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    Good luck to everyone enjoying it tomorrow!
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    Good luck to those doing the London marathon, look forward to post run analysis and times

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    Bummer - I am struggling with the tracking app. I can see how they are getting on at distance markers, but not the GPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrzej View Post
    Bummer - I am struggling with the tracking app. I can see how they are getting on at distance markers, but not the GPS.
    Yeah, I was also told the app was pretty rubbish at tracking. So were some of the arrangements. Compared to Berlin it felt very amateurish to be honest. The route and starting point could be better located too, considering London has so much to offer. Shocking that some people were missing medals when they collected their bags and then were told they had run out of medals!

    At least personally I did much better than Berlin. Not target time but that target was set before injuries, COVID and I didnt know at that time that I would be running 2 on back to back weekends. So not disappointed with myself today.

    GPS is such a liar!


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    First ever London Marathonlast ever London Marathon or any marathon for that matter 🤣

    How do people get addicted to these ?

    3 hours 49 minsthrew my guts up at 600 metres to go! Tactical chunder is the saying I believe. I had no control. Some poor chap In front of me cramped up so bad at same time 4 chaps were trying to carry him over the line .

    I was quite comfortable up to 19-20 miles then faded badly, half way I was 1 hour 43 mins I think .

    Never ever ever again. Ill do halves and 10ks but Im not built for marathons at 14 1/2 stone although dropped to 14.1 dead for the day and finished at 13 stone 6!lbs !

    Hardest part was 3 weeks off the booze 😂
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    FK77 very respectable time especially considering back to back marathon weekend. Not to be sniffed at
    PAM580. Pretty much the exact same experience (and similar time)and sentiment on my first marathon. I think my exact words were "f*#$ing horrible". Running my 4th marathon next weekend, it may not be your last.
    Well done

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    Quote Originally Posted by fierbois16 View Post
    it may not be your last
    Its not his last. Anyone who does 3:49, especially at their first one, isnt going to stop there. Give it a few days/weeks :)

    I entered the ballots for both Berlin and London 2022 as soon as they opened. I really hope I get to run Berlin again and do better than last Sunday. The event was like clockwork, no panic, no drama, slightly less commercialised and that was despite them offering a whole lot more to the participants.

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    Sounds a good club.

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    Thanks chaps but 100% never ever running full marathon again! My goal was to go sub 4 hours and I managed that. I never want to experience the pain/feeling of those last 5-6 miles ever again when my entire body was screaming at me to give up.

    Ill do some halves maybe as thats quite comfortable but for exercise I much prefer my concept 2 rower so Ill stick to that predominantly.

    I got the email for the 2022 Ballot and deleted it instantly 😂 good luck for those entering next year and i dough my cap to you for doing Berlin and London ! I was 32 when I started applying for the ballot and it took me 10 years to get in!! The body doesnt recover quite like it did 10 years ago !

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    Chris thats a brilliant time - congratulations. Just out of interest how long was your longest training run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FK77 View Post
    Its not his last. Anyone who does 3:49, especially at their first one, isnt going to stop there. Give it a few days/weeks :)

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    Once the memory of the pain fades there is a little voice that gets louder, telling you it wasn't soo bad . I did 3:47 in my first and absolutely swore blind never again! Finger crossed for your ballot entries

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    I ran Berlin last weekend and London yesterday. The London supporting was 10x better than Berlin! Easy to see why its next to impossible to get a bib via the lottery as most people seemed to be wearing charity shirts (me included)!


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    I also did London via charity. I found the crowds at Berlin equally good, in fact far more people cheered me by name over there than here and I didnt have a single supporter at either. But the organisation of the event and what you get was far better in Berlin IMHO. If I have to choose one of these two in future, it will be an easy decision in favour of Berlin even though I live in London.

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    Have to disagree.

    London is epic.

    There isn't a feeling comparable to running over Tower Bridge IMHO.

    Other races are often in more beautiful or challenging places but the connection isn't as strong (for me, at least).
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    Then its a personal thing I would say because for me the sight of Brandenburg Gate was more energising than Tower Bridge.

    Berlin all the way for me even though I really struggled there. The start/finish area, how well-organised it was, the music, atmosphere, the whole offering, London didnt even have medal engraving, for example. Well, talking of medals they didnt even have enough of them to go round!

