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    Question for GS Snowflake owners

    I'm trying to achieve the best fit with my Snowflake, but only seem to have half links and whole links, so it's either a bit loose or a bit tight. Should it come with three quarter links or other differently sized links to achieve a good fit? I'm sure my other GS does.

    If not is there anything clever I can do, for example do two half links come up bigger than one whole link?

    Thanks (no need for anyone to post about how much better Rolex is with its easy glide link system thing).

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    Hi,

    Just halves and wholes on mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsmith1974 View Post
    Hi,

    Just halves and wholes on mine.

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    Thanks for checking. I wonder if two halves make more than a whole...!

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    Two halves do indeed make more than one whole on both my titanium and steel GS five link bracelets. This is because the halves are not actually halves, but a bit more (9mm standard link vs 6.5mm 'half' link)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mindforge View Post
    Thanks for checking. I wonder if two halves make more than a whole...!
    It may sound silly, but I have seen watches where two ‘halves’ can be more or less than a whole!
    This could be your solution

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    Hm. OK maybe I need to try replacing two whole links with three halves, to hopefully get to about 1.75!

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    Might as well try if you have them?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsmith1974 View Post
    Might as well try if you have them?


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    Yup just means another trip down to the Seiko Boutique as I don't want to mess up the titanium links or lose a pin or collar...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindforge View Post
    Hm. OK maybe I need to try replacing two whole links with three halves, to hopefully get to about 1.75!
    I replaced a 'whole' with 'two halves' and got an absolutely perfect fit, so definitely worth a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindforge View Post
    Yup just means another trip down to the Seiko Boutique as I don't want to mess up the titanium links or lose a pin or collar...
    Love GS but I sometimes wished they used screws, and had an adjustable clasp (or at least comfort half link) and a tapered bracelet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsmith1974 View Post
    Love GS but I sometimes wished they used screws
    As a Snowflake owner myself, I agree screws could be more convenient but I've read more than once, the reason the bracelet is pins and collars is the screws going directly into the titanium is not seen as the best idea, apparently ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    As a Snowflake owner myself, I agree screws could be more convenient but I've read more than once, the reason the bracelet is pins and collars is the screws going directly into the titanium is not seen as the best idea, apparently ??
    I figured they’d be a reason but I think they do this on all models not just titanium? My guess was that pins are less likely to unpin themselves than a screw would be to unscrew itself. But that’s just a guess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsmith1974 View Post
    I figured they’d be a reason but I think they do this on all models not just titanium? My guess was that pins are less likely to unpin themselves than a screw would be to unscrew itself. But that’s just a guess.


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    Actually not quite so, my other GS's in stainless are screwed but my other Ti one is pins/collars

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    As a Snowflake owner myself, I agree screws could be more convenient but I've read more than once, the reason the bracelet is pins and collars is the screws going directly into the titanium is not seen as the best idea, apparently ??
    Yup apparently. My stainless steel one has screws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindforge View Post
    Yup apparently. My stainless steel one has screws.
    Ok sorry, I may have remembered that wrong. Will double check on the chrono and Peacock tomorrow.


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    My HiBeat also has screws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klunk View Post
    My HiBeat also has screws.
    Which model ?? They do both Ti and SS.

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    I'll look at buying a GS again when they fit a micro adjustable clasp (ideally like the IWC one). Whilst the size of the smaller links does enable some fine tuning a clasp with adjustment on the fly would be so much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deepreddave View Post
    I'll look at buying a GS again when they fit a micro adjustable clasp (ideally like the IWC one). Whilst the size of the smaller links does enable some fine tuning a clasp with adjustment on the fly would be so much better.
    My other GS has a perfect fit for me, more so than a glide lock that I just find myself adjusting the whole time plus the clasp itself is more bulky and less forgiving a fit on the underside of the wrist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deepreddave View Post
    I'll look at buying a GS again when they fit a micro adjustable clasp (ideally like the IWC one). Whilst the size of the smaller links does enable some fine tuning a clasp with adjustment on the fly would be so much better.
    Pretty sure I saw mention of an adjustable clasp for a GS diver recently. Hopefully it’s on the way for the whole range.


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    Question for GS Snowflake owners

    Here it is... not GS though... doh!

