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    Gentleman good morning

    Finally arrived yesterday...



    Started to prepare my first (!) doug earlier today with following ingredients:



    Measured and weighed and mixed and worked all together (from left to right: 4 spoons olive oil, 10 gr salt, 42 gr, 500 gr) as it should:











    Feels good and smells promising...



    ... now waiting to double the volume.

    Sorry for the perhaps boring images, thought might be interesting for beginners like I am.

    Looking forward to first heat 30 minutes the new oven (yes, gas... I know. Let’s see...), clean it dry and then see how my very first self made pizza looks like and tastes this afternoon.

    Planned is a standard, simple margherita. As well as a tuna, onions and a aubergines pizza. Pictures and feedback of the Ooni oven to follow.

    To be continued...


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    Yay another one in, and congrats on the purchase.

    So, observations.........

    - Leave the oil alone you do not need this.
    - HOW MUCH YEAST??????????
    - Always add the yeast to water and then into the dry ingredients.
    - Mix it well before adding the salt.
    - Prove with oil not flour and keep it covered with cling film, don't let the air get to the dough it will dry and crust.

    Keep us posted.

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    A bit long on the yeast...
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    The Pizza Thread.... show off...

    ... back again.

    After two hours divided into 6 portions:














    Now gas turned on heating 30’ minutes ...


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    ... well, being the very first pizza it’s been ok. Too hot definitely and too little sourdough. Taste was good. Crunchy. Cheesy. Some lessons learned.






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    Looks good, excellent for first attempt!

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    Great stuff. Got the bug ???????

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    The Pizza Thread.... show off...

    Lessons learned:

    - sourdough 130 gr too small for 33 cm diameter pizza and as a consequence too small and no edge
    - avoid holes and leakage of tomato sauce or else. It will burn down to black carbon and the next pizzas taste acrid
    - 60 seconds is too short. More realistic 2 to 3 minutes baking time in oven
    - pizza has to be turned otherwise it will charcoal at the red near fire
    - gas heats enough. Next time less power, energy
    - either cook or eat. Impossible to do both simultaneously.
    - Ooni easy to install und run. Looks solid quality and nice design at a reasonable price.
    - Place oven high enough to allow you look inside during cooking
    - turn the pizza 45 degrees every 30 seconds
    - always work with flour in order to avoid the dough to stick
    - a shot of fresh good expensive olive oil once served makes the difference

    .. yes. Infected. Got the bug. Great fun. Thank you guys for the impulse and idea. Stay safe


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    Use semolina rather than flour when shaping the pizza.

    I'd probably have made 4 balls with what you had. Or 3 larger ones.

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    230-40g = 12” pizza in our household

    Good first effort though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Morgan View Post
    230-40g = 12” pizza in our household

    Good first effort though
    What? 230 - 240 gr = 12 pizza? How that? 20 gr each?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginpopy View Post
    What? 230 - 240 gr = 12 pizza? How that? 20 gr each?


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    12 inch / ~30cm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Morgan View Post
    12 inch / ~30cm
    Understood... thank you


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    My first attempt with the wood fired oven and to be honest it went much better than I had anticipated, I am now converted and need some more practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginpopy View Post
    What? 230 - 240 gr = 12 pizza? How that? 20 gr each?


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    One 12” pizza, not twelve pizzas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gee252 View Post
    My first attempt with the wood fired oven and to be honest it went much better than I had anticipated, I am now converted and need some more practice.
    Is that the oven Frankie four finger recommended here???

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    Yes it is and it works great.
    Quote Originally Posted by R0bertb00th View Post
    Is that the oven Frankie four finger recommended here???

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    [QUOTE=Gee252;5543129]Yes it is and it works great.[/

    I cancelled mine and got the ooni as didn’t want to wait but must say that does look smart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gee252 View Post
    Yes it is and it works great.
    Good to see you’ve got some great looking pizzas coming off

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    Not cooked pizza for 2 weeks now, feel as though I’ve been missing out looking at these posts. Been using the BGE as a joker to fill up the freezer with pulled pork for friends ahead of winter.

    Will have to get back in the game at the weekend.


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    Tomato sauce, olives, mozzarella, mortadella and burrata. Wow (if a bit heavy, need a grappa now).


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    That looks good. Did you cook before adding everything??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitch3110 View Post
    That looks good. Did you cook before adding everything??

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    Mortadella and burrata went on after cooking.

    Time for coffee and grappa now (did I mention I also made fresh chocolate ice-cream yesterday?).


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    Raffe, pizza looks fantastic as always...now come on you must start an ice cream thread!

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    Wondering if any of the experienced pizza makers on this thread might be able to point me in the right direction with what’s going wrong with my pizza base?
    Made using the PizzApp (version 1.8) recipe for an 8hr RT leavening @ 15 degrees. I don’t have a warm area in the house like an airing cupboard or a proving drawer, so have to gauge the ambient temperature of the house. Can’t imagine that 15 degrees is too far out. though. Bases stretched out to approx 10”, not too heavy on the toppings either. Pre heated the Ooni Koda 16” to about 375 degrees on the mid point of the stone. I actually turned down the flame once the pizza was launched to give the base longer on the stone without burning the toppings. The pizza probably had a good couple of minutes in the oven. Crust was well cooked externally, as were the toppings. That all being said, once the pizza was cut open, the base was still quite doughy (not sure the photo fully captures it). All thoughts & suggestions welcome? My initial thought was the prove of the dough isn’t right. Thanks.


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    ^^ buy a cheap room thermometer or you’ll never be correct with the yeast.

    Stone not hot enough either, minimum 420 for me, and it’s grand up to 500c.

