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    '78 Seiko Tuna re-issue: SBBN040

    I missed this among all the other announcements in March, but it is due next month:







    It looks to be very close to the original '78 tuna, the first 600m quartz saturation dive watch. The re-issue is uprated to 1000m and the shroud is now zirconia ceramic, 7 times harder than the original.

    Size is 49.4×49.4×15.3mm and contains the 7C46 movement. Limited to 1978 pieces.

    And seemingly, no Prospex "X"!
    Last edited by Tokyo Tokei; 15th July 2018 at 06:54.

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    '78 Tuna Re-issue: SBBN040

    I preordered with Jura months ago. Arriving August apparently.

    If it is as nice as the pictures, I will have to brake my one watch <=40mm rule :)

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    Is the 7C46 movement any good. From what I understand it was designed for the Tuna?

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    I’m pretty sure the example on the Jura website has the unnecessary Prospex X.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabiscuit View Post
    I’m pretty sure the example on the Jura website has the unnecessary Prospex X.
    No, this is the cheap solar version.

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    '78 Seiko Tuna re-issue: SBBN040



    Super combo. Titanium, steel and ceramics. Great that it’s quartz too.
    Last edited by Toshk; 15th July 2018 at 10:03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toshk View Post
    No, this is the cheap solar version.
    https://www.jurawatches.co.uk/collec...ition-s23627j1

    This is the one I’m looking at. It isn’t cheap.

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    Oh thats the other LE Tuna. The modern recreation version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabiscuit View Post
    https://www.jurawatches.co.uk/collec...ition-s23627j1

    This is the one I’m looking at. It isn’t cheap.
    Different hands, dial, crown, shroud, bezel... definitely not the SBBN040 pictured above. The SBBN040 is released here on Aug 10th.

    Edit: I think Jura have just used the wrong stock photo
    Last edited by Tokyo Tokei; 15th July 2018 at 10:38.

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    '78 Seiko Tuna re-issue: SBBN040

    Not long left. Do you think the UK release will have kanji day wheel?

    Think Jura have removed the Golden Tuna page. Sold out.
    Last edited by Toshk; 15th July 2018 at 10:42.

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    The international reference is S23626J1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokyo Tokei View Post
    Different hands, dial, crown, shroud, bezel... definitely not the SBBN040 pictured above. The SBBN040 is released here on Aug 10th.

    Edit: I think Jura have just used the wrong stock photo
    Yes, my mistake. The one you posted looks so much better than the one in the link I posted.

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    These guys are worth a look if your in the UK - seem to get stock well before Jura, and usually good for between 10-20 percent discount on the higher value stuff.

    I got a Baby Blue MM from them this week, Jura not getting stock until September (according to their site)

    https://www.watcho.co.uk/watches/sei...o-prospex.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    These guys are worth a look if your in the UK - seem to get stock well before Jura, and usually good for between 10-20 percent discount on the higher value stuff.

    I got a Baby Blue MM from them this week, Jura not getting stock until September (according to their site)

    https://www.watcho.co.uk/watches/sei...o-prospex.html
    Will they get LE stock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toshk View Post
    Will they get LE stock?
    I got my LE SPB081 from them, and there site says the 6159 and tuna LE’s are “coming soon”

    The Baby MM was my third purchase from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toshk View Post

    Super combo. Titanium, steel and ceramics. Great that it’s quartz too.
    Not much steel 😁 - it's mainly just titanium and ceramic. Think the only steel is the anti magnetic disc under the movement.

    Great to see this reissue of a classic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by momentum View Post
    Not much steel - it's mainly just titanium and ceramic. Think the only steel is the anti magnetic disc under the movement.

    Great to see this reissue of a classic!
    And the crown I think. Which is even better. I like a titanium case. A must for 49mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    I got my LE SPB081 from them, and there site says the 6159 and tuna LE’s are “coming soon”

    The Baby MM was my third purchase from them.
    Well the SPB is not really an anniversary LE.

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    Are the hands titanium?

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    Are they going to be available from the 10th in Japan?

    Jura told me mid September delivery. Sitting on a pile of Avios and now very tempted to go to Tokyo to buy in person :). Difference in price should cover the tax element of the ticket.

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    OP, do you think they will be readily available in ADs from Thursday onwards? Seriously thinking to use my avios and go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toshk View Post
    OP, do you think they will be readily available in ADs from Thursday onwards? Seriously thinking to use my avios and go.
    Mate if you are serious about travelling far to get one I can get a quote from a Chiang Mai AD I use in Thailand? For example the SLA025 was £5k RRP in UK but they were selling it at £3500 as a repeat customer

    So I reckon this would be around £1900 in Thailand as long as it’s not limited to a crazy low number of pieces


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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Mate if you are serious about travelling far to get one I can get a quote from a Chiang Mai AD I use in Thailand? For example the SLA025 was £5k RRP in UK but they were selling it at £3500 as a repeat customer

    So I reckon this would be around £1900 in Thailand as long as it’s not limited to a crazy low number of pieces


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    Thanks Ryan. Just looking for an excuse to go to Japan again :). Have enough avios for 1st class return plus a free companion voucher :).

    Thats two of these for £1100!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Toshk View Post
    Thanks Ryan. Just looking for an excuse to go to Japan again :). Have enough avios for 1st class return plus a free companion voucher :).

    Thats two of these for £1100!

