Reply With QuoteSelf employed. Zero pay rise...
Just read this morning that pay rises are now rising faster than inflation which I guess is good news.
Unfortunately my pay rise was only 2.3%, but I do work in the oil industry which has just come out of a deep recession. So, technically I’m poorer this year than last
What are your pay rises like and what industry do you work in? Are you beating inflation at 2.7%?
Self employed. Zero pay rise...
Hard fought 1% only :(
Pay rise...what's this you talk about? I have heard they exist but seemingly not in my industry..
Real living wage, so no increase here.
Public sector index linked pension and just got 2.9%.
I know i was very lucky to get this pension but i worked bloody hard for it and paid a fortune in.
They tend to be few and far between but larger % when they come and often with some kind of extra responsibilty/workload. Motor trade.
Zero for five years then 1% for three years, got 0.8% last year and likely to be the same this year. I’ve been with my employer for 25 years but cannot stay any longer so I’m now very actively looking for alternative employment.
I have never felt less valued by my employer than I do right now.
If you take an average of the private sector rises across the past eight years and apply it to my salary I’m a massive £8000 per annum worse off than I would have been if we’d kept pace with the private sector average.
I’ve had enough of being shafted now.
Your 2.3% OP is very good indeed.
Last edited by TaketheCannoli; 17th April 2018 at 10:53.
Hi David, that's a very poor show from your employer. You've given them 25 yrs and they haven't respected you? A good boss will always acknowledge how valued you are and do his best for your welfare and employment prospects.Originally Posted by TaketheCannoli
They obviously don't deserve you and good luck in your search.
Regards
Rod
I'm in the Oil industry too, nothing for a couple of years here...
Oil industry too, 3.1% this year.
Hi Rod - when your employer is a Tory Government it really isn’t surprising. I’m really proud to serve the public and we’ve delivered some fantastic achievements in my time. I’m currently working on the biggest change to welfare reform in history. Our Minister and Perm Sec continually publically praise our achievements but we know those words are hollow because they don’t value us in the slightest.
I’ve been discussing the issue of pay with the Director General and Perm Sec for months. The impact on colleagues’ lives is massive and moral and engagement are at an all time low.
This year’s pay award is currently being discussed although if I get more than 1% I’ll show my arse in Fenwick’s window.
3% for everybody where i work.
Wife has just had a promotion and 8% rise in the same place but she does work very hard and it just about brings her to what she would get elsewhere at a similar level.
We get somewhere to live so the wages are lower and they like to remind us of the fact they provide a house.
Pleasantly surprised to get 3% last year and this ( last week)
I didn’t get any rides for 6 years from 2008 and moved jobs to get a pay rise then.
Medical / hospital sales rep.
Last edited by JasonM; 17th April 2018 at 11:21.
It would be interesting to know what industry/occupation as well
I don't think I have had a pay rise since I left full time employment. It is difficult to charge too much in a competitive industry and provide good value and service for clients.
That said, as an employee, if you think your value to the company is such that you can demonstrate it and you feel you deserve a pay rise - they speak up. A lot of the time people don't get what they deserve because they don't ask or push for it, and end up getting the basic % rise. I prefer to have an open dialogue with staff and they tell me when they are being approached by competitors etc. and also being involved in lots of hiring for clients I am fairly well unto date on how much it costs to buy in the right talent.
I see too many people with a few years experience wanting to know why they aren't getting paid the same as Mr or Mrs X, who has 10-15 years experience, when they have the same or similar job title! Hmmm.
It's just a matter of time...
Capped at 1% for the last several years after a couple of years at 0%...I think my actual over last few years has been 0.8% per year.
All sounds good...but it doesn’t work like that in the public sector.
I appreciate that - but I have lots of friends who work in health (most are not over paid and are there because they love the role), and they have had scale point rises (and the regular inflationary wage rises applied to the scales) every year, while others have suffered much more by the excuse of the economic downturn from 2007/2008.
It's just a matter of time...
Employers pension rises in line with inflation measured in September so 3% this year. Not complaining.
Public sector so near enough bugger all for the last ten years. Reduced leave allowance, an end to pay scale progression and a shafted pension make it even worse.
Bizzarely, they can’t understand why engagement levels are crap in the staff surveys.
I think the next year could well see me move to the other side...there isn’t much keeping me after 20 years. I’ve had some amazing jobs but I’ve got a family to consider now.
The average across our company this year (March) was 2.5%-3%. Fortunate to be in a sector that has done quite well over the last few years.
I haven't had a pay rise for a number of years now. I think my last one was in 2010. And I do mean nothing: not inflationary but a big fat zero.
In fact, when another company bought my employer in about 2010, they removed some "discretionary" benefits such as a £10k pa share award for people at my level. I say "discretionary" because it was a very clear part of my job offer when I accepted the role in 2007.
The only people who get any pay rises now are those getting promoted, which is a pretty rare occurrence once you get into your 40s.
Apparently, the market (for my quite specialist skills) is very flat. Lots of recruitment 20-30 years ago mean we're quite top heavy now and several of our competitors have made big redundancies.
Yes, I am bitter. Yes, the "engagement" scores at my employer are rock bottom (although improving as some of the older guys think "sod it" and retire early). After another nil payrise last month (and told never to expect one again), I am finally summoning up the enthusiasm to start looking around.
