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    £5k to spend on a used watch

    What would you buy and why?

    just a low key "chatty" thread

    Not much imagination from me - I suppose I would buy the best Rolex 14060 that I could find and hopefully get some change - plenty around

    (I have a 16610 from 2008 - but in a way, because I wear it in rotation, unless I keep it wound, I regularly have to change the date - so a Non_Date would suit me better as my main watch)

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    NOS/mint 114270. My perfect do it all watch.


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    214270 plus cash in hand.

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    Breitling aerospace - good tool watch, plus one you wouldn't have to worry about residuals.

    Failing that a Tudor BB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lughugger View Post
    NOS/mint 114270. My perfect do it all watch.


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    If the thread gets a few responses, it will be interesting to see how many involve a Rolex

    I've been looking at similar watches to the 114270 - I mean similar in size and maybe design - Tudor and Longines figure - of course they are much cheaper than the Rolex and what surprises me is that say the Tudor Heritage BB 36mm sell at a discount if you shop around - Swatch Group watches, i.e the Longines are always being advertised at discounts

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    I like the Zenith El Primero Tri Color - the 42mm one - lovely looking watch and within budget used.

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    I think i'd go for the zenith defy classic, seen them go for well below £5k in sales already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyg View Post
    Breitling aerospace - good tool watch, plus one you wouldn't have to worry about residuals.

    Failing that a Tudor BB.
    This.

    I love a Sub but they are just too common, a 214270 Explorer is just perfect; maybe even a Milgaus. Subtle, understated and classy.

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    If sticking to a used watch I would go for the best 114270 you can find. No date, excellent do it all watch that doesn’t attract attention, comfortable on the wrist and with a similar size dial to the 16610 that you are used to.

    Spending less and going for new I would look at a BB58.

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    Sinn EZM 1. Impeccable heritage and a triumph of legible design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ Mclure View Post
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    agreed

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    Another vote for an Explorer - either 36 or 39 depending on taste

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerald Genta View Post
    I think i'd go for the zenith defy classic, seen them go for well below £5k in sales already.
    Love this, especially on rubber strap. Tried one on and it felt great, excellent build quality

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillN View Post
    If the thread gets a few responses, it will be interesting to see how many involve a Rolex

    I've been looking at similar watches to the 114270 - I mean similar in size and maybe design - Tudor and Longines figure - of course they are much cheaper than the Rolex and what surprises me is that say the Tudor Heritage BB 36mm sell at a discount if you shop around - Swatch Group watches, i.e the Longines are always being advertised at discounts
    I had a BB36. The round indices on the small face made the watch feel too feminine - like the indices were jewels perhaps? No such problem with the 116000. Can’t vouch for the Longines I’m afraid.


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    I’ve always wanted a Zenith El Primero Stratos Flyback Striking 10th Felix Baumgartner. Available in good condition for a smidgen under £5k...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mycroft View Post
    I’ve always wanted a Zenith El Primero Stratos Flyback Striking 10th Felix Baumgartner. Available in good condition for a smidgen under £5k...

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    sounds like a watch for the Urban Gentry - only joking!!

    (just looked it up - BIG! on the wrist)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Curta View Post
    Sinn EZM 1. Impeccable heritage and a triumph of legible design.
    Hear hear!

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    IWC MK 11 6b/346 fabulous manual wind military tool watch with layers of history.

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    £5k to spend on a used watch

    Quote Originally Posted by lughugger View Post
    NOS/mint 114270. My perfect do it all watch.


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    This for me. If not, then maybe some sort of vintage chronograph... a Lemania perhaps.

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    I'd scratch around for a few hundred extra and buy this brand new:

    http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p...psijwyjh0d.png

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    Ooh, let's see, something like a Zenith Pilot or JLC Master Compressor.

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    Dornblüth 99.1 .
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    If it were me I would be looking for a 114270 with the "ROLEXROLEXROLEX" rehaut. Or a nice 16570 and some change?

    Away from Rolex, an IWC mark XV with lots of change. Look for ward to the incoming post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ Mclure View Post
    Explorer 2


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    +1 for the explorer 2, but the 40mm sizen (previous gen). I recently saw a mint one in London for less than 5000

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    I would look to pick-up a pre-owned Rolex Explorer II (either the 216570 or the older 16570) or perhaps a Tudor Pelagos (there is a nice one on SC at the moment for just 1900 GBP). The Pelagos is a lot of watch for the money. A couple of years back I was looking at both the Rolex SD and the Pelagos and on the wrist I much preferred the Tudor model. 14060Ms are starting to head well above the 5000 GBP mark but you should still be able to snag one within the allocated budget.

