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    Prs-29a out of stock.

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    Hahaha, I donít understand why it winds people up to the extent it does - especially on a *recreation* of a vintage watch.

    Doesnít that W10 look beautiful, with the ecru against the black dial?

    I understand peopleís philosophical objection to it on a new, original design watch... but I think itís a perfectly sensible option here.

    My current, much loved 29a has coloured lume after all... itís a light green instead of white. Why doesnít that inspire the same reaction?

    Itís not like Iím suggesting a Ďpre-agedí case like a recent Zenith - that is a step too far.

    EDIT: People (including me) love the look of vintage watches, much preferring them to the vulgarity or flashiness of many modern pieces - but donít want to contend with a) raised prices (a W10 in good nick is now c.£1500), b) potential fragility (cracking tritium for example), c) the vast number of put-together watches/fakes (maybe not for W10s, but certainly for others), d) want the ease and pleasure of buying a brand new, warrantied watch.

    As luminova doesnít age, you canít wait 20 years for tritium patina to develop (as if that is a sensible proposition even for the young) AND by the tritium does colour, it wonít function as lume - an enjoyable and useful part of a tool watch.
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    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Starting to look promising to become more than a project only!

    Are these custom hands or stock? I think they could do with being a little thinner or graduating in size?

    I understand taking it away from the pure original design and adding lume as you need to sell watches and that seems to be the demand of the crowd!!

    I still think on all these dials, that the 6 is still popping up to high (this might just be a visual thing even though following a rule - which might have to be broken)

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    My initial thought would be thinner hour and minute hands.

    I'm not averse to luminous compound on the dial, but having the numeral at six raised up does upset the dial somewhat (imho).

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    I think that the heavy spade hour hands were typically a little less squat - more of a stem before opening out, eg





    Also, as they have unlumed hands they had a unlumed dials too?
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    I've never had a first render which looks like it should. Even though I send pictures and a description, there's always an element of artistic license. It usually takes 2 - 3 attempts for them to do what I ask for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post


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    Yes please!
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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    I've never had a first render which looks like it should. Even though I send pictures and a description, there's always an element of artistic license. It usually takes 2 - 3 attempts for them to do what I ask for.

    Eddie
    Its a good process to iron out you're thoughts :)

    I have had a quick go of changing the hands, making them a little thinner. I have tapered the minute hand and made the hour hand less bulbous.

    I also lowered the 6 a tiny touch.


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    The more I look at it, the more I like the raised 6!
    I agree that the hands need to be a fair bit thinner but Iím not bothered about the lume although a full lumed dial would be nice.

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    Since the hands are not lumed, I think it would look better if the dial was also not lumed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomasC View Post
    Since the hands are not lumed, I think it would look better if the dial was also not lumed.

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    I agree. I dont see the point in only luming the dial (unless its fully lumed, but thats something else entirely).



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    I actually think if there is lume, on this dial and design an aged style may look best...


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    Quote Originally Posted by TomasC View Post
    Since the hands are not lumed, I think it would look better if the dial was also not lumed.

    Tomas
    I quite agree. I donít follow the logic. No lume required on this one, Eddie.


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    What about a lumed dial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Side of The Loon View Post
    What about a lumed dial?
    To me lumed dials always look garish. I'd rather have a creamy dial and turn on a torch to see the time. There might be enough contrast between the dark hands and the light dial to read the time in all but the darkest rooms anyway.

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    Yes, I agree with MurrayMint, a fully luminous dial won't suit this watch at all imho. An egg shell/off white dial with heat blued hands will be perfect.

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    Playing with some more dial options, if you were not to have lume and just printed. I like the outlined version with the dial showing through.

    Vintage lume looks nice with the strong dark outer lines.









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    With the latest rendering/mock up pics does this mean that a black dialled smiths military 29a with sapphire and 20mm lugs is not on the cards or are there two watches in the pipeline ? I thought it was about continuing the 29a in a modern form ?


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    Prs-29a out of stock.

    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post


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    Dare I ask will this one probably not happen? Or is the blued hands/ pearly dial the focus ?


    Not moaning ha obviously any is a bonus to see

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    The lume will disappear from the white dial version, so the 6 can resume its rightful place.

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    So is a PRS29a type watch dead in the water now, or still possible? I'd still settle for another run if the 29a!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogdensnut View Post
    So is a PRS29a type watch dead in the water now, or still possible? I'd still settle for another run if the 29a!

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    Given what Eddieís written below, Iím hoping it means both dials could be used. Best of both worlds!



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    The lume will disappear from the white dial version, so the 6 can resume its rightful place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    The lume will disappear from the white dial version, so the 6 can resume its rightful place.

    Eddie
    And a 12, please rather than the arrow?


