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    Shrink the collection...get better watches

    That's my way of looking at it. Reducing a big collection down to two or three watches, can be good for the soul. What's more, you can afford (arguably) better models. But most important of all....
    You have to decide what aspects of a watch you really care about. So, three watch maximum. Two is better.
    And there will be a few brave souls who decide to shrink to one watch. My heroes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    there will be a few brave souls who decide to shrink to one watch. My heroes.
    I largely agree that quality is more satisfying than quantity, but I just don't understand the idea that a watch enthusiast should aim for a single watch. One watch is for people who don't give a monkey's about watches, not the person who appreciates the nuances of this hobby.

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    The idea of owning one watch is as vacuous as suggesting you should only own one tie, one pair of shoes or one CD.

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    My view it that itís about maximising the number of watches in a collection given the following constraints:
    - what you really love and want to own (experience counts for a lot here)
    - budget
    - wear time (I like wearing my watches, no safe queens for me)

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    That's my way of looking at it. Reducing a big collection down to two or three watches, can be good for the soul. What's more, you can afford (arguably) better models. But most important of all....
    You have to decide what aspects of a watch you really care about. So, three watch maximum. Two is better.
    And there will be a few brave souls who decide to shrink to one watch. My heroes.
    Nah, too boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holsterman View Post
    Nah, too boring.
    So long as you've approached the problem scientifically.

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    The problem is when you get sentimentality attached to a watch but rarely wear it for whatever reason. The collection then grows 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkpw View Post
    So long as you've approached the problem scientifically.
    I have.

    https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...39#post4961439

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    I think three is probably a sweet spot in all honesty. A diver, a chrono and a beater would cover most bases most people will ever need from their watches. Within the range you can decide on precious metals, two tone etc. Throw in modern and / or vintage and there's plenty to think about. I've just realised I have nine watches and want a couple (ha) more so am in no way qualified to comment on this.

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    The fact we're here discussing the hobby probably means we're going to be forever collecting, adjusting collection, broadening or focussing... 'all hope is probably lost'

    Very few, very lucky people can simply keep adding to a collection, or have a very clear concept for their personal end game... and then when they reach it just stop!

    I for one accept... I'm an incurable addict... I like to try lots of different brands, new and vintage, and I'm sure I will explore lots of new watches in 2019. However, if I fall on tough times I know that a Casio F-91W would also make a great one watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK View Post
    The idea of owning one watch is as vacuous as suggesting you should only own one tie, one pair of shoes or one CD.
    These days, I think I do only own one tie....and no CDs.

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    I get the concept and have indeed got down to three at one point and then up again, then down, then up.... and so the circus continues.

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    I like variety and splashes of colour so many is my model. The idea is every so often have a cull as I do have a number that I donít wear or rarely, trouble is I have a number of micro brands and with the very low production numbers can be a real headache to find again after I miss them too much.
    Three would just never work fo me as I like them on display when not wearing.

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    I get why most people might only own one car and one house but never one watch. I should expand on that really - one watch is enough for 99% of people, but not for the good people on here.

    We are here because one watch is never enough, neither is 2 or 3, we are to share our obsession, talk about our grail watch and about our perfect duo, or trio or multiple collection.

    We all eventually find that grail, that duo, that trio or that 100 piece collection and then we share it with each other.

    We become happy and content that we have achieved nirvana.

    The odd member or two then Ďretireí from this game of watches and itís obsessive behaviour. . . . .

    The rest of us realise that grail watch turned out to not be a grail, that perfect duo or trio, wasnít quite as prefect as it seemed, so we start the search all over again.

    Iíve had some amazing watches and Iím still not there - think if I was Iíd be a bit gutted to be honest.

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    I consolidated with no regrets (see pics)

    Will prob add another next year (if only I could get a Pepsi) - then a case of rinse and repeat later on



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    What does 'better' mean?
    ďAll truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as self-evident.Ē

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    Guess “better” in the collectors eyes

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    What does 'better' mean?
    Exactly!

    I can’t see better being a main driver over a certain point. For most a certain brand is more than good enough. For me the Rolex 16600 Sea-Dweller is the best watch ever made, but it’s not going to be my only watch.