    Canary Wharf was the highlight for me in terms of how lively it was. I think they can improve the London route so much if they include a bit more of central London.

    Perhaps it also varies from year to year?

    At the end of the day, they are both major marathons and massively oversubscribed.

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    Yes, the Wharf section is brilliant.

    The most rewarding race I have ever done was one I did mostly in the dark by myself and there were only a handful of people at the finish line. Not sure what that says about me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    Have to disagree.

    London is epic.

    There isn't a feeling comparable to running over Tower Bridge IMHO.

    Other races are often in more beautiful or challenging places but the connection isn't as strong (for me, at least).
    I can assure you that running over the glass floor above the bridge would be significantly more incomparable

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    Is that poss?

    We should use it as a venue for our next GTG.

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    Berlin was better organised (my wife couldnt find the meeting point after the race yesterday and was given incorrect directions by a steward - why doesnt the London Marathon app have a map of the finishing area?) but the noise and enthusiasm crossing Tower Bridge and the last couple of miles on Embankment, Parliament Sq etc was unsurpassed even better than the NYC marathon (where I live). Crowds were a little thin in Berlin but I wonder if that was due to covid restrictions?
    My only regret is that I didnt take any pictures while out on the course. Already entered the lottery for next year but not holding my breath!


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    While running I only took one photo and that too just because many runners were getting their phones out which I followed like a sheep:



    Btw the guy right in front of my camera had almost made me trip over him and fall earlier at the Embankment when he suddenly stopped in the middle of the road to stretch lol.


    One thing that made my day was this:

    I didn’t hang around the finish area other than for a couple of photos and stretching and headed home soon after finishing. Was probably the only finisher at Green Park station at that particular time. As I was walking down the escalators in agony, people going up the other side started clapping, cheering, whistling and shouting congratulatory things. It was loud, made me feel very special. They weren’t marathon crowd though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    Is that poss?

    We should use it as a venue for our next GTG.

    I'd try it first, take fresh undies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    Is that poss?

    We should use it as a venue for our next GTG.
    Ive been to several functions there and the glass floor is impressive. We also got a tour to see the actual mechanics of the bridge which is used to raise and lower it. This was mind blowing when you consider how old the bridge is.
    Fantastic British engineering still in working order today, testimony to those who designed and built it all those years ago.

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    ^Thanks both, sounds like something the children might enjoy too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4tt View Post
    I'd try it first, take fresh undies.
    I've written myself a note.

    Wear cycle clips as a precaution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rory View Post
    Chris thats a brilliant time - congratulations. Just out of interest how long was your longest training run?

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    Hi Rory

    Longest training run was 21 miles, I only planned to do 20 miles but the Mrs was late picking me up in the car so I ran an extra mile lol.

    Im not really built for long distance running, Im 6ft 3 and walk around at around 15 stone, I trimmed down to 14 stone dead for the marathon (mainly through a month off the booze) and finished the race at 13 stone 6 lbs!!!

    I know I couldnt have possibly tried any harder or pushed myself any further, I puked my guts up 600 metres from the finish and then again 4-5 times in the St Johns ambulance 20 mins after the finish!

    The atmosphere and crowd was amazing but I was so fixated on time I wasnt really taking it all in which was a real shame.

    All the best

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    I cant imagine feeling so bad that I throw up but still finish a marathon in 3:49. I have never vomited during/after a run even though I dont skip runs when Im ill. My conclusion is Im not trying hard enough!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FK77 View Post
    I cant imagine feeling so bad that I throw up but still finish a marathon in 3:49. I have never vomited during/after a run even though I dont skip runs when Im ill. My conclusion is Im not trying hard enough!
    Or you might just be built differently. I know I used to puke after most trainings when I was swimming
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    I was about 5 minutes quicker over 21 miles during the race than I was in my training run.

    First time Ive been sick through physical exertion as opposed to food poisoning or alcahol 😂

    Only way Id do a marathon again would be to mince around at a leisurely pace and just really soak in the crowd and atmosphere. Getting fixated on time sort of ruined the overall experience but on the other hand Im really glad I went for it and gave it my all.