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    These days I tend to think that every collector should have a Rolex...but that you don’t need more than one. They’re all very similar, and all excellent.
    That frees you up to be more adventurous. You can get brilliant deals on lightly used watches from the likes of IWC, Zenith, Grand Seiko, Breitling, Blancpain; well, virtually everything but Rolex. You’l find they too can be excellent, and, bought sensibly, highly cost effective.
    My tip: An El Primero Chrono from Zenith. Less than two-years old, under guarantee, not much more than half retail, and a fabulous watch.
    More fun, I think, than another Rolex. Variety is good.
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    Your taste in Rolex can change - In the past I never liked the Datejust, but I've come to appreciate it more and if going modern Rolex I now quite like the 116300 - 41mm - you can get a mint used version for well under £5k if you look around

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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
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    Yes please, utterly lovely, particularly with blue hands and indices

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    Quote Originally Posted by miff View Post
    Yes please, utterly lovely, particularly with blue hands and indices

    I like the cut o' your jib.
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    im gona be very mundane and go with an explorer or speedy, just because a speedy is on my grail list.

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    https://www.miltonaires.com/product-...y/rolex-sports

    Couple of nice pieces here on budget. Great to deal with also. But as has been well discussed they do not post. However makes for a nice trip or weekend break.

    Good luck

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    Bought mine 5 years ago and now becoming popular...available under 5k


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    Polar explorer 2 42mm or Blancpain fifty fathoms.

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    I guess it depends if this will be your only watch or if it’s part of a collection. For me after much research and thinking I know what I currently like and I don’t like it would be and of the following:

    One watch
    Rolex Datejust 36mm jubilee/fluted

    Part of a collection
    Zenith EL Primero 38mm
    JLC Reverso classic medium


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillN View Post

    (I have a 16610 from 2008 - but in a way, because I wear it in rotation, unless I keep it wound, I regularly have to change the date - so a Non_Date would suit me better as my main watch)
    Wear the 16610 and don't worry about the date being wrong. There, I've just saved you £5k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steptoe View Post
    Wear the 16610 and don't worry about the date being wrong. There, I've just saved you £5k.
    afternoon Neil

    I'll only spend it on something-else

    I have started to wear my 5513 more - no date to worry about (but it's not red)


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    The Zenith Defy currently on SC would be a strong contender or, if you want no date, possibly an IWC Portuguese chrono or speedy 60th.


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    I could do with a dress watch so either a Glashutte Original Panomatic or a JLC Reverso Grande Taille

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillN View Post
    If the thread gets a few responses, it will be interesting to see how many involve a Rolex

    I've been looking at similar watches to the 114270 - I mean similar in size and maybe design - Tudor and Longines figure - of course they are much cheaper than the Rolex and what surprises me is that say the Tudor Heritage BB 36mm sell at a discount if you shop around - Swatch Group watches, i.e the Longines are always being advertised at discounts
    It's ironic that in this price range that it's a sweet spot for Rolex, as the best bang for buck - not a phrase that gets used in conjunction with Rolex I find.

    14060 for me, maybe a Seadweller is possible for about that budget.

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    Options:

    Rolex Milgauss
    Omega Seamaster Aquaterra

    Some of the 2018-19 releases will fit your bill too!

    Have fun picking.


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    My vote it’s the none date sub !
    Closely followed by explorer 2 or a maybe a breitling navitimer world


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    Go for some high quality but under the radar watches. Chopard Luc pro one or Ebel 1911 btr chronograph or glashutte original sports evolution. You could get 2 for your budget

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    There was a chopard luc XPS in white gold on sales corner a while ago for around this money. That would be the one just for the gorgeous micro rotor!


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    I would suggest a nice IWC Doppelchronograph 3711 or a vintage Omega Speedmaster of some sort, if the budget allowed.

    In fact, scrub the Omega and get the IWC


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    Chronomaster have a few nice ones incl A Zenith, an Omega and an IWC.

    http://www.chronomaster.co.uk/new/

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    Chopard Luc Chrono One in stainless steel. I recently spent £5k (roughly) on one of these, I really think you'd be hard pressed to find a better, more impressive, more beautiful watch for the money.

    Not sure about retaining its value from here, but the price I paid for what looked like a completely unworn watch was less than half of the last retail price, so how much lower could it go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyman View Post
    214270 plus cash in hand.
    I second this

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    The 214270 is a great shout. Its the only Rolex I still have in the house. Another option for me would be the Speedmaster 60th Anniversary. Stunningly proportioned chronograph.

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    IWC Mark XII, for about 60% of your £5k budget. Excellent watch, even more excellent movement.


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