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    A Star Wars question.

    Hi,

    I notice the original film is on telly tomorrow. It's the only one in the series I have watched, back in the 80s.

    I have been meaning to check out the rest of the series for a while.

    Should I start with the original ones and watch in order of release or start with episode 1 ? ( sounds like a stupid question when I read it back !)

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    Not a stupid question at all.

    Personally I would start with the original ep4

    My recommended order

    4
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    6
    1
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    3
    7
    8

    Rogue one is worth a watch after 7 as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalet View Post
    Not a stupid question at all.

    Personally I would start with the original ep4

    My recommended order

    4
    5
    6
    1
    2
    3
    7
    8

    Rogue one is worth a watch after 7 as well.
    This ^^^

    I’d watch them this way as this is how we saw them originally. I still think Star Wars was incredible for a film made in 1977.

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    I disagree.

    I think there are some low points in the films, but many of them are near perfect. I am a massive fan, and I think this qualifies me to say:

    1, then 2, then 3, etc etc

    You should now see them in the chronological order, even if they were made higgledypiggledy.

    Anakin, Ben Kenobi, Vader, Luke, Leia, etc etc they have and order and family history, so that's how they'll make sense.

    Also: write on a bit of card the following, and refer to during your marathon:

    The Phantom Menace 1999
    Attack of the Clones 2002
    Revenge of the Sith 2005
    A New Hope 1977
    The Empire Strikes Back 1980
    Return of the Jedi 1983
    The Force Awakens 2015
    The Last Jedi 2017

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    I’d watch them in part order now - it should make more sense of the saga overall. You just have to accept the modern CGI is better than the originals, but it’s still impressive.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    The 'Machete' order -

    1: A New Hope
    2: The Empire Strikes Back
    3: Attack of the Clones
    4: Revenge of the Sith
    5:Return of the Jedi
    6:The Force Awakens

    You can read why here and here but it does contain spoilers.

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    I disagree with the part order brigade. The reason for this is because there are two important plot twists in Empire that are completely spoilt by watching them in 'chronological' order...(obviously not mentioned so as not to spoil it for the OP)
    I definitely think you should watch them as made i.e IV,V,VI,I,II,III,VII,VIII and make sure you watch the original versions rather than the versions George Lucas tinkered with later. It's not a perfect order but I think it's important to experience the original trilogy as was. Leave Rogue 1 and Solo till after watching them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynam0humm View Post
    The 'Machete' order -

    1: A New Hope
    2: The Empire Strikes Back
    3: Attack of the Clones
    4: Revenge of the Sith
    5:Return of the Jedi
    6:The Force Awakens

    You can read why here and here but it does contain spoilers.
    Definitely this, it also removes most of jar jar thankfully

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuisance Value View Post
    Definitely this, it also removes most of jar jar thankfully

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    Totally agree, but watch Rouge One to start with, as it's the genesis to the attack of the Death Star - whoops spoiler alert

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyg View Post
    Totally agree, but watch Rouge One to start with, as it's the genesis to the attack of the Death Star - whoops spoiler alert
    Oh aye good point, definitely do this. I really enjoyed Rogue One, and it is a good intro..

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    Quote Originally Posted by village View Post
    I disagree with the part order brigade. The reason for this is because there are two important plot twists in Empire that are completely spoilt by watching them in 'chronological' order...(obviously not mentioned so as not to spoil it for the OP)
    Fully agree with this!

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    Watch them in the order they were released, only sensible way imo


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalet View Post
    Not a stupid question at all.

    Personally I would start with the original ep4

    My recommended order

    4
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    1
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    7
    8

    Rogue one is worth a watch after 7 as well.
    I'd recommend this apart from just stopping at 6..... ;-)

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    It’s also worth watching The Clone Wars animated series which sits between Ep 2 and 3. This is every bit as good as the best movies. Rebels is good too. That sits between Ep 3 and 4, just before Rogue One.

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    A Star Wars question.

    I’d watch them in the order of year they were released as intended .

    It’s like watching godfather 3 first or jaws 4 . All spoilt . I watched John wick 2 first :( I’ll never get over that


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    I’d watch them in release order tbh. Also a massive fan - might be worth watching Rogue One first which is a brilliant film imho. I’d totally avoid ‘The Last Jedi’ which I found incredibly disappointing. There’s just so much wrong with it on every level, do t get me started!.............


