I've been offered this at a low enough price to pique my interest, but with that comes a nagging feeling of something untoward.
To be perfectly honest I've no idea what to look for, so any input would be greatly appreciated - I know fakes are getting more and more accurate, and its nice to stay as informed as possible.
A good way to check is to get a pic of the end links in places where they aren't 'on display' and the inside of the main part of the clasp. These are areas that a copy would be less accurate. Also, you can check under the end links to see the finish on the case, again not always finished well on a fake.
Check how the bezel rotates, it should feel solid and well made. Fakes will often have 'play' in them.
well from here even with a complete amateur eye the cyclops looks at a complete angle and the bracelet end links protrude from the lugs when they should actually be slightly shorter. I'd say no...
I'm no expert (they will be along shortly) but...Originally Posted by jimmy_lazers
I've been offered this at a low enough price to pique my interest, but with that comes a nagging feeling of something untoward.
To be perfectly honest I've no idea what to look for, so any input would be greatly appreciated - I know fakes are getting more and more accurate, and its nice to stay as informed as possible.
1) the '30' minute marker on the bezel doesn't look straight
2) font looks wrong on dial
3) font looks wrong on date
4) rehaut between dial and crystal looks too deep
Don't buy it until someone else comments!
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Is the cyclops on the p1ss?
The printing on the dial looks pretty poor in that picture.
I wasn't sure if the cyclops issue was down to the angle of the photo, but following a quick search the end links seem to be a dead giveaway, which I hadn't spotted.
Thanks for that.
So assuming it’s fake, how much are they asking for their fake Rolex?
£850 with a jammed movement - I know that's probably enough of an alarm bell in itself, but I was still curious.
Given a service would be c.£5-600 before parts that would be a terrible deal for the seller if it was real given it's a near £6k watch...
Precisely, although I have come across people before who are genuinely that strapped for cash that they'd flip something for a fraction of its value.
The cyclops looks crooked because the bezel is one click from perfectly aligned.
(EDIT) I just drew a line across the dial printing, the cyclops still looks crooked (and as someone mentioned, looks misaligned with the date window).
There are videos online with tips on “tells” to look for. The photos here don’t come close to revealing some of the well known Rolex details. The highly suspicious price is the biggest tell for me, as others have noted.
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If someone is selling something at a 10th of its price it's nicked or fake.
Just sold a rolex this morning to a jeweller - cash already in my account. No one is selling a rolex for 1/8 of its value
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Agreed and then no doubt the box and papers were lost in a house move.
Damn, thought this was the BP, not the real or fake I was expecting.
Lol - I reckon the battery has stopped working.
Rubbish, this one.
Feel free to identify the seller or give us a link to him so that we can provide some grief.
You owe him nothing, except a lesson for trying to rip you off.
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The top/bottom of cyclops isn't parallel with date window.
... or any of the text on the dial
"It was my Uncle's watch and after he died..."
Fake cliche bingo!
“My watchmaker reckons it’s genuine” (Fred in Timsons)
"Welcome to Humbert and Ellis. How may I help you?"
I inherited it from my Grandad and he wouldn't wear fakes, so have no reason to believe it isn't genuine.
Ooh, that's the closest one so far.
Might just pull on his plonker for a bit and see where this goes...
“Only selling my inheritance piece because I already have a nice watch”
A diesel....
Okay, getting more interesting - allegedly bought from the jewellery quarter in Birmingham in 2008
On the basis that it appears to have a ceramic bezel insert, wouldn't that be impossible? I thought the 116610 only came out in 2010.
If you can get the bracelet off then look between the lugs and check the laser engraving, my gut feeling is its a wrong un though.
Mine too - it seems like I asked one too many questions and its no longer available.
Thanks for saving me a fair few sheets chaps - now all I need to do is try not to splurge it all on something off SC!
So, who was selling it and where?Mine too - it seems like I asked one too many questions and its no longer available.
Thanks for saving me a fair few sheets chaps - now all I need to do is try not to splurge it all on something off SC!
Admittedly it sounds pretty suspect in itself, but a friend of a friend - he's a good lad, but some of his mates are a bit rum and aren't the sharpest, hence why I thought there might be a possibility of a silly bargain.
Seemingly it was exactly as it first appeared, too good to be true.
Fixed that for you.
Here he is:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rolex-Sub...e/192603890250
Rare model though "Rolex Submariner No Date" with date display
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“The seller assures me it’s authentic and offered a money back guarantee if it isn’t.”
Date was inserted after the ebay post
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Well done.
Bwahahaha. And now says it was made “2010-now.” Quick, everyone report it.
Looks like I need to have a word with someone.
The clasp certainly wasn't made by Rolex...the little indent for the release of the safety should run the full length of the centre section of the clasp. Conversely some fakes (super clones) are now identical in this respect. Looks at best a AAA fake...
Can you mention the fake Omega he has listed too? Not sure if the Casio is real ....
Wish I'd checked eBay earlier - not only is that the same seller, but it looks like he's tried it on once already:
A reverse image search shows that they've been pulled from the internet - one from a legitimate sale and one from an actual fake Rolex site!
You need to have a word with the friend who he's a friend of. Fraud's a pretty low trick but doing it that "close to home" is real scumbag work.
I've reported it but no doubt there will be a flood of reports
I've half a mind to do more than have a word to be honest, although considering how angry I am right now it might not be such a sensible idea.
Thanks for reporting it. In the meantime I think I need to go and have a word with myself.
Note his feedback rating
If the previous attempt was taken down by eBay, it's shocking that he can just relist. Mind you, happens on Gumtree (eBay owned, I believe) all the time.
The watch is fake . They are sold on dhgate at varying degrees of ‘quality ‘ . The mag looks all off kilter .
Could be wrong though
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Last edited by bond; 20th July 2018 at 17:34.
Almost comically bad!
Who needs enemies when you've got mates trying to stiff you for £850.
If it is too good to be true...
That said, that watch is a horror show.
Well not any more I don't!
Thought I was more savvy than this, but in hindsight I could have been taken for a bit of a mug...
Still has his equally fake Omega up if everyone could report it!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/omega-sea...r/192603889391
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