The scale point rises are a mechanism to acknowledge experience and a commensurate increase in work responsibilities as you progress within the role.
When I started my job in anaesthetics the difference between what my role was as newly qualified and when I was top of scale were worlds apart.
Interestingly it is not the same wage restraint/progression if you are an MP. In that instance you are effectively put at the top of scale from the beginning regardless of experience within the role.
None for me (self employed) but the wife got 8% last year, after telling them she was pregnant.
And she was given her normal 10% annual performance bonus last month even though she was only there for 3 months.
You'd almost think they liked her!!
Manufacturing heavy plant industry BTW
Last edited by demonloop; 17th April 2018 at 12:38.
0% and 0% in my two years here (in spite of industry profitability and particularly high profitability in my firm). Approaching the review of my third year, I don't think 0% again is fair, particularly given I rent (and the firm is based) in an area that's seen disproportionate rental and council tax price growth.
Tell me about it. Now our scale point progression has stopped, there are people with years of experience on exactly the same pay as those who just started.
Of course, if you were lucky enough to have gained that experience before they moved the goalposts, you earn far more.
Well after being told mine was 3% my payslip appeared in my email.
Just under 14% rise.. a few more peanuts! I've just had to check to see if it was a mistake.
Me and my wife are in the Zoo industry.
Every sympathy for those who haven't but everyone in a role for under 5-8 years can obtain scale point rises every year. On a the highest non-management grade (7) this is a pay rise of £10k from ~£31k to ~£41k in 8 years: https://www.rcn.org.uk/employment-an...scales-2017-18. The idea it's dependent on anything is codswallop - it's given automatically in virtually every scenario.
Regardless of recent changes, the State final salary pension is still far better than most would ever be able to afford.
Looking at the UK stats, the advantage of State employment has been eroded by government pay restraint but it's by no means a worse option than private sector for most. There's many reasons to prefer private sector over State, but pay/benefits certainly isn't a major one in my own experience unless you have major personal skillset/bargaining power or are at senior executive level.
Last edited by Scepticalist; 17th April 2018 at 12:53.
Just over 20%, but that was the result of a meaningful promotion.
If we’re taking promotion into account 31% last year.
2% yay
Self employed, with no increase to charge out rates since 2009.
With the recent changes to the dividend rules, I now effectively earn less than I did 9 years ago.
Ditto.... no change on the top line for 3 years now BUT increased taxation has seen quite a drop on the bottom line :-(Self employed. Zero pay rise...
Yep.... know what you mean. It used to be each year my tax return was scratch (nothing owed either way). For the last few years I've always ended up owing the IRS quite a sizeable lump :-(
6.7% in finance
Sorry but that is completely incorrect. Automatic incremental rises were phased out years ago. In my grade there's a minimum and maximum salary, I'm near the bottom and there's no mechanism whatsoever to move up it. So there are lots of people earning many thousands more than me for doing the same job purely because they were around before progression was abolished.
Same here. I’ve not even increased our charges for work we do. Being a director and being paid mainly in dividends, my personal tax payments are on the up. This year will be the worse. Taxed after the first £2K of dividends. Last year I’m pretty sure it was after the first £5k and before that a lot, lot more. Oh well, at least I can rest easy that my tax payments will be spent wisely by our government. Not!
Not bad at all.
I am also in the offshore game, no pay rise for 4 years but instead a 20% pay CUT for the last 2 years. Plus a freeze on bonuses and seniority increments.
So p***d off but the jobs are just not out there. It's slowly picking up but painfully slowly.
Where? Still in force in some areas.
It's just a matter of time...
Agreed, but some people aren't great at their jobs and get incremental and inflation increased pay due to their role and the banding structure - whereas I simply agree/negotiate a fee, or an annual amount for a particular task/role.
It's just a matter of time...
0% again. Same as the past few years.
I'm in DWP. We're also one of the three lowest paying Departments :(
1.98% (I think) but to be honest It's not something I think about as my academic contract allows me to do consultancy and once I've added on 30 days of that a year plus other stuff with various one off payments, it neither here or there.
Civil Servant so 1% again
I`m in the fortunate position of having a company pension, we get a rise roughly in line with inflation every year and it isn`t even performance-related! Only drawback is having to be fairly old to receive it, I`d love to be 15 years younger again.
Rest of my income is investment-related and that seems to drop every year, but without taking more risk there's not much I can do about it.
I sympathise with those who are working but getting poorer each year, it's wrong. I had a few years of that in the latter stages of my career and it does nothing for motivation whatsoever.
Best advice I can give is to hang in there and try to invest any spare money into a savings/pension for when you 'escape', easier said than done thesedays.
Paul
Except I worked in an NHS grade until last year and got the last in my increments just before I left. No appraisal. No interview. No training. Just an automatic rise every year for 8 years.
Every other person I know in various govt areas is similar so I think the enforcement of that policy is local to you not government as a whole. I'd go further and get the union involved if that's genuinely their policy. As far as I know they have to give a reason for refusal if you can demonstrate progress against appraisal targets
Last edited by Scepticalist; 17th April 2018 at 18:01.
It’s applicable to the Civil Service, NHS, Local Authorities etc totally different. Each has their own pay systems.
3% base pay rise, bonus up 20%. Work in Finance.
Posting Permissions