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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeColdplayHistory View Post
    Looks a nice route - I might have to give it (or something similar) a go. Is my memory right that there's another road from the W of Lake Vyrnwy that does more directly to Bala?
    Not sure which road you are thinking of. The one I've enjoyed in the past is the B4391 from Penybontfawr. It's also a mountain road - although a proper two lane with a decent surface. See red arrow below.


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    Or maybe you are thinking of this one...



    Never tried it, but it's almost certain to be a good one up there.

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    I did this just before covid hit.

    On a road bike with full Givi boxes,tank bag and tail bag,with BT023 tyres,I went slow and found it hard work and wearying.
    As I was solo and only saw about 5 vehicles the whole dirt section it was a bit scary,a few times I was close to dropping it.

    The Kiwis take it much morere lighthearted.
    I am so glad I did it before it gets tarmac put down.

    On a Adventure bike with road/poor tyres it would have been as hard I reckon,its all about grip.





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    Quote Originally Posted by downer View Post
    Or maybe you are thinking of this one...



    Never tried it, but it's almost certain to be a good one up there.
    That's the fella.
    I think we went that way (more than 25) years ago in a rally hire car when we were camping nr. Bala
    I remember:
    • it being mainly single track with passing places
    • being shouted at a lot - the now Mrs MCH was only recently arrived from Holland at the time and they don't have many roads like that there

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    in other news i just saw these and thought some ppl here might be interested

    https://www.visordown.com/news/produ...fLam-oiw2pyVxk

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    Quote Originally Posted by downer View Post
    Had a lovely morning out on my oversized, completely unnecessary "Adventure" bike. About 150 miles in total - a good mix of fast A roads, smaller B roads, single track lanes and a paved mountain pass. Rode up to Oswestry, then via the small roads to Lake Vyrnwy and finally over the mountain down to the A470.





    Of course it would be possible (easily) to do this on a pure road bike, but for me, the GS (or my Multistrada) is ideal due to it's easy manoeuvrability, excellent view (over hedges etc) and general comfort. Also good to feel confident when its necessary to hop on to the grass verge to avoid oncoming tractors etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pugster View Post
    in other news i just saw these and thought some ppl here might be interested

    https://www.visordown.com/news/produ...fLam-oiw2pyVxk

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugster View Post
    in other news i just saw these and thought some ppl here might be interested

    https://www.visordown.com/news/produ...fLam-oiw2pyVxk
    How many can you stack?

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    Aprilia have just revealed their 660 Tuareg which may be worth looking at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint-Just View Post
    Iíll say this just once, but it needs to be said: I think a dual purpose road/off-road big bike is a bad idea. I know we have a couple of riders here who make it work, and more power to them, but for an off-road novice it will end in expensive tears.

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    Spoilsport.....think of the fun we could have had looking at pictures of mangled GS's

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    Picked my baby GS up today after its had its run in service.
    Had a little sit on this while I was there and I really liked it.



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    New bike day tomorrow, now I am hoping I get a good night sleep

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris2982 View Post
    Picked my baby GS up today after its had its run in service.
    Had a little sit on this while I was there and I really liked it.



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    Pretty much identical to mineÖ.like it very much🙂🐐

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugster View Post
    in other news i just saw these and thought some ppl here might be interested

    https://www.visordown.com/news/produ...fLam-oiw2pyVxk
    Daytona have been doing boots with raised in-soles for ages.
    They're expensive, but don't look stupid.

    I'll stick to my old Verts for the time being

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavham View Post
    New bike day tomorrow, now I am hoping I get a good night sleep
    Ditto.

    The CCM is being delivered tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andy tims View Post
    Ditto.

    The CCM is being delivered tomorrow.
    That a special bike, enjoyÖ

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    For those that like riding in Wales this is a cracking road. Not fast, a single track road, but beautiful. And no, along with others I've no idea how to attach a photo from my PC.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vRSG60 View Post
    And no, along with others I've no idea how to attach a photo from my PC.
    Itís not a difficult concept: your PC is not a part of the internet and therefore you cannot link directly to it.
    The easiest way is to use Tapatalk, as it hosts the images automatically.
    Other than that, you need to use a host (imgur, for example, is free) and paste the link.
    Itís not rocket science
    'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.

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    Rossi to retire at end of season

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp View Post
    Rossi to retire at end of season
    Hardly surprising, he should have done it five or six years ago.

