I am waiting for the remake of “In the heat of the night”
With Jacob Rees-Mogg cast in the lead role.
“They call me mr. Mogg”
https://youtu.be/i6n8VyqaCQ4
I am waiting for the remake of “In the heat of the night”
With Jacob Rees-Mogg cast in the lead role.
“They call me mr. Mogg”
https://youtu.be/i6n8VyqaCQ4
FFS, why not give the role to Elton John?
Bet this doesnt even happen.
More press bull with the actor just having a laugh
I think that Elba would be great for the role.
He's cool as you like... and would carry across a "not to be messed with" persona like Luther... if given the role.
Colour is irrelevant. It's fiction and even if he was Scottish in the books... how is that going? Keeping up with THAT? Not so good.
If he was Bond it would probably get me to actually go see it at the cinema.. I just actually see him carrying it off.
If not... then Tom Hardy.
Greg.
I'm not the person to whom you addressed your question, but there's no such thing as a white Idris Elba. He wouldn't actually be Idris if he was white. Would a white man of similar build, mannerisms, age, acting ability, general demeanour make a good Bond? I'm not sure. He'd be better than Roger Moore though, certainly.
You point out, reasonably, that being black is the key point of the Nelson Mandela story (it's arguably the whole point). True, the same racial consideration doesn't apply to Bond in the same critical way, but it is present, in this sense - race is not simply a question of skin colour and features. His experience and his back story would be different, as would his heritage, his culture. While it's true that the Bond of the novels and the early films didn't have the same modern accoutrements as Daniel Craig's 007 these are present to establish the Bond universe in the present day so that a modern audience can relate to it. Changing a key aspect of who he is would be a completely unnecessary departure from the identity of the character.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...snt-black.html
I think that's generally what one would call:
GAME, SET and MATCH
1) Bond is a fictional character. As such he can be whoever the author wants him to be, without any fear of contradictions.
2) The original Bond was white, of mixed Scottish and Swiss heritage. In the books. Fleming’s own experience during and after the war put him in contact of several people who served as inspiration for different characters. All those people are dead.
3) In cinema, Bond has been , in no particular order Scottish, English, Welsh, Australian, English, Irish and English. I may have forgotten one or two ;)
4) Fleming wrote 12 novels. They have all been made into a film, one of them twice.
5) Since then, many authors have created new Bond stories.
6) The continuity streak from one Bond to the other is a recent phenomenon, that appeared with Craig (although Jaws appeared twice). It can disappear just as easily.
7) There is merit in thinking that the40 yo generation that served in a Royal Navy before joining MI6 nowadays reflects at least partially the diverse heritage of the British population
8) There can only be 9 “00” at MI6. It is therefore perfectly acceptable to justify different characters playing the part of 007. Their name can be seen as a homage to the first one, almost 79 years ago.
In conclusion there is nothing that could possibly prevent Bond from being whoever the author wants, whether Black or Asian, Female, gay...
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Who knows. They may even have a female playing "M" soon.
Last edited by Reeny; 15th August 2018 at 10:18. Reason: picture added
If the producers/directors or whoever want Idris as the next bond because they believe him to be the best man for the job, then fine. If they are picking him based on his colour then it’s a mistake.
The idea that Bond could be portrayed by a black man is regarded as ludicrous by some, but do they think the same of Jesus being portrayed as a white man?
Oh wait...
R
Ignorance breeds Fear. Fear breeds Hatred. Hatred breeds Ignorance. Break the chain.
I like Daniel Craig as bond. Same as I liked Sean Connery
I’ve never read Flemings books. For me in my own mind bond is a white man.
Was he a white bloke in the books ?
Can you see Jesus portrayed as an Eskimo, Japanese, native America, South Americs Inca? Hmm perhaps not. So does that put you into the same category as above?
But what would you say if Franklin (from Peanuts) or Axel Folly were recast with white faces. Outraged or don't care.
If outraged then you should at sympathise with the views of others. If you are in the don't care category (which is were i sit), then just chill and watch the Internet and media eat itself again.
Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
Friedrich Nietzsche
R
Ignorance breeds Fear. Fear breeds Hatred. Hatred breeds Ignorance. Break the chain.
Little known facts.
Roger Moore served in the British Army and achieved the rank of Captain.
Sean Connery was in the Royal Navy before getting a medical discharge.
Flemings wife Ann had an affair with Hugh Gaitskill (Leader of the Labour Party)
Goldeneye was the name of a real operation headed up by Fleming to create an intelligence network in Spain. It was also the name of his house.
I wonder what Flemings preference would have been? Perhaps the clue is on the dust jackets.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ja...ilXYjSt9JmEfM:
Whoever does not know how to hit the nail on the head should be asked not to hit it at all.
Friedrich Nietzsche
If you want to stay that true to Fleming maybe the franchise should have ended with him. But it hasn't , it's carried on moved with the times, as should the characters.
There's nothing that could prevent Bond being set on Mars, in the future, as a musical, and played by Joanna Lumley. But then it's no longer what we know as Bond. Just because it's fiction doesn't mean that the thread being played out in the previous films shouldn't continue.
Either way, I like Idris, and I like Bond so I'll go and see it. However Cillian Murphy would still top my list. I'd also like to see it being set in the 50's.
The idea of keeping it in the 50s is undoubtedly attractive.
However the Q gadgets would fall completely flat and remove one of the distinctive features of a Bond film.
Furthermore the public’s insufficient knowledge of those times, and more specifically the Bond films audiences’, would make any film difficult to contextualise.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
I've no idea what the natives of Flanders would have as their preferences, but Fleming's preference would be highly unlikely to have a black man as a hero.
R
Ignorance breeds Fear. Fear breeds Hatred. Hatred breeds Ignorance. Break the chain.
The recent Man from UNCLE film was set in the 60s, and that did OK.
It's escapism - can be whatever they want.
It will stand or fall on what the finished product is and how it's received.
When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........
I can't see them choosing Idris (45 years old) due to his age, the last 3 actors - T.Dalton (41), P.Brosnan (41), D.Craig (38) became Bond at a younger age.
Also would they want someone so busy - Idrissa Akuna Elba OBE is an English actor, producer, musician and DJ according to Wikipedia.
My money would be on T.Hardy (40) or T.Hiddleston (37).
Is this not just clever marketing?
Female Dr Who, I guess will draw more of an audience than the last incumbent (I quite like her in other roles).
Potentially a black Bond, although contrary to the initial characterisation will draw more comment and revenue.
Of course if both are miserable in the role the experiment fails.
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I'd love the see a Bond film set in the '50's true to the original books.
Trouble being many modern lovers of car chases, explosions etc would possibly find it a bit dull.
The exotic locations and gadgets that once seemed so unobtainable are also easily accessed/visited by Joe Bloggs nowadays.
Hardy looks too chunky for Bond. Hiddleston too boyish.