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    Is the 20->1> riveted oyster bracelet sample arrived ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Engi View Post
    Is the 20->1> riveted oyster bracelet sample arrived ?
    Thanks.
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 459GMB View Post
    Looks good, albeit with a minor criticism that I think the top half logo is too small in comparison to the "Everest" in the lower half, or the Everest is too big if you prefer. Either way, it lacks the balance of the black dial version ...
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post


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    So have you definitely done away with the 'Everest Expedition' text that was on the 'minor tweeks' image you posted?

    Have you decided on the style of hands you are going to use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK View Post
    So have you definitely done away with the 'Everest Expedition' text that was on the 'minor tweeks' image you posted?

    Have you decided on the style of hands you are going to use?
    I'll be doing them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    I'll be doing them all.

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    Bloody good news!

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    That dial looks great.

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    Will the hand proportions be changed Eddie?


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    Apologies if I missed this somewhere in the thread but are drilled lugs going to be on these?

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    Will the hand proportions be changed Eddie?


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    They should be in the new release of the PRS-25, at least for the hour hand. I do not know if the minute hand will be shortened a bit, maybe Eddie can better explain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Engi View Post
    They should be in the new release of the PRS-25, at least for the hour hand. I do not know if the minute hand will be shortened a bit, maybe Eddie can better explain.
    Yep, I think both need adjusting, brilliant watch otherwise.


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    Have a bit of fun with this. Don't know whether to have

    Different colour outside the circle or inside
    or
    Gloss inside/matte outside or vice-versa



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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Have a bit of fun with this. Don't know whether to have

    Different colour outside the circle or inside
    or
    Gloss inside/matte outside or vice-versa
    Here's some inspiration for you:

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Have a bit of fun with this. Don't know whether to have

    Different colour outside the circle or inside
    or
    Gloss inside/matte outside or vice-versa



    Eddie
    I know this is not an answer to your question, but I must say I really don't like the way the circle touches the triangle and 6 markers.

    It bothers me so much that I struggle to address the issues of colour and finish!

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    I do like the smaller font for 'Everest' though ..

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    Smaller font looks good, but not a fan of the circle. I think it works really well on the type C render, but don't really like this one. I also like that without it, the B and C feel more distinctly different watches (and would make me feel more compelled to buy both)

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    A redesign along these lines would also mean that the idea of this model as an homage to the rare blonde Explorer would have gone.

    That doesn't bother me as such personally, but some potential buyers might lose interest for that reason alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Have a bit of fun with this. Don't know whether to have

    Different colour outside the circle or inside
    or
    Gloss inside/matte outside or vice-versa



    Eddie
    As I understand it, the circle is just a quick addition meant to indicate the areas that are potentially going to be differentiated. It is not actually going to be in that placement.

    I think a matte outside / gloss inside, or light color outside / darker color inside would work better.

    I like that the "Everest" text has been reduced in size to be better in proportion to the Smiths logo.

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    I would retain the original Everest font size and make the Smiths logo bigger - exactly like you had it on your very first post in this thread (22nd December 2018 15:35)

    And I would also stick to the original idea for the dial of one colour and one finish.
    Last edited by 459GMB; 28th April 2019 at 09:03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post


    Eddie

    This is all a white dialled Everest needs to be, no more, no less.
    F.T.F.A.

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    I agree with Bob

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    Would you not welcome rebalancing of the size of 'Everest' with 'Smiths', either by reducing the size of the former as per this latest illustration or - as 459GMB suggests - reverting to the original, larger size of the Smiths logo?

    I do feel that the large EVEREST above 6 combined with the small Smiths logo below 12 leaves the dial unbalanced, and quite a few people have commented along those lines at various points in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TF23 View Post
    Would you not welcome rebalancing of the size of 'Everest' with 'Smiths', either by reducing the size of the former as per this latest illustration or - as 459GMB suggests - reverting to the original, larger size of the Smiths logo?

    I do feel that the large EVEREST above 6 combined with the small Smiths logo below 12 leaves the dial unbalanced, and quite a few people have commented along those lines at various points in this thread.