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    That really is the end of an era! So many great races.

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    Calís back for the next three races though.

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    Here she is on the drive





    Only had time for a quick blast in light drizzle this evening, but it's great fun.

    I was sad to see the RR go though. Brilliant bike, very fast, comfortable for a superbike and utterly reliable. Someone's going to get a great bike.
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    ^^ Very nice. Bikes really are becoming works of art these days. Enjoy :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by vRSG60 View Post
    For those that like riding in Wales this is a cracking road. Not fast, a single track road, but beautiful. And no, along with others I've no idea how to attach a photo from my PC.


    Capture7.JPG
    I rode that a couple of weeks ago (have done it a couple of times over the years (painful on an RR but was much easier on a GSA this time). There was a detour in place by the phone box this time which actually took us on an even nicer route through there. If anyone is interested in staying near there, the Y Talbot is a great Inn and very biker friendly (and there are many nice rides in all directions from it ) Personal favorite is the Crossgates to Newtown Road (in both directions)......

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    Hmmm...

    My head is being turned by the Tiger Sport, a far more powerful and somewhat better looking sibling than the 900 range. In fact, it would fit the bill so well that I think it would make a very decent one bike solution.

    Looks like I'll be making a call this morning... spec'd up with the Arrow end can, a centre stand and heated grips it take the price to just over £12k. A low seat isn't included in the configurator, but I know somebody who has the lowering kit and the low seat on his, so I know that both are possible.






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    ^^^ My brother in law has a tiger 1050.
    Really likes it, nice exhaust growl with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOAT View Post
    ^^^ My brother in law has a tiger 1050.
    Really likes it, nice exhaust growl with it.
    Good to know, thanks. Does he have the stock can or the Arrow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Good to know, thanks. Does he have the stock can or the Arrow?
    Just the stock oneÖstill sounds good
    I guess best to buy the arrow from the supplying dealer and ensure itís properly mapped for- would almost certainly affect air flow hence fuelling ( I would think)
    I suppose what Iím saying is donít just assume you can pop on the can at home afterwards

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    The Tiger Sport was discontinued last year. Damn good bikes though, I have one. Great fun to ride, brilliant engine, handle really well, fabulous slow speed manners but loads of grunt to get them shifting, probably the best all-rounder I’ve ever ridden. I had speed triples for years and the tiger is no slower in the real world and a lot more comfortable. The only real bad points I’ve found are the crap seat and the wind noise. Some people complain about the cruise control buttons but I think they’re fine. They are not light and not designed for off road at all. I’ll be keeping mine for a long while though
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    Quote Originally Posted by GOAT View Post
    Just the stock one…still sounds good
    I guess best to buy the arrow from the supplying dealer and ensure it’s properly mapped for- would almost certainly affect air flow hence fuelling ( I would think)
    I suppose what I’m saying is don’t just assume you can pop on the can at home afterwards
    Yes, good point and something I'd ask the right questions about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Groundrush View Post
    The Tiger Sport was discontinued last year. Damn good bikes though, I have one. Great fun to ride, brilliant engine, handle really well, fabulous slow speed manners but loads of grunt to get them shifting, probably the best all-rounder I’ve ever ridden. I had speed triples for years and the tiger is no slower in the real world and a lot more comfortable. The only real bad points I’ve found are the crap seat and the wind noise. Some people complain about the cruise control buttons but I think they’re fine. I’ll be keeping mine for a long while.
    That's helpful, thanks. The bike is still on the configurator and - it seems - can still be ordered. Better get in quick then!
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    I tried a Tiger Sport 1050 before I bought the Multistrada. Lovely engine but the ergonomics didnít suit me so well, and there was a ton of wind noise from the standard screen (although that can probably be remedied with an aftermarket screen).

    There are quite a few lightly used ones available right now.

    I know a guy who rides one - at our local IAM group. He canít be more than 5 ft 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Yes, good point and something I'd ask the right questions about.



