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    Bug bears on watches.

    Mine is a date wheel colour (usually white) that doesn’t match the dial. Not many brands have a matching date wheel colour, which to my eyes is a cleaner look.

    The other is different lume colours on the minute hand and 12pip compared to the hours and indices. Omega take note!

    Both have stopped me buying otherwise great watches.

    Anyone else?


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    too many to list, but here are couple.

    - arrow hands. I hate them, period.
    - hands with flat ends. It is wrong, hand should have a sharp end, not flat end covering two minute markers at any time
    - fancy types of time display - regulator and sector dials.
    - too thick watches
    - too small movements for the case, bringing all subdials to the center.

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    Day/date wheel non-matching, as you have said!

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    In order :-

    Dates

    Dates @ 4 square

    Dates @ 4 round

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaEchoAlpha View Post
    Day/date wheel non-matching, as you have said!
    I used to think so too, but now I find that a contrasting colour date looks better in many cases. And I'd far rather have a plain white background than a close-but-not-quite match to the dial colour.

    And then there's Rolex's lovely vintage brushed-silver date wheels with their open sixes and nines, which — rather than trying to hide the date display — make a beautiful feature out of it.

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    Here are a couple of mine.
    1) Roman Numerals
    2) HEV which is not flush to the case

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    Strangely enough, tang buckles
    Dates at 4:30
    No micro adjustment of any description

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    Cyclopes/Cyclopses? , only just got brave enough to remove them and much happier without

    Also cases that only take manufacturer specific straps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belligero View Post
    I used to think so too, but now I find that a contrasting colour date looks better in many cases. And I'd far rather have a plain white background than a close-but-not-quite match to the dial colour.

    And then there's Rolex's lovely vintage brushed-silver date wheels with their open sixes and nines, which — rather than trying to hide the date display — make a beautiful feature out of it.
    I guess it's probably due to the fact I'm just not that fussed about date windows at all, so I'd rather have one which blends with the dial better. I dislike the way they ruin the symmetry, why on earth Longines ruined the LLD (for example) with a date window I'll never know!

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    All 31 days displayed around the dial;
    open date windows with more than the current date displayed;
    sub dials that cut through dial numerals;
    low WR for no reason; and

    things like U-Boat, CW, Wellington or Raymond on the dial ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaEchoAlpha View Post
    I guess it's probably due to the fact I'm just not that fussed about date windows at all, so I'd rather have one which blends with the dial better. I dislike the way they ruin the symmetry, why on earth Longines ruined the LLD (for example) with a date window I'll never know!
    They didn’t ruin it, they provided the choice of either.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    I still shudder when I recall the first time I took sight of the fresh hell that was a California dial . . .





    ;-)
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    Roman numerals


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    Odd lug widths
    Roman numerals
    Unnecessarily large case diameters (dress watches over 40mm)
    AR coating on the top surface of the crystal
    Day complication
    Open heart
    Anything with nonsensical made-up case material names when it's just steel

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    All shades of faux lume. And green, come to think of it. In fact I think I only like pure white or genuinely aged lume.

    Dates at 4 or 4.30

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    All twelve numbers on the dial in various different sizes, and not fond of cathedral hands.

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    The word Bremont printed anywhere on a watch.

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    Where the date is cut out with no border or shape (makes it look like an afterthought)

    Date at odd angles like at 4 (again, makes it look like an afterthought)

    Oversized watches, too many classic watches ruined by being reissued in a huge case.

    Brands that change their name/logo every other year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegamanic View Post
    They didn’t ruin it, they provided the choice of either.
    Find me a no date LLD in as-new condition for the RRP of a new date version then! It's bleddy extortion what a no-date example commands now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    I still shudder when I recall the first time I took sight of the fresh hell that was a California dial . . .





    ;-)
    I'm totally with you on that one, I suppose it has some charming back story or other, but I'm so ambivalent to it, I cannot even be bothered to educate myself on the origins!

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    Funny, some of the bugbears above I like. What I really don’t like: over-thick watches (particularly when their forbears in the range were thinner), ceramic dials, multiple fonts, too wide bracelets at the fastener (>16mm); Explorers on straps; fake aged lume; anything > 41mm that isn’t a G-Shock.

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    Thought I'm being too picky...

    1. Fashion watches;
    2. Poor legibility;
    3. Disproportion of all kinds; and
    4. Mismatching lume colors on the dial, hands or a pip.

    Date wheel color match is desirable but not mandatory.

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    End links that don't match the design or curvature of the lugs. Making it look like the bracelet could have belonged to a different watch.

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    Short natos.


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    As another has said I like many of the above. I particularly like the different lume colours in many newer submersible Panerais. I like a california dial, although i dont own one. And I love a date window at 4.30.
    However not keen on skeleton dials.

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    Dates. Especially on dive watches.

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    Numbers that get cut off by other dial elements.


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    Revealed dates *ugh. *Shudder*
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    As others have said, dates at 4:30, especially those that are angled. Stupid design

    And expensive 5513s and 1016s annoy me. If they were considerably cheaper I’d buy a couple!