    Why limit to 1, 2, 3, or 10?

    I can see the point if you have say £20k for arguments sake (both in ready cash, and in actually mental ability have that amount put aside to spend on a watch or watches). You could buy either one watch, like a steel Patek, a precious metal Rolex (or over RRP harder to get steel), or a number of watches that make you feel good when you wear them.

    For some people the one more expensive watch is the right answer, for others it’s having a few watches that match different perceived uses. Others enjoy trying many different brands and flipping quickly to try the next release or goal. I can only speak for myself, and I buy what I like - I probably have a mental limit of the most I’d like to spend on one watch, but if my 5711 was suddenly worth £60k on the used market that’s different to what it has cost me, and I’d most likely still keep it and wear it, as it was my first Patek. I sold my first ever Rolex as a lesson that there is no point being sentimental about inanimate objects.

    None of the above options is wrong.
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    It's just a matter of time...

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    I think after a certain point in the game, there's no 'better', only 'different'
    ďAll truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as self-evident.Ē

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    By that I mean that there is not a linear progression, but a circular movement.
    ďAll truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as self-evident.Ē

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    Why does consolidation need to mean fewer more expensive watches?

    If I were to consolidate, in all honesty I'd rather have my PRS29 than my 16660. Or at least until I can get my hands on the white 36mm Everest :) but I'll just keep hold of the lot and enjoy them all seeing as I can :) I like collecting things, so until I am forced to for reasons such as space or money, I'll continue to collect. Be it shoes, guns, knives, watches, bottles of hot sauce, and so on. Variety is the spice of life :)

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    Shrink the collection...get better watches

    Well, yes, 'better' is always a matter of choice. Here's my view of a 'better' watch.
    Now, that's generally seen as a highly sought-after watch. But this is better....better looking, better to wear, more fun.

    And I'd prefer to sell the ceramic, and a couple of other watches, to get it. Purely personal of course.
    Now, here's arguably the opposite. A 40mm DayDate. Quite yummy if you like conservative watches.
    But, is it a lot more desirable than this Datejust?
    Personally, I think the notion of 'better' is more problematic here, given that the DD40 costs more than four times as much, but looks similar and is of similar quality.
    But that's just me.....
    And just to confuse matters, here's a watch highly worthwhile to own, because of inflated values.
    But is it a 'better' watch? Not to me, but clearly the market takes another view.
    And finally (phew) I see this as a 'better' watch, but generally, the market is indifferent. It's quartz, so a none-runner' . So, no real answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    What does 'better' mean?
    Something more expensive that you don't like as much

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    I would try switching the 5711 to one with a blue dial, that would be something to consider as a "number of watches neutral move", unless you really prefer the white?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holsterman View Post
    I would try switching the 5711 to one with a blue dial, that would be something to consider as a "number of watches neutral move", unless you really prefer the white?
    Just have both, surely?
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegamanic View Post
    Just have both, surely?
    Ha, well of course, but he's trying to restrict numbers. Both would be the ideal - if you can find them. The market's gone nuts for these as everyone knows. A great watch I'd certainly love to own. The Seiko looks nice as well. I'm not a Daytona fan personally, but another fantastic watch with a big following. Fluted bezels are too much for me as well, I'm not nearly enough of an extrovert. But they look great on other people.
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    I used to have one watch for years (well 2 strictly speaking, but one I wore every day except for family events).

    I had no serious interest in watches then.

    Then I got hooked. I have 35 or so watches.

    Sure I have 10 I probably never wear, but all the others get wrist time.

    I sometimes think I should scale it back, not to get a 'better' watch, just to make it more manageable, but when I start going through them I realise most were bought because I liked something about them and when I look at them again, it comes back to me.

    One, two, three watches? For some it's a goal, but I see no appeal personally.

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    I've always thought I'd get rid of everything I own if I had the hugely versatile IWC Aquatimer Titanium - the one with the matt black bezel.

    But in reality, there's about 10-12 watches I've been given for presents or scrimped and saved for that I just couldn't part with. Maybe I'd put them in storage?

