Eddie
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Whoah, love it on the brown strap.
Very nice indeed !
Lovely, just lovely. I'd prefer a date and a 12-hour totaliser, but for what it is, it's beautiful.
Love it
what movement were you thinking about ?
would the bezel marks be lumed as well ?
Lovely.
Sapphire bezel insert please. I don't think ceramic would suit the style.
You have to work with what the movement will do.Originally Posted by lasz
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
I like this because it does not obviously look like an homage to something else (unless it does of course!) and the overall design has a pleasing coherence to it. But at 42mm, for me, simply too large. And I worry about the aged lume. Is there any prospect of a reduction in size to 40mm and maybe offer un-faux-aged-lume?
Martin
I like that a lot, especially with the brown/tan strap.
42mm is fine for me. I am wary of vintage lume because I fear it is 'of the moment' but I believe an all white lume on this may make it feel too busy and fussy (like a Navitimer)
I'm still holding our hope for the Smiths vintage 60s chrono too.
Last edited by AM94; 25th April 2018 at 12:44.
Love it by time we had another chronograph.
Just kidding but it looks brilliant.
Another vote for a sapphire bezel instead of ceramic, the latter wouldn't look right with the boxed sapphire crystal and general vintage look of the watch. In fact, I'd be quite happy with an aluminium insert.
+1I like that a lot, especially with the brown/tan strap.
42mm is fine for me. I am wary of vintage lume because I fear it is 'of the moment' but I believe an all white lume on this may make it feel too busy and fussy (like a Navitimer)
I'm still holding our hope for the Smiths vintage 60s chrono too.
Especially considering that revolution is now marketing NOS gevril tribecas for $2900...
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Is this an actual watch in the pipeline? I think this is a winner.
I think that looks fantastic but I am a sucker for two sub-dial symmetry. My only concern is that at 42mm it may be too big for me. Apologies if it's there and I've missed it but can you tell me the lug-to-lug distance, please.
PS Ignore me, it's 50mm. Borderline for me but I might have to make it work!
Last edited by Optimum; 25th April 2018 at 12:08. Reason: Edited for stupidity.
That's really smart.
I would love to see a lumed sapphire bezel over ceramic. Mechaquartz is an intresting choice. Much more reliable that a clone handwound I guess.
Last edited by Sinnlover; 25th April 2018 at 12:28. Reason: Noticed the movement
Looks fantastic, a 12 hour bezel for duel time zones would make it perfect for me.
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...whatever it will finally look like, for me No.11 please :-)
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KH
i like it, although i echo the comments above re the lume.
ktmog6uk
marchingontogether!
I agree, I'm not keen on the aged lume. I'd prefer white or subtle green.
Had it been called "light brown lume" I'd probably have been fine with it. "Aged lume" is faux-patina, which I'm not a fan of.
Looks great. How much and when? ;-P
Looks super, great that it’s a no date and love the dial.
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That looks great! As a speedy owner, I am drawn to sub dials that are a different colour. I do like a date (more than I originally appreciated on my horological
journey) but totally accept that depends on the movement. I really like the simpler chronograph presentation
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I asked for another render using the VK63 movement because it has running seconds, a 60 minute totaliser and a 24 hour totaliser. I also added a date and a grains of rice bracelet.
Eddie
Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".
Love it. But as I rarely go 1000 mph and need to time it even less I'd ditch the tachy in favour of a pulse meter / tachy Like the sinn 157I asked for another render using the VK63 movement because it has running seconds, a 60 minute totaliser and a 24 hour totaliser. I also added a date and a grains of rice bracelet.
Eddie
Probably too big for me, especially lug to lug, 40mm x 48mm and I'd be all over it.
Quite like the aged lume, I know it s a bit Marmite for some but done well I think it looks good.
Like the BOR bracelet too though less keen on the date.
Hold on. I thought that for both these movements the 24h subdial (at 3) was a day/night indicator, and not a totaliser or part of the chrono at all.........
Interesting, very interesting. Please would it be possible to see the two render's side by side?
The latest version is certainly an improvement although I am not a fan of the beads of rice bracelet.
Even though I'm waiting for the other Chrono - I'm in!
Size is good for me, only thing I'd not go with is the BOR i'm afraid, what other options would there be Edwardo?
I prefer the first option with no date and the arabic 6. The symmetry here is strong and very appealing.
I like the second one too but just not as much.
I really like the beads of rice on it.
Both look nice. I'd lose the tachymeter on the three dial version as there looks to be a lot going on there.
not a fan of the vk63 but thats clouded by my dislike of those bracelets , first one on the tan/brown strap looks very cool. Prices ?
My running preference based on above...
Original (bi-compax) dial
Creamy, rather than brown lume
12 hour bezel
No date
Sapphire bezel insert (aluminium would be preferable to ceramic)
BOR bracelet yes please
Ok MartinCRC, I think that I got it.
This is scaled as you suggested to suit the 40mm case.
The key is that the registers are the same width apart as on the 42mm case (approx. 15mm)
I tried to keep the same proportions, like that the "gap" is about 7% of the radius.
The subdials were sized to 95% of their originals.
OPTION A:
OPTION B:
As above, but a different dial marker variation
- the cut-off markers at 10,2,4,8 were bugging me... but I don't know if I like this alternative or not:
I'm inclined to put all the hands back to the "large" (42mm) size on the 40mm case, as in the first picture posted in #82 above
I think the larger hands looked better on the 40mm dial ... except for the second hand of course.
So finally...
OPTION C:
the longer minute & hour hands, and ... NO MARKERS.
I mean, the hours are on the bezel so reading the time is not a problem.