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    Quote Originally Posted by bond View Post
    I watched John wick 2 first :( I’ll never get over that
    Sadly, I never got round to watching John Wick 2...........I died and went to heaven watching the 1st one.
    How it managed a 7.3 on IMDB, I'll never know.

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    Both Johns Wicks are great fun, anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong!


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    Quote Originally Posted by zanderpants View Post
    Both Johns Wicks are great fun, anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong!
    I guess "fun" can be experienced in different ways then ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    I guess "fun" can be experienced in different ways then ??
    Or maybe some people are just plain wrong!


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    I love the machete order. That gets my vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zanderpants View Post
    Or maybe some people are just plain wrong!
    Perhaps so, I hear this particular affliction is common around Chippenham(ish) but I could be wrong although I doubt it....

    If you wanna bite of my a$$, get over the Bear Pit and I'll bite you back.

    PS. Have you been drinking again ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    Perhaps so, I hear this particular affliction is common around Chippenham(ish) but I could be wrong although I doubt it....

    If you wanna bite of my a$$, get over the Bear Pit and I'll bite you back.

    PS. Have you been drinking again ?
    Just joking mate, but you’ve scared me now so I’ll be quiet......


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    Quote Originally Posted by zanderpants View Post
    Just joking mate, but you’ve scared me now so I’ll be quiet......



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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post


    I was joking about the other bit as well, your joke radar seems a little off today! Or is it always off a bit??


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    Quote Originally Posted by zanderpants View Post
    I was joking about the other bit as well, your joke radar seems a little off today! Or is it always off a bit??
    Whilst trying not to de-rail this thread too much, I had a slight peep over my shoulder and saw that you've had a little pop at me before which I really hadn't paid any attention to at all...
    However, I'm now beginning to wonder if you're developing what appears to be the start of some kind of fascination with me ??

    Don't spoil it for yourself will you, I'm really not worth it son and I'm married too....

    Have a nice day now, run along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    Whilst trying not to de-rail this thread too much, I had a slight peep over my shoulder and saw that you've had a little pop at me before which I really hadn't paid any attention to at all...
    However, I'm now beginning to wonder if you're developing what appears to be the start of some kind of fascination with me ??

    Don't spoil it for yourself will you, I'm really not worth it son and I'm married too....

    Have a nice day now, run along.
    Not sure any of the above is true and it’s frankly a little odd, you do seem to be quick to aggression though. Are you angry in real life or just behind a keyboard?


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    Quote Originally Posted by zanderpants View Post
    Not sure any of the above is true and it’s frankly a little odd, you do seem to be quick to aggression though. Are you angry in real life or just behind a keyboard?
    No, frankly, I'm angry in real life too...

    How is my personal view on a film considered aggressive ?

    Are you naturally sarcastic in real life or just when you're behind a keyboard ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    No, frankly, I'm angry in real life too...

    How is my personal view on a film considered aggressive ?

    Are you naturally sarcastic in real life or just when you're behind a keyboard ?
    I am talking about everything you have written since then. Read it though and tell me it’s not aggressive both in tone and language. I cannot imagine I am the first person to mention this over the years.

    Sarcasm is a useful tool against bully’s I find.

    I will back out of this now and leave you to it, last thing I want to do is get into a virtual argument with someone. I am sure we both have better things to do. Sorry to the OP, I rarely get caught up in forum shenanigans!


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    Quote Originally Posted by zanderpants View Post
    Both Johns Wicks are great fun, anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong!
    Looking back up to post #18, I think you can see where this might have originated ???
    A difference of opinion doesn't have to be met with a challenge and a snotty comment.

    Good day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by village View Post
    I disagree with the part order brigade. The reason for this is because there are two important plot twists in Empire that are completely spoilt by watching them in 'chronological' order...(obviously not mentioned so as not to spoil it for the OP)
    I definitely think you should watch them as made i.e IV,V,VI,I,II,III,VII,VIII and make sure you watch the original versions rather than the versions George Lucas tinkered with later. It's not a perfect order but I think it's important to experience the original trilogy as was. Leave Rogue 1 and Solo till after watching them all.
    Agreed. The plot twists that made the Empire Strikes Back probably the best of all the films would be completely ruined by watching the (dreadful) prequels first.
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    Save your sanity and watch them starting with the Phantom Edit... seriously google it.


