I really like the addition of the red "Automatic" under Everest ; the extra line of text provides a nice visual balance to the logo. Maybe reverse the colours and see what that looks like (Everest in red) ?


    Could be model number PRS-8848 (height of Everest in metres) or the PRS-1953 (date of first ascent) :-)
    We already have a prs53.
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyPN View Post
    And a vintage Smiths model that was apparently worn by Edmund Hillary on his Antarctic expedition:



    Some more info and pics about the Smiths can be found here: https://distinctivepurveyor.com/smit...-rare-package/

    You could even name the white dialed PRS-25 the Smiths Arctic instead of Everest.

    That would be a cool way to differentiate it from the black one ... the Smiths Everest and the Smiths Antarctic/Arctic .... I like it ... as a nod to the original, you could even use 24 Jewels (as per the Miyota 9039) instead of the red "Automatic" proposed by Coot ...

    ANTARCTIC
    24 JEWELS

    ARCTIC
    24 JEWELS
    Last edited by 459GMB; 30th December 2018 at 08:22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Smiths Polar
    That's the nickname for the white Rolex Explorer II isn't it ?

    I think a nod to the Smiths history is better ... Antarctic (or Arctic)
    Last edited by 459GMB; 30th December 2018 at 08:29.

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