Ultra clean.
Technically we should also check out the pump pushers... they probably need to be in the same position/axis as the 42mm case.
Also maybe the crown should be the original size instead of scaled down with the case.
All depends on what Eddie's manufacturing options are...
For reference a VK64 movement is as follows (in size), so at least THAT doesn't seem like an issue on the smaller case (but what do I know...)
Outside Diameter: 13 1/2 Ligne or 30.8 x 29.1mm
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Hmm, on my previous post, I had just scaled the entire 42mm watch down to 40mm to make the "Refined" version.
Then I realized maybe that would be a problem for the hands (like can you get them 1mm smaller?)
So I made another copy, except this time, ALL the hands on the 40mm are the same size as the hands on the 42mm
it actually doesn't look bad... maybe the second hand is a little too long.
Maybe that could be made smaller, or alternatively just scale the dial design up - pushing it outwards very minimally (0.5 - 1.0mm?)
If the dial went up very slightly in size (pushing towards the edge) then it really shouldn't be an issue.
I find there's a bit too much blank space outside the outer index circle as it is anyway...
Ah shoot, I failed to consider the positions of the sub-registers... that will be defined and fixed by the movement choice.
Back to the studio...
OK here we go.... the original 42mm, and the new 40mm case = USING THE SAME HANDS & DIAL as the 42
MartinCRC is going to lose itas I come full circle to his position
Now if hand size IS flexible, then we could fiddle with it some more.
The register positions however are fixed, so if we want the "gap" between the index circle and rehaut, then we have to shrink the size of the BIG BALLS registers (but leave them fixed on their center points), allowing us to bring the outer index track down in size (leaving us a wider gap to rehaut) ...
That is really starting to get beyond what I can do with Photoshop (well, GIMP) hacking up the image.
Last edited by redhed18; 5th May 2018 at 08:53.
Here's a treat for some of you guys...
The Breguet style 12-hour bezel, and also a 40mm variant.
There's a lot more tuning required.
(this watch design stuff isn't easy!)
e.g. Not sure if I like the "Big Balls" sub-dials... but it's growing on me lol.
and no BOR... save the money, this watch deserves a strap. People will customize.
Also, I was thinking if we did go three-register, one of the registers in all the Mecha-Q variants is a 24 hour hand (iirc)... and could that be coverted to an AM/PM indicator, maybe like JLC's red dot... ? Everybody loves a little Jaeger. ;-)
e.g.
red dots
http://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/us/e...h/2068570.html
http://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/us/e...h/208A570.html
and no dot, but...
http://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/us/e...h/207857J.html
I assume "tuning" custom registers is probably beyond where Eddie can or wants to go?
Other Inspirations
Dodane Type 21 Reissue
https://www.fratellowatches.com/the-...pe-21-reissue/
Tactico Type RE
I was dead keen on the sold out Tactico RE release from a few years ago.
Could be some design cues there worth having a look at...
I'm not advocating copying another brands work (not much different than eyeballing the Breguets etc. at this point though)
but at least it was a modern micro-brand build ... sometimes design elements from say the 1950's are not possible to recreate today except at vast cost.
I'm unclear on the sizing, whether it was 40mm / 22mm / 48mm or 42-43-44mm / 22mm / 52mm
http://www.tacticowatches.com/styled...s-5/index.html
https://oceanictime.blogspot.ca/2013...o-type-re.html
https://youtu.be/U63bmzVeKiM?t=278 (and diagram at 7:35)
Last edited by redhed18; 5th May 2018 at 16:00.
Nice, but the lume kills it for me...
M
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Breitling Cosmonaute 809 - What's not to like?
Version 1 with a lighter lume and a 12 hour bezel would be good
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Version 1 definately more to my liking. I would also add myself to the list of those generally not enamoured of faux aged lume, but I do appreciate thisis a piece styled to look vintage and, as such, modern lume brighter than Tom Cruise’s smile would look equally out of place. As long as it is done sympathetically, it would not be adeal breaker. The same goes for the bezel choice. I am sure a matt ceramic would work, though sapphire seems more popular, so far.
Generally though, speaking as a person who is not really a chronograph fan, this could spark my interest in that style of watch. Good luck with the continued development.
Very nice - and quite reminiscent of a Breguet and other make' Type XX French Air Force Chrono. Whether 2 or 3 sundials, can we place have it with a 0-12 rather than a 0-60 bezel, like these?
I think this is more akin to the project:Very nice - and quite reminiscent of a Breguet and other make' Type XX French Air Force Chrono. Whether 2 or 3 sundials, can we place have it with a 0-12 rather than a 0-60 bezel, like these?
R
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I bet that isn't 42mm across the beam.I think this is more akin to the project:
R
M
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The modern Air Command's are 40mm.
R
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By measuring a movement shot and comparing the case to the 31.3mm dismeter of the Valjoux 22 in the original, I come to the fact that the original is 39.8mm across.
Dave
Helson did a nice mechanical homage a few years back.I think this is more akin to the project:
R
Eddie,
Would a seagull movement like the ST1901 fit to the design and make it in the project?
I know you have some previous experience with the PRS-5 on it.
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Guess I better hurry finishing of my Dreadnought GMT fund ... as I'll need a new fund for this baby
First rendition looks fantastic.
40mm, 1-12 bezel, no date.
Hi Eddie,
I like the design a lot but would prefer the automatic Seiko movement. If needed I know someone with contacts.
The mecaquartz is nice but not a mechanical and I am not currently looking at anything non mechanical...
This.
Dave
The twin sub dial version is sheer watch porn, it's so hot it should be in the boys room.
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