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    Quote Originally Posted by lughugger View Post
    And a 12, please rather than the arrow?


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    I agree, 12 would balance better I think.

    Lume shmoom.

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    I've lost count of the number of different watches mooted in this thread. "Change this, change that, change summat else" etc etc, ad nauseum. The original 29A was what it was/is what it is, it was made for a reason. Just make it again FFS. The design doesn't need changes. If you want a different watch then buy a different watch. IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    I've lost count of the number of different watches mooted in this thread. "Change this, change that, change summat else" etc etc, ad nauseum. The original 29A was what it was/is what it is, it was made for a reason. Just make it again FFS. The design doesn't need changes. If you want a different watch then buy a different watch. IMHO.
    I regret that I didn't buy one when I had the opportunity, but from what I've seen it doesn't need changing.



    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    The lume will disappear from the white dial version, so the 6 can resume its rightful place.
    However, I'm liking the sound of this one more and more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    I've lost count of the number of different watches mooted in this thread. "Change this, change that, change summat else" etc etc, ad nauseum. The original 29A was what it was/is what it is, it was made for a reason. Just make it again FFS. The design doesn't need changes. If you want a different watch then buy a different watch. IMHO.
    Agreed Bob.
    Only the sapphire crystal wiil do.
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    I think where we are at is: Eddie is remaking the 29a as per his design which is an update on the original. We then suggested a 29c white version that has got traction and we are kicking that design about... for Eddie to tell us what he actually does plan to do (or not!) in the future!! Itís all good fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    I've lost count of the number of different watches mooted in this thread. "Change this, change that, change summat else" etc etc, ad nauseum. The original 29A was what it was/is what it is, it was made for a reason. Just make it again FFS. The design doesn't need changes. If you want a different watch then buy a different watch. IMHO.
    Amen!


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    I'm sure Eddie knows how much the 29a is loved. Problem is if he produces a revised 29a and another Smiths model then I might end up having to have both. Dammit.


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    Other than the updated W10, I'm a bit confused. Are we possibly getting a white dialled W10 or a new 6B/159 or a new ATP or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks View Post
    Agreed Bob.
    Only the sapphire crystal wiil do.
    And drilled lugs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverCD View Post
    I think where we are at is: Eddie is remaking the 29a as per his design which is an update on the original. We then suggested a 29c white version that has got traction and we are kicking that design about... for Eddie to tell us what he actually does plan to do (or not!) in the future!! Itís all good fun!
    That was/is my take on the thread fwiw.

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    Prs-29a out of stock.

    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    I've lost count of the number of different watches mooted in this thread. "Change this, change that, change summat else" etc etc, ad nauseum. The original 29A was what it was/is what it is, it was made for a reason. Just make it again FFS. The design doesn't need changes. If you want a different watch then buy a different watch. IMHO.
    Totally agree , I said something similar earlier on in the thread . It just detracts from something pure of what it was meant to be - a smiths military. Of course a few upgraded materials and dimensions is neither here nor there but it does seem to be going way off on tangent imo . If people want it though what else is there to be said . True spec or near enough true spec for me all the way!!!

    Bring on a new 29c white dial also by all means though :)


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    Looks good Eddie.think both "new" versions will do well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post


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    That looks like my dreams made flesh. I especially like the broad-gauge train tracks.

    If I was going to push my luck, I would wish for slightly more debonair numerals
    Last edited by Der Amf; 27th May 2018 at 13:08.

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    Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    That looks like my dreams made flesh. I especially like the broad-gauge train tracks.

    If I was going to push my luck, I would wish for slightly more debonair numerals
    Very very nice!


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    I can sense this lovely creamed dial version or regular version will be akin to people choosing between a black sarb033 or 035 . Both extremely legible and appealing .


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    That latest creamy white dialled version is superb. Want... (but agree about the numerals needing a bit more refinement - something like those on the '53 Thin Arrow would be good).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geralt View Post
    That latest creamy white dialled version is superb. Want... (but agree about the numerals needing a bit more refinement - something like those on the '53 Thin Arrow would be good).
    I can't find a font with the same style 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    I can't find a font with the same style 7.

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    Fair do's. I appreciate the problems. Still a great job, though!

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    Now that looks very pretty!
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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post


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    Thank you, Eddie


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    +1. That looks brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    I can't find a font with the same style 7.

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    Iíll have a look through the font database at work next week, sure we can track something down... might be worth getting Chris P on the case as well.

    Itís looking great though, Eddie!

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    That looks lovely, but is there any way to get silk (between gloss and Matt) blue luminous paint on the hands that gives a similar effect to the blued steel hands of the original. That, or the same sort of hands and lume as on the Lemania HS9 chronograph?

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    Looks lovely.

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