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    Can a Daytona be a Dress Watch?

    A Daytona? Surely the pure sports model in Rolexes line up but, but...

    On an oyster bracelet?


    Certainly not.

    But on a strap? Not an Oysterflex but a proper leather, crocodile or ostrich buckled strap I'm half considering it. I've posted my beloved Cellini on these pages before but it was always my intention to trade once a Daytona arrived in the collection-mainly due to funds.

    But I love a dress watch-something to wear occasionally on (in my taste) a tan strap and there are plenty of options for the Daytona to be jazzed up with dials, cases and strap combinations. Now the 116500LN has arrived, I'm trying to decide just how to use it-it feels a little to delicate on the wrist for a daily wearer-delicate enough to be a dress watch?

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    It’s not delicate and it’s not a dress watch.

    These deserve to be left on Oyster bracelet.

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    Of course, why ever not?

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    Rules are made to be broken and all that jazz. Submariner can be worn with a tuxedo...
    You are the only one to decide how to wear your watches.

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    As we saw at the recent Royal Wedding - the idea of a dress watch is something that seems to worry commoners more than people who spend all of their time attending such events.

    Here's the king of Norway attending a ceremonial diner in honour of said wedding wearing his Rolex Pepsi GMT.



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    It's not for anyone to say if you can wear it as a dress watch or not,if you like it and you're comfortable with it then it's a dress watch to you


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    They wear small and are dress watch in that respect.
    When you look long into an abyss, the abyss looks long into you.........

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    Why are there different styles and types of watches? For what purpose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    Why are there different styles and types of watches? For what purpose?
    ?

    Dive watches for diving

    Driving watches for driving

    &

    Dress watches for wearing with a dress, Obviously...
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Please not again this nonsense about dress watches and what watch one should where when.

    Some self appointed style gurus think they know better than the rest of us.

    The above comment on the Royal Wedding is spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alansmithee View Post
    As we saw at the recent Royal Wedding - the idea of a dress watch is something that seems to worry commoners more than people who spend all of their time attending such events.

    Here's the king of Norway attending a ceremonial diner in honour of said wedding wearing his Rolex Pepsi GMT.


    Absolutely agree. Pre maxi case Rolex is an everyday watch.

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    I would think that 90% if the male population have 1 Watch at most and the thoughts of a dress Watch has never entered their heads.

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    A Daytona on leather? Ridiculous!





    Seriously, it's obviously not a dress watch, but these days you can wear any watch for anything you want. Who's going to care?

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    The idea of a dress watch is a little outdated imo.
    Wear what you like.

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    A Daytona will never be a dress watch.

    That said, you can wear whatever you want wherever you want - we live in an age where, to a significant proportion of the population, mate is spelt "m8" and trainers are worn with (generally ill-fitting) suits.

    I suppose it's a bit like said trainers - most training shoes are designed for a specific purpose - running, tennis, basketball etc - the educated buyer even buys the running shoe that best suits his/her gait, foot shape and running distance.
    The average person just buys a trainer and wears it because they think it looks nice. They'll never get the best out of it - but then lm never going to take my SD to 1220m...

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    A Daytona on leather? Ridiculous!





    Seriously, it's obviously not a dress watch, but these days you can wear any watch for anything you want. Who's going to care?
    Lose those end links Tony and that would be stunning.

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    I’m not a fan of Rolexes but that is one cracking looking watch setup. I’d wear that in a shot - if I could afford it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by verv View Post
    The idea of a dress watch is a little outdated imo.
    Wear what you like.
    I agree, you can look like a muppet doing a whole host of things which still fall within the realms of what is 'appropriate' so these classifications are not helpful.

    If you haven't worked out how to dress yourself so you don't look like a plonker then your watch choice is probably the least of your worries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbongo View Post
    the educated buyer even buys the running shoe that best suits his/her gait, foot shape and running distance.
    The average person just buys a trainer and wears it because they think it looks nice. They'll never get the best out of it - but then lm never going to take my SD to 1220m...
    Your example is odd because it's about using a expressed function of a watch. At a wedding, you aren't take any watch to any depth and yet the truly rich and the royal ignore all of this and wear what they like. Prince Charles wore a chunky chronograph to the recent royal wedding.

