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    Are there any 'small' Grand Seiko's?

    I adore Grand Seiko's but I feel like new ones are a bit big for my taste. Do they produce any smaller size ones (e.g. under 40mm)? Maybe in Japan?

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    There are a few, I recently bought the SBGT241 Quartz 9F 25th Anniversary and that’s 39mm and wears very well.

    See here for a few pics - https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.p...-a-mini-review

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    I think some of the simpler 3 handers are smaller, 37mm in some cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosumi View Post
    I adore Grand Seiko's but I feel like new ones are a bit big for my taste. Do they produce any smaller size ones (e.g. under 40mm)? Maybe in Japan?
    There are plenty under 40mm, fewer under 38mm. I really like the SBGR051 and 53, automatic, 37mm (the latest versions I think SBGR251/3). Quite a few designed around the same 39.5mm case design, including GMT and three handers. The new VFA's also 39.5mm. Plenty of quartz options too. Probably easiest to browse the GS websites, international and domestic and some of the UK dealers like Jura who list dimensions under specs.

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    Was looking over their site recently and agree the sports models are all massive, if not in diameter then in height. Their smarter watches do come in smaller sizes but I prefer their sports lines. All too big for my taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mondie View Post
    I think some of the simpler 3 handers are smaller, 37mm in some cases.
    SBGR001?


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    Thats it, lovely but too small for me. Hopefully its what the OP is looking for. I am a big GS fanboy

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    One that I really fancy is the SbGW235, a 37mm manual wind.


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    My former SBGX009, 36mm, quartz and very unfussy.




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    The automatics are 37mm, like my sbgr053, my favourite watch. Perfect size.

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    I think you’ll struggle if you want Spring Drive though... they all tend to be bigger.

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    All the quartz models are at or below 40mm, I think. The biggest are the 44GS cases (e.g. SBGV005) and these are 40mm. I'm pretty sure the whole SBGX range is 37mm or below.
    I don't think the height on any of them is above 11mm so they wear extremely comfortably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeBird View Post
    I think you’ll struggle if you want Spring Drive though... they all tend to be bigger.
    The 44gs Spring Drive are the smallest cases currently available, at 40mm with a shorter lug to lug. Not small by any means though.

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    I have two 37mm Grand Seiko's from their historical collection, the automatic Sbgr095 and the quartz sbgv011. Both are stunning and wear a tad larger, more like 38 or 39mm.

    I would love a Spring Drive if they were 37-39mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindforge View Post
    The 44gs Spring Drive are the smallest cases currently available, at 40mm with a shorter lug to lug. Not small by any means though.
    The shame is I prefer the case shape of the larger models. Would love a Snowflake, but tried it on a couple of times and think it’s just too big. ☹️

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    Thanks for all answers.
    Quote Originally Posted by quietly View Post
    SBGR001?

    This looks very much my taste if it is 37mm. Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindforge View Post
    The automatics are 37mm, like my sbgr053, my favourite watch. Perfect size.
    This is also awesome. It looks bigger. Nice to see there are a few 37mm options there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeBird View Post
    The shame is I prefer the case shape of the larger models. Would love a Snowflake, but tried it on a couple of times and think it’s just too big.
    The sbgr053 I posted above has a very similar case shape to the Snowflake, although the Snowflake lugs curve more sharply downwards. I know what you mean but I'm managing with the Snowflake at the moment, it's worth it for the dial!

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    Mine - the SBGW033 - is a whisker under 36mm. Perfect.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket Man View Post
    I have two 37mm Grand Seiko's from their historical collection, the automatic Sbgr095 and the quartz sbgv011. Both are stunning and wear a tad larger, more like 38 or 39mm.

    I would love a Spring Drive if they were 37-39mm.

    39mm Spring Drives exist,



    And I think this is 39mm - but not a Spring Drive

    Last edited by quietly; 19th August 2018 at 20:46.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Mine - the SBGW033 - is a whisker under 36mm. Perfect.

    Very nice. Is this 36000 bph? Also, is this a new/recent model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kosumi View Post
    Very nice. Is this 36000 bph? Also, is this a new/recent model?
    I think it's 28,800 bph, actually. No, not new - from memory it was released around 2011, and almost impossible to get hold of now.