    It looks fine as it is to my eye. Larger logo at the bottom, smaller at the top, is a more a natural balance. IMHO.
    F.T.F.A.

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    That's not the traditional balance of course - and indeed it's not unusual to have no logo or legend in the bottom half of the dial at all - but if that's what you prefer then there it is, no-one can gainsay that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by horror_logical View Post
    WOW, what happened to the step in the middle?
    Hillary's actual watch doesn't have a stepped dial and looks better for it in my opinion.

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    The stepped dial was only ever proposed for the Everest Expedition variant, not for the Everest itself (which is inspired by the Rolex Explorer design, admittedly having zero connection with the 53 ascent!).

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    I am still quiet happy with the original... but a few ideas on Eddie's theme.






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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverCD View Post
    I am still quiet happy with the original... but a few ideas on Eddie's theme.





    Thanks, that's the kind of feedback I was hoping to get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Have a bit of fun with this. Don't know whether to have

    Different colour outside the circle or inside
    or
    Gloss inside/matte outside or vice-versa



    Eddie
    I like the simplicity of the sample dial, but if I were to go for the two stage dial, I would make the outside darker to empasise the contrast of the numbers against the background. Thinking something like the JLC Master Control Date in that regard, although with the added benefit of luminous numbers.

    Whatever you do will be great.

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    A couple more ideas...







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    The alternatives being put forward are merely highlighting why you should stick to your original plan Eddie - nice photoshop skills from OliverCD though ! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 459GMB View Post
    The alternatives being put forward are merely highlighting why you should stick to your original plan Eddie - nice photoshop skills from OliverCD though ! :-)
    I agree, just for clarification, are all models a through c going to produced? The black and white Everest and the expedition? I’d like to see all of them.

    I’m wearing my Everest 36 at the moment and would love to see the expedition model (which is model c I think).




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    Quote Originally Posted by 459GMB View Post
    The alternatives being put forward are merely highlighting why you should stick to your original plan Eddie
    Hear hear.

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    I just read this article it has some good photos and info, the photos highlights the dial nicely.

    https://www.watchgecko.com/vintage-s...-deluxe-watch/




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    Good work as ever Oliver, but I wouldn't buy any of those versions - the C has it, the C has it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by duder13 View Post
    Great combination - wonder where the strap was bought from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    Hear hear.

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    Nice, very keen to see this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    Hear hear.

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    Agreed.

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    I'm in.
    Can't wait to see the hands

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post


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    What about the other one - version C - no news on that one?
    Last edited by Mads Gorm; 4th May 2019 at 13:04.

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    It's time to give the white dial PRS-25 its own thread

    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    Hear hear.

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    The ‘10 atmosphere’ line works really well at filling an empty space discreetly. My favourite option so far, with the bigger logo doing the same in the upper part of the dial.
    'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by horror_logical View Post



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    Yes, that looks superb.

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    At only 36mm the dial should be left as uncluttered as possible so as not to shrink it, particularly with a mix of fonts/sizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by size11s View Post
    At only 36mm the dial should be left as uncluttered as possible so as not to shrink it, particularly with a mix of fonts/sizes.

    Hear hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by size11s View Post
    At only 36mm the dial should be left as uncluttered as possible so as not to shrink it, particularly with a mix of fonts/sizes.
    I think you might be right, this was my inspiration. I think it looks good on the sarb035 but i’m unsure about it here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by horror_logical View Post
    I think you might be right, this was my inspiration. I think it looks good on the sarb035 but i’m unsure about it here.
    If anything I would lower a touch the 2 lines.
    The size of the dial is marginally irrelevant as it’s a matter of proportions.
    I wouldn’t call this one cluttered:



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    I would be interested to see what a smaller Logo with everest at the top would look like, with Automatic and 10 atm in the lower part. Maybe too close to the 1018?
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    Yep, proportions and balance, and homogeneity of font/size. None of which the '10 atmospheres' has.....in my opinion. That is what makes it look cluttered, to my eye.

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