    It's only people buying watches on finance who have this strange idea of a rule set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbongo View Post
    A Daytona will never be a dress watch.

    That said, you can wear whatever you want wherever you want - we live in an age where, to a significant proportion of the population, mate is spelt "m8" and trainers are worn with (generally ill-fitting) suits.
    Spot on.

    If you are asking whether it is correct, I suspect in asking the question you know the answer is 'no' - a dress watch is supposed to be discrete and elegant to match the clothing.

    But if you are asking about whether anyone else will notice or care - probably not.

    To my eyes the ceramic Daytona is even less suitable than its predecessor due to the contrasting bezel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbongo View Post
    Lose those end links Tony and that would be stunning.
    Well, the white gold 16519 has integrated end links, albeit that I bought a pair of George's for the 116520. A matter of taste, I suppose, but I like them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alansmithee View Post
    Your example is odd because it's about using a expressed function of a watch. At a wedding, you aren't take any watch to any depth and yet the truly rich and the royal ignore all of this and wear what they like. Prince Charles wore a chunky chronograph to the recent royal wedding.

    It's only people buying watches on finance who have this strange idea of a rule set.
    What an odd comment. Only those buying watches on finance you say? Well lve already proven your assertion wrong.

    As for the royals and the rich - are they your benchmark?

    I tend to avoid forelock-tugging peasant mentality - wealth and royalty often exhibits the worst extremes of bad taste - because they can...

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    Stop pretending that anyone else will notice or care what you wear on your wrist at a ‘dress’ event. They won’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by learningtofly View Post
    Well, the white gold 16519 has integrated end links, albeit that I bought a pair of George's for the 116520. A matter of taste, I suppose, but I like them.
    Now then, the reason for posting this type of question is down to a white metal Daytona on leather....

    Quite a few years ago on our honeymoon we were stopping in Monaco for a couple of nights and whilst idly dreaming about what was in the window of the local dealership I spotted a beautiful Daytona on a tan strap. With the new wife not quite fed up of my watch and car obsession and quite possibly still in the naive bliss of actually committing the rest of her life to my idiosyncratic adventures, she indulged me; "go try it on if you like it"...

    It was beautiful, it was in my searching for a Cellini period but this really swayed me. I forget how much a Daytona was it this time but when the saleswoman said "€25,000 although we can come to some arrangement if sir wishes to pay in cash" (I presume was thinking I'd had some sort of big win at the casino rather than anything like payment in kind) I politely informed her any discount was unlikely to match my meagre funding.

    The car we drove down in was probably worth less.

    So I went on my fruitful Cellini search that culminated in my gorgeous (to me, most find it abhorrent!) white gold on tan Cestello. A nod to the Daytona I guess...

    So if I were to move my 116500LN onto some sort of leather strap, how would one go about it?

    I know I can get an Everest strap but it comes with a buckle, I'd ideally like to have some form of aftermarket deployment catch that tied into some aftermarket end links thus preserving the original bracelet with it's polished centre links.

    Are there people out there who can supply the parts?

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    If you’re asking permission from style boffins or forum nerds to put a Daytona on an alternate strap, and what clothing style you can wear it with …*I envy you not having any more serious issues to consider. :P

    Here, try this:

    It’s a driving watch. Only to be worn while driving your Lotus 8 around the track. All other circumstances are inappropriate.

    Sounds silly, yes? It is silly. Wear the watch how you like, where you like, when you like. If you have trouble getting a dress shirt cuff over the watch, NOW you have a problem to worry about.

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    IMHO, it's rather like the silly you-shouldnt-wear-socks-with-sandals suggestion. A matter of taste and viewpoint. [Personally, I only wear sandals in hot weather when I want to expose as much flesh as possible (without offending anyone of course!), so socks would rather spoil the experience!]

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    To me, only one of these can reasonably be called a dress watch.
    Or, if you really want to go purist.
    It's a bit like camels; you may not be able to give a definition, but you'l spot one when it appears.

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    Last edited by paskinner; 21st July 2018 at 15:07.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegamanic View Post
    ?

    Dive watches for diving

    Driving watches for driving

    &

    Dress watches for wearing with a dress, Obviously...
    So using this as my bible.

    Then a Yacht Master builds yachts.
    The Moon watch is for Patrick Moore.