    I also turn down after launching which stops the crusts burning.

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    An eight hour proofing, especially at such low temperature, is never going to give you a perfect result. Go for 24 hours and find an warmer space (20+ degrees). You will only need a fraction of the yeast and get much more predictable results.

    Your dough looks very thick, if your base was 10 inch, how heavy was the ball? It also looks very solid and heavy, which I attribute to the short proofing.

    Lastly, as has been said, go for a higher temperature in the oven. The dough should rise before the yeast dies.
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    Thanks gents. Will get onto buying a room thermometer this evening. I didn’t really want such a short proof time, but the family were keen for pizza for tea tonight, I did worry it wouldn’t be long enough. I think also I’ll need to play around with orientation of the oven as there may have been a bit of wind this afternoon which affected the ambient temp in the oven. As always, appreciate folk taking time to respond.


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    Altogether better results tonight. Bought new yeast (active dry yeast), as the tin I had was a few months old; longer proof (36 hours), and put the pizza oven in the BBQ hut out of the wind. Thanks for all the pointers folks, it’s quite a journey!


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    Hey, that looks great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Hey, that looks great!
    It was night & day! I did think that with a 270g ball it might have stretched out a bit more, but very pleased with the result.


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    Fantastic crust, well done! Feels great when you nail it, doesn’t it? I really need to get back into it again, salivating now.

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    ... let’s get rrrrrrrrrumble!!!!



    Margherita this evening.

    Cheers. L


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    Yesterday's pizza for my daughter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Yesterday's pizza for my daughter.


    Brilliant!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Yesterday's pizza for my daughter.


    Very very sweet. Bravo


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    Mrs SydR excelled herself today. Truly homemade pizza. She made from scratch the base, the tomato sauce and the mozzarella. Even home grown greens.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SydR View Post
    Mrs SydR excelled herself today. Truly homemade pizza. She made from scratch the base, the tomato sauce and the mozzarella. Even home grown greens.
    Homemade mozzarella, that’s impressive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Homemade mozzarella, that’s impressive!
    She got a book last week with recipes for 20 different types of cheese. This was her first try today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SydR View Post
    She got a book last week with recipes for 20 different types of cheese. This was her first try today.
    I’ve got to try it now - just ordered some rennet!

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    The Pizza Thread.... show off...

    ... not bad:

    Margherita:



    Quattro formaggi:



    Focaccia rosmarino olio d’i oliva e sale:




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginpopy View Post
    ... not bad:

    Margherita:



    Quattro formaggi:



    Focaccia rosmarino olio d’i oliva e sale:




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    This looks excellent. Now I feel hungry!


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    Fired up my Ooni Koda 16 for the first time.
    Dough is a little thicker than I want, but tasted excellent nevertheless (Ooni same day recipe).
    Prefer it thinner to get a crispier base.
    Made 6 12" pizzas.
    Thumbs up from the family.
    Photo is after resting on a rack to give base even more of a chance to crisp up.
    Think I've got the launch sorted with some semolina on the peel and got a smaller rotating peel to turn in the oven.

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    Thank you to Raffe for the advice on the indoor oven. I ended up with the effeuno and gave it a first go today. Really happy with it. Even cooking all around and pizza done very quickly just like Ooni, etc.

    Pizza during Christmas break anyone!?


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    Great looking pizza there.

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    Quick nine hour dough in the Effeuno. A simple Pizza Napoli with olives and anchovies.






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    Looks like perfection.

    Are you adding semolina to the dough these days? Might try it again next time.

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    @Raffe I've looked through the last couple of pages of this thread but can't see any mention of your Effeuno oven (maybe a few pages further back than I looked) but which one have you got? The results look v good. I assume you can get them built into kitchen units like a built in microwave?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boss13 View Post
    Looks like perfection.

    Are you adding semolina to the dough these days? Might try it again next time.

    No semolina in the dough, I do it sometimes but not this time. The difference is in taste rather than consistency.

    The semolina you are seeing on the picture is from the stretching process. I keep wanting to buy rice flour but always forget.


    Quote Originally Posted by subseastu View Post
    @Raffe I've looked through the last couple of pages of this thread but can't see any mention of your Effeuno oven (maybe a few pages further back than I looked) but which one have you got? The results look v good. I assume you can get them built into kitchen units like a built in microwave?

    Had it for almost a year, mine is the P134HA model (which is a bit higher, same as boss13).

    Not sure you can integrate it into kitchen, those things get quite hot and will probably need some space. I have it sitting on a shelf.
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    Long time away from pizza, but cooked on the Ooni last night. First time cooking at night with a head torch on.

    Dough was really sticky, didn’t feel nice to work with, first one was too embarrassing to take a photo, too much char & still a bit raw dough - realised I hadn’t turned the gas down.

    That was the highlight, next dough ball just didn’t behave and stuck to everything it touched until I re balled it to come back to.

    Third behaved equally badly but then dropped it half into a sink when I was stretching. That one went in the bin, re balled one needed time to rest, so got fed up, threw that one away too & turned the oven off.

    I think my issue was a combination of errors with the dough. Meant to have been a Saturday meal, so timings and yeast was calculated accordingly, had 24hrs longer in the fridge.

    Compiled with that, when I removed it from the fridge & had balled it up after a couple of hours, I moved it to the lounge where it was 23C not the 17C I’d suggested it would have been at.

    Plus I’d moved my hydration up to a measly 65% vs 60% so this would also have had an effect. Was amazed how sloppy is got from practicing weekly.

    This probably sits in the rant post in the BP more than it does here. CertInly was not my night for being a successful pizza chef.

    Then I log in & see Raffe’s wonderful looking creation!

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