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    Watches that define a Brand.

    Nearly all watch companies have one watch that defines it brand , so for example (IMHO)

    Blancpain = Fifty Fathoms
    Heuer = Monaco
    Cartier = Santos
    Breguet = Type XX
    Brietling = Navitimer
    VC = Overseas
    Audemars Piguet = Royal Oak
    Patek = Calatrava
    Hubot = Big Bang
    Omega = Speedmaster
    Doxa = Sharkhunter
    JLC = Memovex
    Hamilton = Ventura
    GP = Three Bridges
    Seiko = 6105
    Casio = F 91

    to name a few.

    To be honest I am struggling identify the one Rolex that defines its brand. Some would say it's the bog standard DJ, but some might say it's the Day Date, the Pepsi GMT, or the Submariner hence have excluded it.

    So what other watches do you think define its brand?

    (It's just a bit of fun, and everyone opinion is valid unless they are wrong)

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    For Rolex I would say the 1016, I guess the majority would say the sub
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    I would say a solid gold Datejust on a bloke wearing a golf sweater defines Rolex...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinnlover View Post
    I would say a solid gold Datejust on a bloke wearing a golf sweater defines Rolex...
    Yeah, fair point. I don't know why I bother.
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Maybe this is one of the strengths of the brand.
    I find the Sub, SD, DJ, Day Date, and Daytona equally iconic and representing the brand.
    Perhaps is a case that the brand is stronger than the models?
    Don’t know and don’t care would be my answer...

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    Rolex - Explorer 1 👍

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    Rolex, is different, as I see it. They don't have iconic watches, but iconic model lines.

    Sub, other derivatives, SD, Date etc just build on the basic "look"
    DJ, TT jubilee for the junior
    DD, for the man who "made it", or Tony Soprano
    Daytona, nah, just another chrono.

    Then again, outside of this bubble, no one really cares

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyg View Post
    Nearly all watch companies have one watch that defines it brand , so for example (IMHO)

    Blancpain = Fifty Fathoms
    Heuer = Monaco
    Cartier = Santos
    Breguet = Type XX
    Brietling = Navitimer
    VC = Overseas
    Audemars Piguet = Royal Oak
    Patek = Calatrava
    Hubot = Big Bang
    Omega = Speedmaster
    Doxa = Sharkhunter
    JLC = Memovex
    Hamilton = Ventura
    GP = Three Bridges
    Seiko = 6105
    Casio = F 91

    to name a few.

    To be honest I am struggling identify the one Rolex that defines its brand. Some would say it's the bog standard DJ, but some might say it's the Day Date, the Pepsi GMT, or the Submariner hence have excluded it.

    So what other watches do you think define its brand?

    (It's just a bit of fun, and everyone opinion is valid unless they are wrong)
    Missing

    Panerai - Luminor
    A.Lange & Sohne - Lange 1

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    Tudor - Black Bay red
    Glashutte - panomaticlunar
    Zenith - 1969 tricolor Chrono
    Bulova - accutron spaceview

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    I'd say for JLC it's the Reverso rather than the memovox and for Cartier the Tank rather than the Santos.

    LIP - Nautic Ski
    Bulova - Accutron Space View
    Pulsar - P2 (I watched Live and Let Die last night)
    IWC - Mk X

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waldorf View Post
    Rolex - Explorer 1 
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    When I think of Rolex the watch that comes to mind is a yellow gold day-date, a 'dictator special'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK View Post
    I'd say for JLC it's the Reverso rather than the memovox and for Cartier the Tank rather than the Santos.

    LIP - Nautic Ski
    Bulova - Accutron Space View
    Pulsar - P2 (I watched Live and Let Die last night)
    IWC - Mk X
    Unsure on IWC references but I would say maybe the Big Pilot

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    Vostok - Amphibia
    Raketa - Big Zero
    Bell & Ross - that square thing
    Eterna - Kontiki
    Enicar - Sherpa
    And seeing as no reply is complete without mentioning Rolex - Cellini

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    Grand Seiko snowflake

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK View Post
    I'd say for JLC it's the Reverso rather than the memovox and for Cartier the Tank rather than the Santos.