    But at a loss for a Speedy Tuesday




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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    To me, only one of these can reasonably be called a dress watch.
    Or, if you really want to go purist.
    It's a bit like camels; you may not be able to give a definition, but you'l spot one when it appears.

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    The GO is the least dressy of the three IMO. The GS is dressy but too large to be a true dress watch. The Cosmograph, however, is stunning.

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    The GS is 38mm. Is that too large? 11mm thick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paskinner View Post
    The GS is 38mm. Is that too large? 11mm thick.
    Yes, if you want to go purist.

    It’s a very nice dressy watch, but not a dress watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbongo View Post
    A Daytona will never be a dress watch.

    That said, you can wear whatever you want wherever you want - we live in an age where, to a significant proportion of the population, mate is spelt "m8" and trainers are worn with (generally ill-fitting) suits.

    I suppose it's a bit like said trainers - most training shoes are designed for a specific purpose - running, tennis, basketball etc - the educated buyer even buys the running shoe that best suits his/her gait, foot shape and running distance.
    The average person just buys a trainer and wears it because they think it looks nice. They'll never get the best out of it - but then lm never going to take my SD to 1220m...
    I fully agree.

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    I like divers on leather but the Daytona looks way better on the bracelet imo so leave it like that and you can wear it whenever you like. If you want a genuine dress watch then I'd suggest buying a nice vintage example for occasional wear as the Daytona will never be close to what a classic dress watch should be.

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    Nope, even a watch with a seconds hand can not be a dress watch...though at least the Daytona does not have a date. Though no it can not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vortgern View Post
    It’s a very nice dressy watch, but not a dress watch.
    I would struggle to explain the difference between a dress watch and a dressy watch to 100% of my friends. Come to think of it, I wouldn't know a single person on this planet who would understand the difference.
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    I would say no the Daytona cannot be a dress watch, but that isn't to say it can't be worn for formal/dressy occasions, as others have commented seems anything goes these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    I would struggle to explain the difference between a dress watch and a dressy watch to 100% of my friends. Come to think of it, I wouldn't know a single person on this planet who would understand the difference.
    I agree, but the GS was cited as an example of a ‘purist’ dress watch.

    Based on the example of the GS the dfferences are:

    Size - 38mm is too large for a dress watch;

    Complication - a dress watch shouldn’t have centre seconds.

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    If it fits under your sleeve then it can be past as a “dress watch” but by no means in my opinion Is the Daytona dressy.


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    Why would a sweep seconds hand disqualify a watch as a dress watch? Can you point to a clothing reference that includes all these fascinating details? :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorkshiremadmick View Post
    So using this as my bible.

    Then a Yacht Master builds yachts.
    The Moon watch is for Patrick Moore.

    But at a loss for a Speedy Tuesday
    Clearly it's for those post-Monday amphetamine binges

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    Yes, it’s certainly my dress watch.
    The lack of a date feature means I wear it only on occasion.

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    The only watch I might not wear with a suit, let alone a dinner jacket, is a G-shock - anything goes, and why not?

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    The Daytona is a sporty chronograph.
    It just isn't a dress watch.

    The question is ridiculous in that light.

    Can you wear the Daytona at formal occasions?
    Sure, do as you please. It doesn't make the Daytona a dress watch.

    I drive a Daimler V12. Is that a limousine or a sportscar?
    It can go 250 km/hr. Pretty fast, you might even be able to have some fun driving it around a circuit. However, it couldn't be further from a sportscar.

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    I've worn Omega PO', Daytona', Hublot' and other Rolex sports models to black tie dinners.

    Wear what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ped View Post
    Stop pretending that anyone else will notice or care what you wear on your wrist at a ‘dress’ event. They won’t.
    Harsh but true!

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    Not a Daytona fan - but do like it on a brown leather strap

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    I'm a firm believer that anything can be worn as a dress watch these days provided it fits under a cuff nicely. I usually wear my Dad's old Smiths Military watch on a perlon strap for special events.

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    I agree, if it fits neatly under a cuff it's good enough.


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    IMO a Daytona today is a dress watch. In fact all modern Rolex are.

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    You think a Deepsea is a dress watch? At some point language ceases to have much meaning.

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