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    Cyclops. Aaarrrgghhhh!


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    A full Arabic (e.g. Military style) dial - fine for kids who are learning to tell the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbains0708 View Post
    Roman numerals
    Yep, who hates Roman numerals I for one..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegamanic View Post
    All 31 days displayed around the dial;
    open date windows with more than the current date displayed;
    sub dials that cut through dial numerals;
    low WR for no reason; and

    things like U-Boat, CW, Wellington or Raymond on the dial ;)

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    They didn’t ruin it, they provided the choice of either.
    And then took away that choice. No matter, the ludicrous lug to lug makes it unwearable for me!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Cyclops. Aaarrrgghhhh!


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    Great impression there Ryan.
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vulcangascompany View Post
    Yep, who hates Roman numerals I for one..
    Titter

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    A current bugbear is stock bracelets (straps too for that matter) that I can't get comfy.
    I've been spoilt by a recent Seiko 009 on a rattly pressed metal jubilee which is the best fitting most comfortable bracelet watch I've worn since I don't know when.

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    A current bugbear is stock bracelets (straps too for that matter) that I can't get comfy.
    I've been spoilt by a recent Seiko 009 on a rattly pressed metal jubilee which is the best fitting most comfortable bracelet watch I've worn since I don't know when.
    Gray

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    Stupid lug widths, like the Oriwnt Bambino range being 19mm - murder getting a decent strap.

    Mercedes hands. Can't explain why but I'm just not a fan.

    Watches with uneccesarily long lug lengths. To me this is a more important dimension than case width. I have a 6.75" wrist, which I thought was fairly slender. But the sheer amount of people I read or see saying that have 6.5-6.75" wrist and bemoaning their skinny wrists makes me think actually that isn't skinny at all, just pretty normal. It's modern watch sizes that are too big.

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    Roman numerals....why?? As for the California dial with mixed arabic and roman numerals, words fail me!
    Also skinny little hands - I know they are supposed to be elegant, but I find them annoying!
    Not sure why Cylops' annoy people - they do actually have a useful function (make the date easier to see) and they do actually work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrGrumpy View Post
    Roman numerals....why?? As for the California dial with mixed arabic and roman numerals, words fail me!
    Also skinny little hands - I know they are supposed to be elegant, but I find them annoying!
    Not sure why Cylops' annoy people - they do actually have a useful function (make the date easier to see) and they do actually work.
    often because, like annoying rider tabs, they get greasy and grimey around the edges...
    Gray

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    I'm not a fan of Roman numerals and I have yet to like a watch with a cyclops.

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    Skeleton hands on a dive watch.

    Omega please note.

    People who buy a watch with a cyclops then pay good money to have it removed.
    I'm just a very naughty boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidj54 View Post
    Stupid lug widths, like the Oriwnt Bambino range being 19mm - murder getting a decent strap.

    Mercedes hands. Can't explain why but I'm just not a fan.

    Watches with uneccesarily long lug lengths. To me this is a more important dimension than case width. I have a 6.75" wrist, which I thought was fairly slender. But the sheer amount of people I read or see saying that have 6.5-6.75" wrist and bemoaning their skinny wrists makes me think actually that isn't skinny at all, just pretty normal. It's modern watch sizes that are too big.
    Actually..

    Bambino is 21 mm..

    Even worse to find a decent strap.

    .

    Erm..

    Some "iconic design elements" like screws and knobs and knurls and tumors recycled over and over and over again in all sizes.. (khough APRO khough)


    There, I said it.


    Heritage schmeritage editions or "Lets take advantage of Vintage hype and make a reissue... But modern.. And bigger... And with fake lume.."
    Every frikkin time it results in unwearable watch. See.. When original was made in 50/60/70ies it had really long elegant lugs on 37 mm case...

    When on 40+ case they are not elegant... Just long and unwearable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobbob View Post
    I have yet to like a watch with a cyclops.
    I used to think so too, but now it’s pretty much a case of not liking a watch without a Cyclops. ;)

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    Mixing Arabic and roman numerals - just why?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    I still shudder when I recall the first time I took sight of the fresh hell that was a California dial . . .
    I had to Google it. Oh dear, I'll probably have nightmares tonight.

    That really is not nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornholio View Post
    I had to Google it. Oh dear, I'll probably have nightmares tonight.

    That really is not nice.
    There have been plenty of WTBs for them - but not for me.

    Like many others:

    Numbers cropped by sub dials

    Sub dials the same colour as the hands so you can't see the hands as they pass over the sub dials

    Watch makers who feel the need to fill the dial completely - Brietling springs to mind

    Hublot - full stop

    Cyclops

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    Deployant clasps.
    Always bloody uncomfortable imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verv View Post
    Deployant clasps.
    Always bloody uncomfortable imo.
    Agreed, I haven’t found one where the curve fits the back of my wrist, same with butterfly clasps

    The closest was a Zenith Chronomaster on the bracelet, but it still had to go

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