The pillion looks really good. I'm sure you'll get used to the ride though.
That is a beast. What's the turning circle like?
Like the Ever Given but without the grace and subtlety.
Having looked at various videos on Youtube, it's apparent that they can have a very small turning circle in the hands of someone that knows what they are doing.
Of course I'd not quite twigged that it was 10 inches longer than the bike it replaced so closing the garage door last night was a bit of a challenge
I still haven’t admitted to being old enough to ride a Harley, although the Livewire is tempting. But then it’s not a proper Harley is it?
I am being drawn to them more and more but when I see a large group of old men (and women) pretending to be Hell’s Angels, it puts me right off!
2021 Hayabusa Speed Test.
https://fb.watch/4DTpcA0jzT/
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Ignorance breeds Fear. Fear breeds Hatred. Hatred breeds Ignorance. Break the chain.
I agree Dave, I bought one last year (street bob) and while I love it, I won’t dress, wear logo clothing or go on rides with the local Harley club, it’s just not my scene of wanna be HA.
I am trying to find a non brand forum to join to meet other bikers for meet ups. Anyone know any good forums that cover Berkshire or surrounding counties?
"clearly" according to who and what criteria?
Another tester:
Its nearest rivals are the Triumph Street Triple R, the Kawasaki Z900, the BMW F 900 R, the KTM 790 Duke and the Yamaha MT-09. This picture shows all these bikes.
The point being that if you have to look twice the branding is lost.
Lovely day for a bimble around the local hills
When I bought my Street Bob, the first couple of times I rode it I thought every nut and bolt must be loose on the bike!
Then it seemed to just come good and got better and better. Always made me smile when I was riding it. Had faster, more powerful, better handling (hard to believe I know) bikes, but always enjoyed the journey on the Harley more. It's not how fast you get there, it's how you get there. (unless you're on a H2 of course then it's if you get there!)
Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
Lad I know has just sent me a picture of his “ new bike” Kawasaki H2 with a Jorden bikes 235 bhp upgrade. Top speed 225 mph I fear for his life .
“Clearly” according to everyone who’s actually ridden it, as far as I can tell. And also on paper, 18kg less weight, better ergonomics, electronics, frame, everything really, apart perhaps from looks... but to quote Enzo Ferrari, "Race cars are neither ugly nor beautiful. They become beautiful when they win." The same may or may not apply to bikes, there’s a lot to be said for a beautiful bike, but you can’t stare at it lovingly when you’re approaching a fast corner.
On the tester, not sure, but perhaps it’s a trick question in which case KTM Duke 890.
I'm not suggesting it isn't 'improved' over the previous model/s but almost anything could be made to look better on paper with modern tec and materials...
The USP of the Monster, apart from its performance, was its looks.
p.s. I've no skin in this game - I'm not a Monster owner not am I likely to be (if I was in the market for a bike of this size/type I'd probably go for either the KTM 890 Duke R or Kawasaki Z900RS), I'm just curious as I haven't seen an independent review from someone who has actually ridden it - I've looked and haven't found any.
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Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.
I agree with LTF on that one, speaking as a Street Triple owner. The essence of a naked is a sensible riding position and a good spread of torque, instead of a speeding ticket and a trip to the chiropractor. Good handling and good throttle response are certainly also desirable qualities in a naked, and lower weight helps with that. Looks are optional.
PS - @Stanford, I agree that looks were a major selling point for the Monster, and the new one is at best an acquired taste. But on reflection, the frame from a Pinegale V2 and the engine from the supersports 950 is a good recipe and if it’s not as pretty as the old one, I can just about live with that, I like to ride. If I wanted it just to look good, Ducati make prettier bikes than Monsters.
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Well, the legal number plate back is on the bike and I'm just getting ready to leave for my Bikesafe course (my armoured trousers seem to have shrunk since I last wore them, though!!). Unfortunately the venue has been changed from Bushey to the South Mimms Services on the A1, which kind of defeats the object of booking it in a decent location in the first place
Enjoy it Tony, be interested to hear your experience.
With regard to nakeds we will have to agree to disagree. Handling, weight etc are important with that I do agree, but they are not the main driver for naked bikes IMHO. I would also argue that looks are vital with any bike, no one buys one they think is ugly (even if that is subjective- I do own a GS after all!).
Speaking of Monsters, my old S4RS. Last of the ‘great’ Monsters, albeit not aircooled...
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I don’t entirely disagree, but the old Monsters (and certainly the beauty in the previous post) were some of the only really good looking nakeds. Most of them at best have a kind of brutal appeal in stock form, or are just plain ugly eg the new MT07 and MT09. For me, the main driver for getting a naked is realising that sports bikes, while much better looking, are tuned to get into their stride at around double the speed limit in a racing crouch. So a naked is for real world riding pleasure. Looks would be an advantage, and they can customise well, but the main thing is that they should work on the street.
In terms of the new Monster, it’s clear that the engine from the 950 Supersports looks better hidden behind a fairing. But by all accounts it’s a cracker.
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