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    I'd go for updated machete

    Rogue one
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    Unsure where to stick Solo

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    These aren't the movies your looking for.

    As a kid the first couple were good, but the recent (The Phantom Menace onwards) efforts have been dire in the extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethos View Post
    Fully agree with this!
    This!
    Also I'd suggest Rogue One before episode IV - they tie one really nicely.

    The Machete order is a good shout in that it looks at episode's II & III as more of a "filling in some blanks flash-back".

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    Seriously soend your time watching good movies.

    Rogue One
    Star Wars
    The Empire Strikes Back

    Ignore the rest , I struggle to stay with any of the others longer than 30 minutes. Even as a kid I walked out of Return of the Jedi feeling a bit cheated.

    I’d rather watch Star Trek : TMP and Wrath of Khan than any of the other Star Wars movies. Even the rebooted treks are better.

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    Stick with the release order. I did the same way with my kids. It’s how we have all seen them so easier to discuss. Also the newer ones have better graphics. Watching those first and then moving to the older ones makes them look unnecessarily old (especially for recent generations).

    The argument about the ending of ROTJ doesn’t hold if you watch proper versions. I found the Despecialised versions which are basically the old movies, as they were in the theatre (no extra edits) in the best quality possible taken from various sources.

    So watch it like we did :-)




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    Release order and maybe stop at the second?

    The films are good fun and there are some excellent special effects, but even as a teenager, I felt it wane after the frankly stunning first film.

    My son is 21 and loved the more recent films. I saw them, except Solo so far.

    Technically they blow the originals away, but like so many modern films, they lack characters you care about and interesting plot development.

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    You coulg always seek out "The Phantom Edit" which is episode 1 with JarJar Binks removed. Or there are other fan edits, such as "Fear, Anger, Hate", which is episodes 1-3 condensed into a single film (with all the crap bits removed).



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    Definitely don't watch the prequels (first) as they spoil all the mystery of the original trilogy.

    I'd even put off Rogue One as Vader is as hard as effing nails in his cameo and it makes the original Vader a bit weedy and ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogthrob View Post
    You coulg always seek out "The Phantom Edit" which is episode 1 with JarJar Binks removed. Or there are other fan edits, such as "Fear, Anger, Hate", which is episodes 1-3 condensed into a single film (with all the crap bits removed).


    That sounds ideal! What's the quality of the video and sound like?

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    What's the consensus of the best bluray versions to buy of the films? Although I assume a 4k version will be on its way at some point?

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    A think it's vital to set the scene with this first....

    https://youtu.be/MpfmzfRf8UI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artistmike View Post
    A think it's vital to set the scene with this first....

    https://youtu.be/MpfmzfRf8UI
    Still one of the funniest things I have seen, the guys a bloody genius!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mindforge View Post
    What's the consensus of the best bluray versions to buy of the films? Although I assume a 4k version will be on its way at some point?
    The Despecialized Editions by Harmy are the best versions IMO

    As close to the theatrical release as you can get & all the better for it, no weird add-ons, no weird music or voices & most importantly no Hayden Christensen at the end of ROTJ, they even have the original opening crawl at the beginning of SW

    I've got the complete Bluray set of the 6 films & the extras are good, colour is a bit off though, but they are still the messed with versions that GL thinks are OK & I'm going to say it again, Hayden Christensen at the end of ROTJ, why George why???

    This is wrong:



    This is right

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    Will there be restored 4k versions with Atmos etc. at some point do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mindforge View Post
    Will there be restored 4k versions with Atmos etc. at some point do you think?
    Let's think, a chance to further milk the most lucrative film franchise in history..... Will it be taken?

    I'd say it's surer than a shoe advert on sc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefmcd View Post
    Let's think, a chance to further milk the most lucrative film franchise in history..... Will it be taken?

    I'd say it's surer than a shoe advert on sc.
    That's what I was hoping, size 7 of course. Question is whether I can hold out until the inevitable release... Also Disney have a pretty poor track record on quality of video and audio.

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    It's only a question of when. I've little doubt Lucas will supervise it himself. It'll look glorious.

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