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    Smiths Everest PRS-25

    I am looking to buy a PRS-25 however on the timefactors website they are showing as “out of stock”. Does anyone know if there will be any more produced this year (2018) as I would love it to be a birth year watch for my newly born son?

    Thanks guys.


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    Only one guy knows.

    eddie@timefactors.com

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    And he recently said that there won't be for the time being; something to do with the costs for it being driven too high atm, iirc.

    Sorry, can't remember on which thread he posted that, but am pretty sure it was on this subforum

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    See post *36 here .
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    Having just bought a Seafire, which is an excellent watch and caught the "Eddie" bug, I am quite certain I might get one of these. However, I too would have preferred a smaller watch, about 38mm.

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    Finally a sapphire crystal!

    The only reason I sold my last one was because the crystal kept getting scratched.

    Good stuff Eddie!

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    Presumably the flatter sapphire will reduce the thickness a mm or two?

    The diameter going up 1mm from 40mm to 41mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Presumably the flatter sapphire will reduce the thickness a mm or two?

    The diameter going up 1mm from 40mm to 41mm
    It's not flat, it's hi-dome "box" crystal.

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    Will the hands be any longer Eddie?

    Any idea of release date or approximate price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Presumably the flatter sapphire will reduce the thickness a mm or two?

    The diameter going up 1mm from 40mm to 41mm
    Quote Originally Posted by OldHooky View Post
    Will the hands be any longer Eddie?

    Any idea of release date or approximate price?
    While the case diameter has increased, the bracelet/strap size has decreased from 22mm to 20mm. The seconds hand looks shorter, on mine it extends to the minute/seconds track.


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    Don't get a PRS29b....i did and now i want the Everest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    The diameter going up 1mm from 40mm to 41mm
    That's going the wrong way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MurrayMint View Post
    That's going the wrong way.
    Yes, I’m with you. Shorter L2L would be on my wish list too.


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    Hello all. A recent happy birthday email from TZ-UK reminded me I'm a member here, so have been catching up. I spotted this intriguing thread about an updated Everest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    The diameter going up 1mm from 40mm to 41mm
    Not so sure this is correct. I may be wrong but looking at the renderings the case doesn’t look to be over twice the width of the strap. I think the stated dimension of 41mm may be the overall width including the crown. Depending how you read it the dial size of 32mm is also smaller than the previous version.

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    Thanks for all the replies, especially Eddies. That went from disappointment to delight! I look forward to finding out when it will be released.


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    Could someone explain this whole Time Factors thing - would love to get a Smiths Everest but can't see them for sale anywhere on the net, and not on the Time Factors page on here? Is TF somehow linked to TZ? Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidj54 View Post
    Could someone explain this whole Time Factors thing - would love to get a Smiths Everest but can't see them for sale anywhere on the net, and not on the Time Factors page on here? Is TF somehow linked to TZ? Thanks in advance.
    If you read this very thread, their current and future availability will become clear to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    If you read this very thread, their current and future availability will become clear to you.
    Ah, you'd think I'd have the common sense to do that first, wouldn't you? Cheers 👍

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    Sapphire is a great idea.
    Another would be a different movement from the Miyota used last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James_ View Post
    Another would be a different movement from the Miyota used last time.
    Seconded again! I’m sorry if I sound over critical. I really wanted to love mine but that rotor really grates.


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    Looks nice, smaller would have been good. Thumbs up for the 20mm lugs. Also interested in the movement and price..

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    Quote Originally Posted by James_ View Post
    Sapphire is a great idea.
    Another would be a different movement from the Miyota used last time.
    Quote Originally Posted by lughugger View Post
    Seconded again! I’m sorry if I sound over critical. I really wanted to love mine but that rotor really grates.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenko View Post
    Looks nice, smaller would have been good. Thumbs up for the 20mm lugs. Also interested in the movement and price..

    9015, according to post #5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    9015, according to post #5.
    Oops, missed that.

    Thanks for pointing it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    9015, according to post #5.
    No change then


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    Quote Originally Posted by magirus View Post
    9015, according to post #5.
    Oh aye. Thanks I missed that too.

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    9015 is a great care free movement for everyday use and abuse, perfect for a real tool watch.
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks View Post
    9015 is a great care free movement for everyday use and abuse, perfect for a real tool watch.
    You’re quite right, of course. But I want the sun, the moon and the stars!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks View Post
    9015 is a great care free movement for everyday use and abuse, perfect for a real tool watch.
    Not perfect at all as other people have mentioned.

    Only thing close to perfect would be a quartz and that's probably why it's being used in the new PRS18Q.

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    This thread is pure evil. I had a Smiths Everest and couldn't get on with the bracelet and the central links just made the watch case feel too long for my liking, so it went.

