Reply With QuoteThat's very much an "Americanism". I here it all the time in my line of business and it drives me mad every time I hear it.
The other one that grates on me is data, daata instead of dayta
The correct pronunciation for one of the plastic wifi things that you use to connect to the internet is 'rooter' NOT 'rowter'!! A 'rowter' is used to cut wood.
A router, pronounced "rooter" is a a device used to "route" network (or other types of) traffic as, for example, the wifi box supplied by BT for your internet connectivity or a road e.g. 'route 66'.
A router, pronounced "rowter", is a woodworking tool (from verb "rout"). I think the verb "rout" is a military term as in to "rout" the enemy.
That's very much an "Americanism". I here it all the time in my line of business and it drives me mad every time I hear it.
The other one that grates on me is data, daata instead of dayta
I blame the Americans.Originally Posted by solwisesteve
They often say Rowt instead of Route. For example, a kid having a paper "rowt" is in common parlance.
Cheers,
Neil.
The problem is this 'root' vs 'rowt' thing is being spouted all over the place by English speakers that don't understand the difference :-(
Years ago in this country Data was pronounced "Darta" and still is in Australia.
You've gone American.
Cheers,
Neil.
Years ago in this country Data was pronounced "Darta" and still is in Australia.
You've gone American.
Not in my lifetime it hasn't! :-)
Don’t think I’ve ever had to say ‘router’ (either one).
Yall need to relax.
Years ago in this country 'data' was plural.Years ago in this country Data was pronounced "Darta" and still is in Australia.
You've gone American.
Language is correct through usage.
True.
You often hear the pronunciation "Darta" in older British films and TV series, probably before the mass adoption of computers which has brought us "Program" and "disk" etc.
Cheers,
Neil.
Thought it still was TBH.
Ask an American what a slot or height change in a piece of wood is (we call it a rebate) they will tell you it's a "rabbit".
That's All Folks
Aluminium is 'Al You Min ium'.
It is NOT 'Aloo minum'!
I don't mind too much that Americans have their own way of saying certain words... it's when we (I mean us 'Brits') start using the same pronunciation that I start to get a bit peeved :-(
Local bloke came into the office yesterday and starting saying 'rowter' all over the place. Twice I replied with the correct pronunciation and he just ignored me and carried saying it wrong :-(
Last edited by solwisesteve; 7th August 2018 at 10:33.
Yes I think that's the root of it.
Unfortunately so much Americanism has crept into our language over recent years.
Cheers,
Neil.
Sorry should have been 'too much' not 'to much' :-(
I need to axe you to explain all this again....🇺🇸🇺🇸
The problem with the French is that they don’t have a word for route.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Much ado aboot nowt, hinny . . .
F.T.F.A.
Quite agree with sentiment but please don't get my wife on about this, she would still speak Shakespearian she's so pedantic about English.
English is a living language and will evolve but the upside is that because of the spread of technology coming mainly from the States it has made English one of the most spoken languages so we can go almost anywhere and be understood.
I was told by a network engineer that the 'rowter' pronunciation is drummed into them during any Cisco accreditation courses they do.
I am unduly irritated by people from the UK who say 'math' rather than 'maths', and I've had to correct my youngest from saying 'zee' rather than 'zed'.
Dave E
Skating away on the thin ice of a new day
English chemist Sir Humphry Davy originally called it alumium (1808), then amended this to aluminum, which remains the U.S. word, but British editors in 1812 further amended it to aluminium, the modern preferred British form, to better harmonize with other metallic element names (sodium, potassium, etc.).
You can blame the Yanks for a lot of things but not this one.
I caught my 11 year old saying ‘freeway’ instead of Motorway the other day, too many American supercar Youtube videos I guess.
Cheers..
Jase
I did not know this.
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It is...
I took the mustang to a local car show last week, 2 young lads asked if they could look under the hood..... I corrected them😇😇
I think you need to be a little more pacific with that request.
Not a pronunciation issue, but the American use of fanny always brings a grin.
Last edited by oldoakknives; 7th August 2018 at 12:38.
So when Americans go on a particular route, why do they call it a 'rowt' and not a 'root'?
Good luck everybody. Have a good one.
I would imagine because they're that step further away from France and pronounce it as they read it.
"A man of little significance"
The use of architect as a verb, aaaaargh! Design, the word is design.
It's just what they do.
I've given up trying to correct Americans. Not only is it rude but I have been pointed to the fact that many Americanisms are actually the way we used to spell in the past.
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Cheers,
Neil.
It bugs me. A rowt is like something you have in battle.
Good luck everybody. Have a good one.
......but it is an American car.
Cheers,
Neil.
And as for “can I get a ....” Aaargh!
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One of the reasons for that, is that in certain English speaking countries the British pronunciation is a sexual euphemism, and can get you some very strange looks from the locals.
They do have Caribbean correct though...
And as already pointed out Aloo-minum for Aluminium is acceptable given the naming history.
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TZ isn’t best place to comment on stuff like this.
What about daily wearer/driver?
As in, they turn on/off in the opposite way to us?
Cheers,
Neil.
Always makes me chuckle to hear our cousins across the pond try to pronounce Swiss/German watch brand names (though that's a bit hypocritical as I probably don't pronounce many of them correctly either). Attempts at 'Jaeger-LeCoultre' never fails to raise a smile - 'Yay-yay Lacoo' is common...
That isn’t why they were known in the US as Le Coultre only, but it’s an added bonus.
'Against stupidity, the gods themselves struggle in vain' - Schiller.
Router = rooter
Or
Router = rowter???
I think rowter actually makes more sense,
about = abowt
out = owt
Etc. etc.
Anyway it's all a bit peedentic.
Whether we like it or not language evolves.
Pet peeve at the moment is, since when did dog become F**king doggo?
Lets not let small details get in the way.
It is an English word for an English invention, so we can make up our own name for it and that's that, even if we cant make up our minds what we want to call it.
It still annoys the hell out of me anyway!
On a point of technicality, Davy didn't invent it.
I've heard hundreds of versions of Bobby Troup's song 'Route 66'.
I've never heard anyone use the Americanisation 'Rowte 66' when they're singing...
(Awaits correction, which will no doubt be forthcoming...)
______
Jim.
As in router switch hub
That, and the fact that we have adopted the Yanks version of the ABC song. I have a 5 year old daughter and I refuse to allow her to say it the 'new' way. LMNOP is said so fast, it sounds like some kind of tongue twister.
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