    That's helpful, thanks. The bike is still on the configurator and - it seems - can still be ordered. Better get in quick then!
    AFAIK, they are not EU5 compliant, so Iíd be very surprised if you could register a new one now. Could be wrong though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    My head is being turned by the Tiger Sport, a far more powerful and somewhat better looking sibling than the 900 range. In fact, it would fit the bill so well that I think it would make a very decent one bike solution.
    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Then light off-road use (I'd really like to do some green-laning) is quite a big factor...
    Will you still be taking the Tiger Sport off road?
    You're a grown up and can make up your own mind but if you still want a fun bike and a touring bike with off-road capability, I still think you're better off with the TTR+1

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeColdplayHistory View Post
    Will you still be taking the Tiger Sport off road?
    You're a grown up and can make up your own mind but if you still want a fun bike and a touring bike with off-road capability, I still think you're better off with the TTR+1
    No... it would be a lot less nerve-wracking than the TTR on gravelly bits, though.

    *Sigh*... the perennial battle. Heart vs head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeColdplayHistory View Post
    Will you still be taking the Tiger Sport off road ?
    They’re not an off road bike and don’t claim to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groundrush View Post
    Theyíre not an off road bike and donít claim to be.
    I do realise that, of course. But it would make a nice sports tourer option if I can actually get my feet on the ground!

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    I had a Tiger 1050 before the R1200R, and that was the bike I rode 2-up to Naples.

    Lovely bike, but tall and getting it out for use was an "event". The BMW that replaced it was far more manageable, far quicker, braked better and handled better.

    I suspect the Sport was a step up from the original version though (if for no other reason than the button to step through the displays was relocated from the dash to the left cluster)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp View Post
    I had a Tiger 1050 before the R1200R, and that was the bike I rode 2-up to Naples.

    Lovely bike, but tall and getting it out for use was an "event". The BMW that replaced it was far more manageable, far quicker, braked better and handled better.

    I suspect the Sport was a step up from the original version though (if for no other reason than the button to step through the displays was relocated from the dash to the left cluster)
    None of that bodes well. Better not get over-excited about it, then.

    Did you have a low seat on yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    None of that bodes well. Better not get over-excited about it, then.

    Did you have a low seat on yours?
    I didn't; I had the comfort seat. Same height as standard but comfy.

    I'm an awkward bugger that likes to avoid a tight knee bend, so prefer the leg position afforded by a standard seat

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    Iíve just ridden my first Harley!


    The salesman confirmed that the current £28k Harley Livewire will be £14,995 next year as the standalone Livewire 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    Iíve just ridden my first Harley!


    The salesman confirmed that the current £28k Harley Livewire will be £14,995 next year as the standalone Livewire 1.
    Torquey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    The salesman confirmed that the current £28k Harley Livewire will be £14,995 next year as the standalone Livewire 1.
    I suspect there may be a fair few disgruntled early adopters

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    Is it the same model or a downgraded new version that will be 14k?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard View Post
    Is it the same model or a downgraded new version that will be 14k?
    Same motor, same battery, same chassis, same range, same charging times, same running gear, same styling, different colours, different tank badge, different price.

    Livewire 1 looks very much like it's a HD Livewire

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    It is the same bike but with a different badge on the tank.

    The salesmanís slant on it was that HD Livewire buyers are likely to be collectors who will put them away as an investment.

    I hoping Zero and Energica follow suit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    The salesmanís slant on it was that HD Livewire buyers are likely to be collectors who will put them away as an investment.
    Yes, that's definitely a salesman's slant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Torquey?
    I put it into sport mode early on and just left it there. I did put it back into rain mode but it felt so sluggish that I put it straight back.
    Whilst I didnít take it over about 85mph, the torque in the mid range is phenomenal (so all the way through really). Overtaking is almost instantaneous. Thereís plenty of regen so slowing back down after an overtake is quick too.
    I was out on it for about an hour and it took most of that time to get used to it; the engine braking on throttle off is do great that I was stopping way before the junction without using the brakes. Itís something that youíll get used to pretty quickly though.
    I found the suspension very hard and would want to sort that out if I bought one. I didnít like separate indicator switches on either bar but thatís just because all the bikes Iíve ever owned have one indicator switch on the left bar.

    Iím seriously considering one next year when the price is more reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyp View Post
    Yes, that's definitely a salesman's slant.
    Iíd be pretty annoyed if Iíd spent the best part of £30k only to find that if Iíd waited a year I could have bought it for half the price.
    Iím guessing they havenít sold many.

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    5 of us in mid Wales enjoying the yamaha tenere off road experience for 2 days. Obviously riding Tenere 700s
    Great fun!
    Some excellent trails and full on descents.

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