    Getting overtaken by a bloke carrying/wearing a full aeroplane ✈️ costume was pretty demoralising at around mile 18-19 I think 😂

    My Nike app said I finished at 3 hour 44 mins but that paused for my pee break at mile 4 and poo break at mile 19 lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    Or you might just be built differently. I know I used to puke after most trainings when I was swimming
    The very first time I worked out at the gym, back in 2012, I almost puked when the PT was giving me an induction. It wasnt even cardio, probably was on the arm curl machine from memory lol.

    Believe me, I was a couch potato until not long ago and am a new runner, started at age 39 and first 2 years were not serious or committed running.

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    I have always felt dreadful at the end of each marathon (only done 3, 4th next Sunday), totally depleted, the usual banging headache, feeling sick exhaustion etc. Confident i couldn't have tried harder, the only reason i enter again after saying 'never again' is that i would like to cross the line feeling good. Some runners make it look easy

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    So pleased to read all the above, and those of friends and colleagues on Facebook, my congratulations to everyone. I can feel the pain and excitement of the runs.

    It is 27 years now since I last did a marathon (and have 17 under my belt), no urge to do another, at my age running a half is as good as it gets, though getting a "good for age" time would be a breeze - it is only 5 hours!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAM580 View Post
    I was about 5 minutes quicker over 21 miles during the race than I was in my training run.

    First time Ive been sick through physical exertion as opposed to food poisoning or alcahol 😂

    Only way Id do a marathon again would be to mince around at a leisurely pace and just really soak in the crowd and atmosphere. Getting fixated on time sort of ruined the overall experience but on the other hand Im really glad I went for it and gave it my all.

    Getting overtaken by a bloke carrying/wearing a full aeroplane ✈️ costume was pretty demoralising at around mile 18-19 I think 😂

    My Nike app said I finished at 3 hour 44 mins but that paused for my pee break at mile 4 and poo break at mile 19 lol
    I bet with your current fitness levels you could run a 4hr 20min and wonder what all the fuss about .

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    Hi Rory

    Its funny you should say that.. I have actually just applied for the ballot again with the intention that if I did get in again (unlikely) Id just mince round in 4 hours 30 min really taking in the atmosphere and high fiving every person in the crowd.

    I was so focused on going sub 4 hours I didnt really take anything in or enjoy it which is a shame. Saw so many people on phones recording themselves, talking to friends/family, etc

    That said, I achieved what I set out to do so still very proud of that and I would have been so disappointed to go through all that pain and come up just short.

    Even though I got in on the ballot I also raised around 2,700 for SANDS as well so very proud of that too.

    All the best

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    Nice one Chris and a great charity too

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAM580 View Post
    Its funny you should say that.. I have actually just applied for the ballot again with the intention that if I did get in again (unlikely) Id just mince round in 4 hours 30 min really taking in the atmosphere and high fiving every person in the crowd.
    LOL! That vow didnt last long, did it?

    Even though I wanted sub 4 hours (bit didnt get it), I ran quite a bit extra to go out of my way countless times just to high five kids and at least half a dozen times to tap the power up type placards. I dont think that makes a huge difference in the grand scheme of things unless youre an elite and even a few seconds matter. In my 4:11, I would have probably saved a total of 2 of minutes max by not doing the above. Even that plus a 4 mins stop to stretch calves and quads after halfway point and another 2 mins stretching stop at 35km wouldnt have given me my sub 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FK77 View Post
    LOL! That vow didnt last long, did it?

    Even though I wanted sub 4 hours (bit didnt get it), I ran quite a bit extra to go out of my way countless times just to high five kids and at least half a dozen times to tap the power up type placards. I dont think that makes a huge difference in the grand scheme of things unless youre an elite and even a few seconds matter. In my 4:11, I would have probably saved a total of 2 of minutes max by not doing the above. Even that plus a 4 mins stop to stretch calves and quads after halfway point and another 2 mins stretching stop at 35km wouldnt have given me my sub 4.
    Hahah! I know right 🤦*♂️

    I did give thumbs up to anyone that cheered my name snd I did fist bump a few people but didnt slow down or stop even when I saw family.

    Rory, youre a gent, very much appreciated 😊

    Going to look out for a half maybe in upcoming weeks to keep legs going and hopefully start my rowing again tomorrow. Can almost walk down the stairs now without using arms for support lol

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    Been only 3 days of not running and I’m itching to get back to it. Haven’t had such a “long break” from running for a while. Knees still ache a bit on stairs or walking downhill so restraining myself for now but I lack will power when it comes to backing off from running.