    LIP - Nautic Ski
    Bulova - Accutron Space View
    Pulsar - P2 (I watched Live and Let Die last night)
    IWC - Mk X
    For IWC I'd say any pilot. Also agree with your JLC and Cartier options.

    Ulysse Nardin - Maxi Marine or maybe the Freak.
    FP Journe - probably the Chronometre Bleu
    Bvlgari - Octo Finissimo Ultra Thin
    Chopard - Mille Miglia

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBeardy View Post
    Missing

    Panerai - Luminor<snip>...

    I think that needs to be further defined to a manual-winding, two-hander like a PAM000/112.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jwg663 View Post
    I think that needs to be further defined to a manual-winding, two-hander like a PAM000/112.


    JMVHO.
    I agree base is ace...…………...I am bias though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyp View Post
    Bvlgari - Octo Finissimo Ultra Thin
    Not the Genta designed Bvlgari Bvlgari?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK View Post
    Not the Genta designed Bvlgari Bvlgari?
    It's a good alternative, but they've fleshed out the Octo line so much over the last 4/5 years in all manners that I now identify Bvlgari with that design.

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    For Rolex it depends on which side of the political spectrum you're on

    If you're right wing capitalist you're wearing a Rolex Day-Date President (ala JFK)

    If you're a left wing communist you're wearing a Rolex Submariner, or two at the same time (ala Fidel Castro)

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    For Seiko the SKX models are in with a good shout.

    Or any watch that uses the Seiko 5 movement. Its this movement that defined the brand.

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    A thinly veiled 'Rolex am the best ' thread?

    I can't see how anyone can define Seiko (especially) or Omega in terms of a single watch and struggle to do so with Rolex...

    Rolex = Sub if I'm in a good mood or, if I'm honest, a gaudy all gold thing...

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    Longines is a hard one... lots of successful models, but arguably it's their vintage chronological movements that seem to be best remembered (30ch?). I guess the Legend Diver seems to be a successful re-issue of a successful original piece.

    Oris - technically speaking it would be something with their own in house 110 based calibre but again I think most people will think of the 65 diver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyg View Post
    Nearly all watch companies have one watch that defines it brand , so for example (IMHO)

    Blancpain = Fifty Fathoms
    Heuer = Monaco
    Cartier = Santos
    Breguet = Type XX
    Brietling = Navitimer
    VC = Overseas
    Audemars Piguet = Royal Oak
    Patek = Calatrava
    Hubot = Big Bang
    Omega = Speedmaster
    Doxa = Sharkhunter
    JLC = Memovex
    Hamilton = Ventura
    GP = Three Bridges
    Seiko = 6105
    Casio = F 91

    to name a few.

    To be honest I am struggling identify the one Rolex that defines its brand. Some would say it's the bog standard DJ, but some might say it's the Day Date, the Pepsi GMT, or the Submariner hence have excluded it.

    So what other watches do you think define its brand?

    (It's just a bit of fun, and everyone opinion is valid unless they are wrong)
    Not much to disagree with although for JLC I would have said it is the Reverso.

    I would add:
    Corum = Golden Bridge (or arguably Bubble)
    Bremont = ALT1-C

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    Agree base dial and manual wind for Panerai, but I would say wire lug radiomir a la 3646 style. And steel.

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    The Monaco wasn't of interest to any of the racing drivers or pretty much anyone else back in the day before slipping into obscurity. Renewed interest in McQueen (who only wore one in the film because it looked different) and Le Mans 15 or so years ago encouraged TAG to reissue it and use it in advertising again and again and again and again to the point where they even doctored a picture of McQueen so he's now wearing the new TAG version.