    Excellent! When are we going? :)

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    As soon as I find a companion to chip in for hotel and railway pass :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toshk View Post
    OP, do you think they will be readily available in ADs from Thursday onwards?
    Just returned from a few weeks away, sorry for late reply. Took the exact flight you are interested in too, regrettably seated a little further aft

    The SBBN040 is released on the 10th (Friday) here. Showing as pre-orderable on some sites, with no discount. Some enterprising types are advertising their pre-order for sale elsewhere, which suggests demand might be high.

    I will have a look on Friday at the usual places, assuming I'm not too inconvenienced by the imminent arrival of Cat 2 Typhoon Shanshan. If I only I had a watch that could take such a beating.

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    Oh the weather was the one thing I didn’t care to check.... Can’t find a travel companion anyway.

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    Seiya has one (SBBN040), but sold out, he always takes great photo's. Mines on it's way, not looking forward to the customs bill, but hopefully overall cheaper than a UK/EU sourced (S23626J1)




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    Let us know about the customs bill please.

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    It's still available in Tokyo in some shops. I tried it at one (Wako, in the original Seiko building) in Ginza today...



    (Ignore the usual perspective issue from the wide-angle iPhone lens close up, it is not as giant as it looks there next to my quivering Explorer II!)

    My first impressions?

    The SBBN040 is lighter than you think, being titanium and ceramic. But solid. So very solid. I'm certain this one could far exceed its 1000m depth. It feels permanent, like some kind of ancient monolith. The finish is flawless. The chapter ring is aligned. The seconds hand hit all the markers. I like the classic style hands, black-on-white date, discreet limited-edition text on the (one-piece) caseback and no Prospex logo. The strap is the softer one. The box is the usual black thing, no song and dance here. If I bought one (I didn't, but only because I already have "my" Tuna) I'd wear it. It is too good for keeping in a safe. A decent price really, considering the materials, design, build quality and Seiko dive watch history.

    Whomever designed this one knew their history, and their market. It's a fantastically well-executed piece.

    If you like this sort of thing, and this is representative, I cannot think that you will be disappointed in any way.

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    Thanks for info. Exactly the way I imagined it. Did you buy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokyo Tokei View Post

    My first impressions?

    The SBBN040 is lighter than you think, being titanium and ceramic. But solid. So very solid. I'm certain this one could far exceed its 1000m depth. It feels permanent, like some kind of ancient monolith. The finish is flawless. The chapter ring is aligned. The seconds hand hit all the markers. I like the classic style hands, black-on-white date, discreet limited-edition text on the (one-piece) caseback and no Prospex logo. The strap is the softer one. The box is the usual black thing, no song and dance here.
    A great description of a great watch. Mine is from 1999 but this all applies. It's fantastic to have a watch whose design and construction is so unique and so fit for purpose.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Toshk View Post
    And the crown I think. Which is even better. I like a titanium case. A must for 49mm.
    Pretty sure the crown is titanium too.

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    This shows how overbuilt these watches are watchesbysjx.com/2015/06/seiko-marinemaster-tuna-diver-survives-pacific-ocean-plunge-to-depth-of-4299-metres.html

    The SBBN013 (same as this golden tuna but black) continued to function to over 3000 metres, albeit with a deformed case back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by momentum View Post
    The SBBN013 (same as this golden tuna but black) continued to function to over 3000 metres, albeit with a deformed case back.
    ... I saw that exact watch recently

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokyo Tokei View Post
    Cool! Didnt spot your thread when you posted so thanks for the link. Amazing how far beyond the stated depth the different failure modes were!

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    Over-engineering is always a cool thing.

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    Parcel Force - A flipping week to work out the charges and still no closer

    Your parcel is currently with the customs authorities and is being assessed for import duties and local taxes. These will be notified to the addressee and usually need to be paid prior to the parcel being delivered.

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    '78 Seiko Tuna re-issue: SBBN040

    I was hoping it wears smaller tbh...




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    How big is your wrist? This might make me stick to the solar golden Tuna...

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    Never measured it really. On the big side though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toshk View Post
    I was hoping it wears smaller tbh...



    I was on duty yesterday..colleague of mine has had his for 33 years approx.. still look good.. got 2 photos of it..{cant seem to get photo's to load}

    Ernie

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    OP, do you know if the case is titanium nitride coated like the original Golden Tuna, or just gold colour coating?

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    '78 Seiko Tuna re-issue: SBBN040

    Seiko Japan confirmed:

    Thank you very much for the inquiry about our watch SBBN040.
    We confirmed that the case of SBBN040 is titanium nitride-coated, instead of gold-plated.
    It's not exactly the same as the original, but same type of nitride-coated material.
    Last edited by Toshk; 14th September 2018 at 07:27.

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    Thanks for that - I noticed some English language sites were (google?) translating the spec as gold plated and it seemed a bit odd!

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    Yes, there was no mention of TiN in any of the official Seiko pages. Thought they’ve just used similar colour PVD instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toshk View Post
    Yes, there was no mention of TiN in any of the official Seiko pages. Thought they’ve just used similar colour PVD instead.
    That would be a very un-Seiko thing to do!

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    Sod my silly one watch <40mm rule. Keeping it forever! Bezel is about 41.5mm so doesn’t really feel like a 50mm puck.
    Last edited by Toshk; 15th November 2018 at 20:57.

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    I sent another message to Seiko Japan about hands material. Brass apparently:

    Thank you very much for the question.
    We’d like to confirm the materials used for SBBN040 as follows.

    Hands: Brass
    Mid-case: Titanium
    Case back: Titanium
    Outer-case: Ceramic
    Bezel: Stainless steel
    Crown: Titanium

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    Surprising! I assumed the same material as the crown etc.

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