    Then reading this thread made me want another of the old ones with acrylic crystal before they all disappear and the new sapphire crystal model comes out.

    Anyway, managed to snag one and put it straight on a Brady Sailcloth Strap and the result is superb, looks and feels a completely different watch. The bracelet can just stay in the wardrobe.

    Last edited by Wallasey Runner; 20th March 2018 at 21:27.

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    The bracelet was the reason I sold mine about 4 years ago.

    Reading through this has made me want to try again on a Hirsch!

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    I had a TSS Titan brown leather waiting for mine when it arrived in December 2011, the bracelet came straight off and has been in the case with stickers on ever since.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Velorum View Post
    The bracelet was the reason I sold mine about 4 years ago.

    Reading through this has made me want to try again on a Hirsch!
    I wore mine on a Hirsch Liberty, although I never wore it on the Bracelet it did look well made.

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    At the time I tired mine on a Darleena I think. It was quite thick and bulky, well for my taste anyway. I think a thinner strap such as my now favourite, Hirsch Duke might work well.

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    Are 9015 still so cheap that it's better to buy a replacement than bothering to have them serviced? (I recall seeing micros recommend that path)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Are 9015 still so cheap that it's better to buy a replacement than bothering to have them serviced? (I recall seeing micros recommend that path)
    Are they that cheap? I thought that might be the case with the 8215.

    Citizen/Miyota are a conservative company, they only released the 9015 when they were absolutely sure it was as reliable as the 8215, so leaving it for 10 years isn't really an issue, it will keep on running fine.
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks View Post
    Are they that cheap? I thought that might be the case with the 8215.

    Citizen/Miyota are a conservative company, they only released the 9015 when they were absolutely sure it was as reliable as the 8215, so leaving it for 10 years isn't really an issue, it will keep on running fine.
    £73.50 from cousins

    https://m.cousinsuk.com/sku/watch-mo...=1518608150259

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Ta.

    Plus, in my case, the money for a good watchmaker to put it in........;)
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    The original case width across 3-9 was 41mm according to the drawing. Mine has recently departed to a more deserving home so I can't check.


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    I was quoting from the text underneath that picture

    316L stainless steel, brushed top with polished sides
    Diameter 40mm, 44mm including crown
    Lug to lug height 49.8mm
    14.5mm to the top of the hi-dome crystal
    Lug spacing 22mm
    Anti-magnetic 4800 A/m
    Water Resistance 10ATM/100 metres/330 feet
    165 grammes including bracelet
    Screw back, screw down crown, drilled lugs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    I was quoting from the text underneath that picture

    Apologies for any misunderstanding. My post was trying to explain that the information Eddie posted above could be interpreted as showing that the new watch is smaller than the old one not larger. The two sizes of 20mm lugs and 41mm width do not appear to tally with the images.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imbrex View Post
    The two sizes of 20mm lugs and 41mm width do not appear to tally with the images.
    Agree, I just scaled the original image and the new image in a graphics editor.

    The new graphic, scaled to have L2L of 50mm, ends up with 22mm lugs.

    Two options: The new graphic is not correct, or the new specs are not correct.

    Personally would guess that the specs on the new watch will be the same as the old, apart from the sapphire crystal.

    Here is an overlay of the two graphics, both scaled to have correct L2L (~49.9 for the old image, 50.0 for the new)

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    Personally would guess that the specs on the new watch will be the same as the old, apart from the sapphire crystal.
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    Smiths Everest PRS-25

    Specs as original with the addition of a saphire crystal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhed18 View Post
    Agree, I just scaled the original image and the new image in a graphics editor.
    Thank’s, that clears thing up, no change in size then.

    I could see something wasn’t quit right, case width or lug width had to be wrong. I wasn’t sure about the lug length as they looked proportionately longer than the old watch. I can now see this is because the lug ends are straight on the new renderings but curved/slanted on the old watch. Interestingly the original drawings also show straight lug ends.

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    Any votes for a smaller 36mm Version D?

    ben_nevis.jpg

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    I love the Everest.

    Just attached a nice vintage Riviera strap to my 25. I usually wear it on the bracelet, but I'm quite liking this combo.

    What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by senraw View Post
    I love the Everest.

    Just attached a nice vintage Riviera strap to my 25. I usually wear it on the bracelet, but I'm quite liking this combo.

    What do you think?

    It looks really good. I've had mine on a dark brown Titan from TSS from the day it arrived, the bracelet is unworn with the stickers still attached. I know that black dial/brown strap is an accepted "classic" combination, but IMHO the Everest is a watch that suits it perfectly. I do sometimes put it on a Nato for a change.
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    Keep waiting for the email notice that these are available. Looks great.

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    I’ve had mine 6/7 years now still love it. It’s probably my most worn watch. Definitely one Eddies finest


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