    I'd say the Carrera was more the watch that defined the brand (it's been in continuous (AFAIK) production since the 1960s, much like the 911 with which it shares its name) and the Autavia's links to motorsport (off the top of my head, worn by Rindt, Andretti, Siffert, Hill, Villeneuve and probably more) make it arguably more interesting than the Monaco.

    Omega is much like Rolex, but have been considerably more adventurous over the years.

    Diving: any Seamaster but the 300 and PloProf probably lead the way.
    Chrono: Speedy any day of the week.
    Electronic watches: they were pioneers in this, has to be the Marine Chronometer
    Dress: no idea but there are billions of Constellations etc to choose from.
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    On the OP’s list I would argue that the defining Doxa should be the Sub Professional (orange dial), as opposed to the Sharkhunter (black dial).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartynJC (UK) View Post
    Casio - G-SHOCK
    F-91w surely?

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    Tudor Snowflake surely. 9411 maybe.


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    Some good shouts especially the JLC reverso, the Longiness Legend etc.

    But please note, there are no wrong answers.

    Regarding Omega and despite owning a Seamaster, I still think of the speedier in the first instance when someone mention Omega.

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    If we are talking defining a brand then would disagree with Vacheron being the overseas


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    This book has a fair stab at answering this question,


    This the list the author came up with,


    I thinks its as close anyone will get.

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    It's more the smaller, more niche brands that have a singular models that is immediately identifiable with it (e.g. Nomos and the Tangente) . The bigger ones will always have competing models that are their flagships.

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    I'd say Rolex = sub , mainly demonstrated by the countless homages!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinnlover View Post
    This book has a fair stab at answering this question,


    This the list the author came up with,


    I thinks its as close anyone will get.
    No Heuer. Thinking about it the Monaco is more TAG than Heuer anyway.
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    Corum - Bridge, Bubble or Admirals Cup ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyg View Post
    Regarding Omega and despite owning a Seamaster, I still think of the speedier in the first instance when someone mention Omega.
    You see I’m the other way around. I own both Seamaster and Speedy, but when Omega is mentioned my first thought is a Blue faced Seamaster.

    As you say, no wrong answers as very subjective.


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    Universal Genčve - Polerouter
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    Timex - Triathlon

    Well, there needs to be something on the list that I’ve actually owned...

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    Rolex - Real estate agent with SS watch bought from the gray market.


    OR


    Rolex - Ace car salesman with reddish tan and few thick gold rings and a full gold submariner with blue bezel.

    OR

    Rolex - A guy visiting AD wearing TT datejust and asking for a daytona or pepsi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK View Post
    Universal Genčve - Polerouter
    Yema - Superman
    Agree regarding Universal Geneve. Polerouter Sub is very much underrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveA View Post
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    Disagree
    156 or ezm 1

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    Benrus - Sky Chief
    IWC - Pilot, or should that be Portuguese, or Aquatimer, or Ingenieur

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    I suppose it depends on what perspective you're looking at it from.

    The manufacturers themselves might have a view on this. That would be interesting.

    This may differ from the perspective of a watch enthusiast.

    As for what watch may be defined as iconic by members of the public? Most people probably haven't even heard of most manufacturers on your list.

    But as Simon K said - the Tank for me defines Cartier. And I suppose from a watch buying public point of view, DJ for Rolex.

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    Orient- Mako, or Bambino?
    Seiko- has to be SKX, or maybe Monster?
    Vostok- Amphibia yes, but Scuba Dude or Zissou?
    Fortis- Cosmonaut
    Oris- TT1 diver
    Omega- Speedy Pro for me
    Rolex- again for me it's the Sub Date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apm101 View Post
    Orient- Mako, or Bambino?
    Seiko- has to be SKX, or maybe Monster?
    Vostok- Amphibia yes, but Scuba Dude or Zissou?
    Fortis- Cosmonaut
    Oris- TT1 diver
    Omega- Speedy Pro for me
    Rolex- again for me it's the Sub Date.

    For me, Seiko would be something with an LCD digital display, and Oris would be the Big Crown Pointer Date.

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