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    Thanks for the info. It is very nice, enjoy wearing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuno1 View Post
    Was looking over their site recently and agree the sports models are all massive, if not in diameter then in height. Their smarter watches do come in smaller sizes but I prefer their sports lines. All too big for my taste.
    I prefer the less sporty offerings, but still find the height excessive, to the extent that I’m going to stick with the SBGX (quartz) and/or SBGW (manual) on future planned purchases to keep case sizes as low as possible.

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    Here is a 37mm quartz, 061, on the wrist of a small woman.and on my seven and a half inch wrist.
    By comparison, here's the GS 'next size up'....39mm. unless you take the now unavailable 253 manual wind, at 38mm.

    In practice, the quartz 37mm series are the smallest available. They are about as small as most men would wear; in comparison the typical GS 'sports' models are about 44mm. I agree they're too big.

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    [QUOTE=quietly;4859612]39mm Spring Drives exist,



    Wow I love that GMT! Never seen that model before, do you have the reference?

    I remember there was a 39mm titanium spring drive available a few years ago.

    I don't think there are any 39mm models currently available though.

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    [QUOTE=Rocket Man;4859850]
    Quote Originally Posted by quietly View Post
    39mm Spring Drives exist,



    Wow I love that GMT! Never seen that model before, do you have the reference?

    I remember there was a 39mm titanium spring drive available a few years ago.

    I don't think there are any 39mm models currently available though.
    I think that's the SBGE013. Stainless steel. Not sure if there is a titanium 39mm spring drive GMT.

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    Rather than start a new thread:

    https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/se...chi-2-in-depth

    This is a grand Seiko but in a custom credor case? Will (as claimed by seller) Seiko do that?

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    Yes there is,


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alansmithee View Post
    Rather than start a new thread:

    https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/se...chi-2-in-depth

    This is a grand Seiko but in a custom credor case? Will (as claimed by seller) Seiko do that?
    I don't know, but they have now released a gold cased version at a slightly lower price, so for us mere mortals the hope is that eventually there will be a steel cased version. I've seen this watch at the London Seiko boutique and it's incredible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.L View Post
    Yes there is,

    Hahaha I liked that photo thanks! I have e very similar KS. I don't think this GS is a recent model, is it?

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    I recently got one for the high beat GMT's, they are 40mm and the 44GS case. I've got slim wrists and it fits me nicely. The lugs are quite short, and the dial is not huge despite it being an all dial style. The 44GS case gives it a little more bulk. The main issue fit wise is the height that makes the whole watch a bit top balanced.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mindforge View Post
    I don't know, but they have now released a gold cased version at a slightly lower price, so for us mere mortals the hope is that eventually there will be a steel cased version. I've seen this watch at the London Seiko boutique and it's incredible.
    Oops wrong link - I meant this:

    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F223087350576

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    Quote Originally Posted by china View Post
    I recently got one for the high beat GMT's, they are 40mm and the 44GS case. I've got slim wrists and it fits me nicely. The lugs are quite short, and the dial is not huge despite it being an all dial style. The 44GS case gives it a little more bulk. The main issue fit wise is the height that makes the whole watch a bit top balanced.

    Looks fantastic and I agree it wears well due to the lugs. The Spring Drives in the same case are quite a bit thinner at 12.5mm.

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    [QUOTE=Rocket Man;4859850]
    Quote Originally Posted by quietly View Post
    39mm Spring Drives exist,



    Wow I love that GMT! Never seen that model before, do you have the reference?

    I remember there was a 39mm titanium spring drive available a few years ago.

    I don't think there are any 39mm models currently available though.
    The SBGA283G and SBGA285G are 39mm and Spring Drive. Not very exciting dial though...
    Last edited by mindforge; 22nd August 2018 at 11:49.

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    Some photos of my 37mm 'Self-Dater'

    Better than a Datejust any day of the week!




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    Nice one. I like the date's background being dark.

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    Here's mine. An SBGX209, 36.5mm diameter.


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