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    More charity shop tat - or possibly a jewel in the rough.

    Chaps, I would like your opinions on this one please. I think it’s a “dirty dozen” watch and I’m keen to buy it before it goes of to auction.
    Any idea of a fair value (bearing in mind it’s a charity shop)??
    I’d like to make them an offer.





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    Alot. Did you ask about the boot lid?
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Alot. Did you ask about the boot lid?
    If you don’t have anything sensible to add, kindly sod off.


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    It looks like a JLC WWW without the correct back. You might want to open the back and check the movement but assuming the movement is ok and it is running, JLCs seem to be going for around £2,000 on eBay. A back would be around £250 - £300.

    I guess I’d offer around £1,500 if you were thinking about a market price. What you do offer is between you and your conscience of course.

    You may want to post this on the Military Watch Resource website. There are some experts on there and they should be able to guide you more comprehensively than I.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Piemuncher22 View Post
    If you don’t have anything sensible to add, kindly sod off.


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    Calm down terry calm down
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Tuttle View Post
    It looks like a JLC WWW without the correct back. You might want to open the back and check the movement but assuming the movement is ok and it is running, JLCs seem to be going for around £2,000 on eBay. A back would be around £250 - £300.

    I guess I’d offer around £1,500 if you were thinking about a market price. What you do offer is between you and your conscience of course.

    You may want to post this on the Military Watch Resource website. There are some experts on there and they should be able to guide you more comprehensively than I.


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    That’s great - thanks for the info.


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    I have in the past that the tickets in charity shops have a date which states when the item was put out for sale, iirc if it's been out for roughly 2 weeks then you can offer them a reasonable price, which in this case I would do. All they can say is no. Then go from there. Remember alot of charity shop workers are volunteers so don't have a clue what they are putting out aswell as to the pricing, unless they have someone who does actually research things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Tuttle View Post
    It looks like a JLC WWW without the correct back...

    It looks like the correct caseback to me, with the military markings polished off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK View Post
    It looks like the correct caseback to me, with the military markings polished off.
    Looks to me like an issue number on the back. But then what do I know?
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK View Post
    It looks like the correct caseback to me, with the military markings polished off.
    Agreed.

    Link to similar on Ebay: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F113073400185

    (I hope it works).

    You do really need to get the back off to make a better assessment.

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    It looks right to me and I'd gamble that inside it's as it should be.

    Surprised it actually made it to the counter tbh (thats another story) but as it is for sale or auction, it would fetch more for the charity if it was accuratley described and put in auction.

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    The casebacks of these also had the military markings on the inside - WWW plus the serial number. If the outside markings were indeed polished off (as was done in the past when military watches were not as collectable or desirable as today) I doubt if anyone would have gone to the bother of also removing the markings from the inside.

    With full markings these sell for between 1500 and 2000 quids, so probably easily a grand without.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK View Post
    It looks like the correct caseback to me, with the military markings polished off.
    Yes I think you might be right.

    My oversight.

    I still think the back would affect value though and I would factor in the cost of getting a correct back and a service into what I’d offer. Others mileage may vary of course.


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    Well, probably taking a gamble but without opening it I’ve just paid a decent whack for it and it’s now at home.
    Now then, can anyone advise who Michigan be best placed to check it over and service it for me??



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    Quote Originally Posted by henk View Post
    It looks like a shed to my eyes
    Yes but your posts look like ill-informed trolling to many eyes so no real hardship.

    Great find pie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piemuncher22 View Post
    Well, probably taking a gamble but without opening it I’ve just paid a decent whack for it and it’s now at home.
    Now then, can anyone advise who Michigan be best placed to check it over and service it for me??



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    Great find!!!!! I long for a find such as this.
    It is a JLC WWW the case back is correct but has been sanitised - quite common when guys 'kept' them after leaving national service.
    The dial and hands look to be in very good condition the wear on the case looks to be about average considering they are a plated base metal case and the age. (70+ years)
    I would have said send it to John Senior at obsoletewatchparts but I am not sure if he is taking on work anymore.
    Duncan 'the watch bloke' did a great John on my JLC GSTP so maybe try him, he does have an 18 week or so wait as off the last time I sent a watch to him in April.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piemuncher22 View Post
    Well, probably taking a gamble but without opening it I’ve just paid a decent whack for it and it’s now at home.
    Now then, can anyone advise who Michigan be best placed to check it over and service it for me??



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    Good stuff, like others have said we all dream of coming across something like this in some out of the way antique shop or flea market.

    You say Michigan in your post so I’m not sure whether you are in the US or UK. If you are in the US then try either the Military Watch Resource or even the Omega Forums (assuming that you are not already a member) for advice for watchmakers.

    If you are the UK then I have heard that Andrew Leftley at www.timeworldservices.co.uk is well thought of although I have no direct experience of his work.


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    I think his autocorrect replaced 'might' with 'Michigan'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonK View Post
    I think his autocorrect replaced 'might' with 'Michigan'.
    That's what I thought.

    In any case, bloody well done !
    In the Sotadic Zone, apparently.

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    He’s definitely in the UK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piemuncher22 View Post
    Well, probably taking a gamble but without opening it I’ve just paid a decent whack for it and it’s now at home.
    Now then, can anyone advise who Michigan be best placed to check it over and service it for me??



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    The jewellers across the road, not the posh one who will charge you slightly more than you paid for it to send it to a chap on the coast, but the slightly down at heel one a few doors further up, has a competent chap who last serviced it and will, I’m sure, when he returns from his holiday, be happy to give it a once over for around fifty quid.

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    More charity shop tat - or possibly a jewel in the rough.

    Quote Originally Posted by M4tt View Post
    The jewellers across the road, not the posh one who will charge you slightly more than you paid for it to send it to a chap on the coast, but the slightly down at heel one a few doors further up, has a competent chap who last serviced it and will, I’m sure, when he returns from his holiday, be happy to give it a once over for around fifty quid.
    Presuming theres a joke somewhere. Not sure I get it.


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    Lovely find!

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    Cracking find - Don't think I've ever stumbled across anything as tasty as that, but I still live in hope.
    Looking forward to seeing some movement picks. Massive congrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piemuncher22 View Post
    Presuming theres a joke somewhere. Not sure I get it.


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    Nope, just solid advice. Cross the road, turn right up the hill and enquire at the second jewellers you come to.
    Last edited by M4tt; 23rd June 2018 at 22:49.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M4tt View Post
    ... has a competent chap who last serviced it and will, I’m sure, when he returns from his holiday, be happy to give it a once over for around fifty quid.
    That reads like you know the watch M4tt?

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    wow what are the chances of finding a true gem like that in a charity shop! Amazing find!

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    Lovely find, good luck with it!
    I found a Record WWW on a car boot for 12 quid. Good runner, all kosher.

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