    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bo0w819n...=1whgg0bt4xtsb


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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    As a Snowflake owner myself, I agree screws could be more convenient but I've read more than once, the reason the bracelet is pins and collars is the screws going directly into the titanium is not seen as the best idea, apparently ??
    Quite correct - likely to cause galling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hughtrimble View Post
    I replaced a 'whole' with 'two halves' and got an absolutely perfect fit, so definitely worth a try.
    Aha good to know. I will try the same as a whole is too tight and a whole and a half is too loose, so should be perfect. Thanks.

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    I've always felt that Grand Seiko watches respond very well to the bracelet being replaced by a good leather strap. More so than most other brands. Don't know why, but none of my GS's have ever survived with the bracelet in place.
    And you no longer get these issues about 'fit'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    I've always felt that Grand Seiko watches respond very well to the bracelet being replaced by a good leather strap. More so than most other brands. Don't know why, but none of my GS's have ever survived with the bracelet in place.
    And you no longer get these issues about 'fit'.
    No good if you prefer a bracelet to a strap though is it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hughtrimble View Post
    Quite correct - likely to cause galling.
    Interested as to why - Breitling use screws on Ti bracelets...

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    I've always felt that Grand Seiko watches respond very well to the bracelet being replaced by a good leather strap. More so than most other brands. Don't know why, but none of my GS's have ever survived with the bracelet in place.
    And you no longer get these issues about 'fit'.
    Some look good I agree, but I wouldn't say those like the Snowflake and the 9s mechanical as the lugs are quite long, so it would leave an unsightly gap between them. I actually have a GS black leather strap and deployant for my sbgr053 but have never tried it, mainly as I find the bracelet so comfortable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by waser View Post
    Here it is... not GS though... doh
    Could well be tempted when it's across the range. I appreciate the slim fit logic but still want the adjustment. No idea why it's taken so long though....

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanBear View Post
    Interested as to why - Breitling use screws on Ti bracelets...
    I'm not all up on the metallurgical side of this, just aware that some materials do not behave well together when certain forces are applied and this results in galling.

    How each material has been treated (e.g. coated, anodised, heat treated etc.) will impact how they interact. I'm more familiar with this in terms of folding knives, where you have titanium lock bars interfacing with hardened steel, and different manufacturers do different things to try and reduce interface issues such as by hardening the surface of the titanium where it contacts the steel. Some even insert a hardened steel face into the titanium so the blade only contacts that rather than the titanium.

    So Breitling may have treated the materials and designed how they physically contact one another in such a way as to minimise the issues that can arise. Or maybe they have steel inserts where the screws thread into?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsmith1974 View Post
    Love GS but I sometimes wished they used screws, and had an adjustable clasp (or at least comfort half link) and a tapered bracelet.


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    I agree... I know the reasons but dislike pins and collars on a watch of this quality. That said, I have a Blancpain where the main bracelet to case is exactly that despite screws everwhere else so probably no biggie. Snowflake is a lovely thing however...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pupp View Post
    I agree... I know the reasons but dislike pins and collars on a watch of this quality. That said, I have a Blancpain where the main bracelet to case is exactly that despite screws everwhere else so probably no biggie. Snowflake is a lovely thing however...
    The pins and collars setup is equally as good as screws so what is it you dislike about it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    The pins and collars setup is equally as good as screws so what is it you dislike about it ?
    The fact (on regular Seiko) have had them slacken off and fail. Prefer the obvious integrity of screws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pupp View Post
    The fact (on regular Seiko) have had them slacken off and fail. Prefer the obvious integrity of screws.
    I'm fairly sure I've heard tell that screws fail too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    I'm fairly sure I've heard tell that screws fail too.
    You asked what I dislike; I answered. Am I wrong about what I dislike somehow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pupp View Post
    You asked what I dislike; I answered. Am I wrong about what I dislike somehow?
    Not at all, this is a discussion forum. I offered an alternative answer to yours that's all.

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    As an update to this finally got round to replacing a whole link and a half link with two half links. This comes to something like 1.25 and is perfect, very pleased and really comfortable in titanium.

    Interestingly the beads of rice bracelet apparently has micro adjustment within each link which is clever!

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