    Edit: This one: 3536?
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    I could probably shrink my collection to these two - but enjoy the others as variety:


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    Think thatís the steel version, but all 3 variants of 3536 are exceptional 😍
    Quote Originally Posted by HenPecked View Post
    I've always thought I'd get rid of everything I own if I had the hugely versatile IWC Aquatimer Titanium - the one with the matt black bezel.

    But in reality, there's about 10-12 watches I've been given for presents or scrimped and saved for that I just couldn't part with. Maybe I'd put them in storage?

    Edit: This one: 3536?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holsterman View Post


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    Quote Originally Posted by Holsterman View Post
    I would try switching the 5711 to one with a blue dial, that would be something to consider as a "number of watches neutral move", unless you really prefer the white?
    I do prefer white...but I don't want either. Not that I could afford one these days with prices as they are.
    A basic Grand Seiko quartz and a white gold Daytona would work for me. And these days, gold Daytonas are not hughly more costly than steel.
    I honestly prefer just two or three watches. Concentrates the mind.In fact i'l be selling one this week to keep within my 'rules.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegamanic View Post
    Exactly!

    I canít see better being a main driver over a certain point. For most a certain brand is more than good enough. For me the Rolex 16600 Sea-Dweller is the best watch ever made, but itís not going to be my only watch.

    Why limit to 1, 2, 3, or 10?

    I can see the point if you have say £20k for arguments sake (both in ready cash, and in actually mental ability have that amount put aside to spend on a watch or watches). You could buy either one watch, like a steel Patek, a precious metal Rolex (or over RRP harder to get steel), or a number of watches that make you feel good when you wear them.

    For some people the one more expensive watch is the right answer, for others itís having a few watches that match different perceived uses. Others enjoy trying many different brands and flipping quickly to try the next release or goal. I can only speak for myself, and I buy what I like - I probably have a mental limit of the most Iíd like to spend on one watch, .........but if my 5711 was suddenly worth £60k on the used market thatís different to what it has cost me..........., and Iíd most likely still keep it and wear it, as it was my first Patek. I sold my first ever Rolex as a lesson that there is no point being sentimental about inanimate objects.

    None of the above options is wrong.
    5711, give it 4-5 years and it will be.


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    I sometimes think about shrinking my collection down to 10-15, that would include my most regularly worn, at a range of price points, and a few that I just donít want to sell. If I can be bothered that is probably what I will end up doing.

    However I have no interest in shrinking the collection to say 4-6 just to buy watches that are more expensive than the decent watches that I have. I have tried on expensive watches on numerous occasions and just canít convince myself to spend more on a single watch.

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    Owning a number of watches helps keep each of them Ďfreshí for me - I tend to wear one for 4-5 days at a time, which means some could go a month or more between wearing, which allows me to appraise them afresh, noticing new aspects or re-affirming why I bought them in the first place. Staring at the same one or two watches everyday would bore me, I think.

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    i am only just starting out but I am trying to get very disciplined - only buying in the first place what I love and continue to love for at least 6 months - it’s surprising how many things I like as a fad and then a month later I lose interest. I also have a rule that I buy one watch per year and up to a collection size of 5. Currently I have a sub and a DJ but in 2019 I think I will add a VC Overseas Gen 2.

    I know overs love buying and flipping and each to their own... I like the diversity of the collecting element as well as the collections themselves.

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    Perhaps this just comes down to whether you are a 'collector' or not. I seem to wage a constant battle to keep-down the number of possessions. As I enjoy possessions, this is not easy. I hope, one day, to have just a single watch. Like normal people. Not there yet.....

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    I got down to one watch.. then realised each day is different.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKitega View Post
    I got down to one watch.. then realised each day is different.


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    I had high hopes of you......

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    I had high hopes of you......
    To be fair, my ideal watch is not out there..

    Lume
    Titanium
    GMT
    Day function
    Super accurate
    38-41mm size
    Prestige

    Hence my search continues but happy to rotate three watches until someone makes the above watch.

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    Well, I assume the nearest to that specification is likely to be a spring-drive at some point. A mechanical watch won't be 'super accurate'. It's a very demanding set of criteria.

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    Well it will be 99.99% accurate if itís one of the latest specifications.
    It's just a matter of time...

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