    Went to the gym on Monday as an excuse to walk but only did mobility and foam rolling exercises. Lot of walking yesterday made my knee pain a little worse. Leg day at gym today after 2-3 weeks of physio forbidding me from doing any strength training and focusing on mobility/stretching and foam rolling instead due to my injuries. Felt good to lift weights again. Will start running as soon as the knee pain settles.
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    Having never run a Marathon, or anything organised over about 15K, i have entered myself in a 50K "ultra" marathon next Easter as i would like to get one in the books before I am 40

    This will be some interesting next few months of training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jordan-arch View Post
    Having never run a Marathon, or anything organised over about 15K, i have entered myself in a 50K "ultra" marathon next Easter as i would like to get one in the books before I am 40

    This will be some interesting next few months of training.
    My Brother in law enters a lot of ultras, his last one being the cape wrath 8 day event. I completed stages 4 & 5 with him on a recce weekend earlier this year as part of his preparation. He now prefers ultras over marathons as he finds them easier. Its more a case of run / walk rather than pushing yourself against the clock and the associated pressure that brings when you do a marathon. He concentrates less on speed / pace and trains with more 'time on feet' in mind.

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    In my mind it's only technically an ultra as its slightly more than a marathon, in my head anyway. Plan starts in anger tomorrow.
    Enjoyed my weekend morning runs over the summer, gave me a good chance to bang though a load of audiobooks that I have had on the back burner for a while


    Now do I need a new running watch is the big question....

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    Good luck on starting your training. And we all know that the correct answer to your question is of course you need a new watch :-)


    I have my first marathon on the 24th October. I'm doing Dublin virtually as the main event has been cancelled. If it goes well, I am thinking about doing a 50km "ultra" in February.

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    Anybody taking part in the Manchester marathon / half tommorow?

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    Running my first half marathon tomorrow morning (Oxford) and feeling a little nervy about it. Intellectually I'm sure I'll be fine, but definitely some nerves, probably not helped by the last couple of weeks of training being somewhat rubbish due to a heavy cold. Anyway, getting my stuff together ready for the morning and heading for a good night of sleep shortly, hopefully.
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    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave E View Post
    Running my first half marathon tomorrow morning (Oxford) and feeling a little nervy about it. Intellectually I'm sure I'll be fine, but definitely some nerves, probably not helped by the last couple of weeks of training being somewhat rubbish due to a heavy cold. Anyway, getting my stuff together ready for the morning and heading for a good night of sleep shortly, hopefully.
    As long as you're properly over your cold, you'll be fine. You sort of race on your training from three weeks ago (very rough approximation). Your two weeks of rubbish training is when you would have been tapering anyway - you've just tapered a bit extra. Just make sure you don't go out too fast.

    And if it all goes to **** tomorrow (a) you've still run your first half and (b) you're guaranteed a PB for your 2nd half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FK77 View Post
    Good luck!
    Ta!

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    As long as you're properly over your cold, you'll be fine. You sort of race on your training from three weeks ago (very rough approximation). Your two weeks of rubbish training is when you would have been tapering anyway - you've just tapered a bit extra. Just make sure you don't go out too fast.

    And if it all goes to **** tomorrow (a) you've still run your first half and (b) you're guaranteed a PB for your 2nd half.
    True, it's gonna be a PB tomorrow, and that just sets a target for the next time!
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    Good luck, try to enjoy the experience of running with others and not get to focused on time, easier said than done

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    Hope it goes well Dave. It is only 4 parkruns, and even easier just 2 x 10k. I am sure you will be fine, and as others have said above, just enjoy the experience,the time is irrelevant.

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    Well, the first 14k didn't go badly, after that it got a bit messy. Definitely felt the missed training. However, I still completed it and, as my first half, it's automatically a PB (2:04:56, given how I felt I'm happy with that.)

    I'll do a half again.
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    Just completed the Sherwood Pines 10k this morning with the wife. Had my Garmin smart watch on but it got snagged on my sleeve and reset so no time recorded. Have to wait on the chip time on the website.
    Anyhow finished the run, lovely scenery, entry money donation to the Forestry Commission, good way to spend our 21st wedding anniversary.
    Sunday pub lunch/beer awaits.

    1:01:05 happy with that.

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