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    Sorry i am rather naive when it comes to Tudor/Rolex.

    I am aware that originally tudor was setup by someone from rolex to produce the same quality but at a lower price.

    So when did the link sever?

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    Thanks guys for all the suggestions. A FOIS should be with me by Wednesday :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by trott3r View Post
    Sorry i am rather naive when it comes to Tudor/Rolex.

    I am aware that originally tudor was setup by someone from rolex to produce the same quality but at a lower price.

    So when did the link sever?
    Never.
    They are still owned by Rolex


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ar.parask View Post
    Never.
    They are still owned by Rolex


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    Absolutely, they are under the same corporate umbrella. But the difference is for example the Black Bay Heritage Chronograph has a Brietling movement in it, and Rolex would rather chew broken glass than stick someone else's movement in one of their watches.

    I bet they sit at different tables at the Christmas do as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFB Scotland View Post
    Thanks guys for all the suggestions. A FOIS should be with me by Wednesday :)
    Tidy.

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    Chronos -suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by WillHarris2306 View Post
    Absolutely, they are under the same corporate umbrella. But the difference is for example the Black Bay Heritage Chronograph has a Brietling movement in it, and Rolex would rather chew broken glass than stick someone else's movement in one of their watches.

    I bet they sit at different tables at the Christmas do as well.
    This was the initial positioning of Tudor as well.
    Oyster Cases exactly the same as their Rolex siblings but off the shelf reliable movements in order to keep the costs down.
    You are referring to the breitling movement used by their chronograph.
    Keep in mind that Rolex didn’t have an in house chronograph movement up to 2000.
    They used valjoux up to 1988 and then zenith up to 2000z that’s when they introduced their in house movement which has been used ever since...


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    Quote Originally Posted by WillHarris2306 View Post
    Absolutely, they are under the same corporate umbrella. But the difference is for example the Black Bay Heritage Chronograph has a Brietling movement in it, and Rolex would rather chew broken glass than stick someone else's movement in one of their watches.

    I bet they sit at different tables at the Christmas do as well.
    Rolex used to outsource movements as much as anyone else back in the day. So did patek, vacheron etc. Etc. It was standard practice before the quartz crisis: you made simple movements in house and outsourced chronographs and other speciality ebauches. The quartz crisis and the change in perception/rebirth of mecanical movements made being in house as important as it is today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimbobIJones View Post
    Rolex used to outsource movements as much as anyone else back in the day. So did patek, vacheron etc. Etc. It was standard practice before the quartz crisis: you made simple movements in house and outsourced chronographs and other speciality ebauches. The quartz crisis and the change in perception/rebirth of mecanical movements made being in house as important as it is today.
    Didn't know that, cheers for the info guys.

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    So as it stands today the case work is the same quality as a rolex but the movement is third party?

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    Chronos -suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by trott3r View Post
    So as it stands today the case work is the same quality as a rolex but the movement is third party?
    Nope.
    This was the case up to around 1998...
    Tudor today make their own in house movements and do notshare the same cases with Rolex. Although equality wise cases are probably on par with Rolex’s counterparts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ar.parask View Post
    Nope.
    This was the case up to around 1998...
    Tudor today make their own in house movements and do notshare the same cases with Rolex. Although equality wise cases are probably on par with Rolex’s counterparts.


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    Out of interest who would you say are their counterparts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ar.parask View Post
    Nope.
    This was the case up to around 1998...
    Tudor today make their own in house movements and do notshare the same cases with Rolex. Although equality wise cases are probably on par with Rolex’s counterparts.


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    Ok thanks for clearing it up.

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