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    What the hell is/was this?

    My Mum’s dog ran off into the woods today , and came back with this in his mouth ...



    It looks like something out of Jurassic Park!

    For reference, he is a big dog (English Pointer) and they are in SW France.

    And he wasn't gone long enough to have eaten it, which begs another question...
    Last edited by hhhh; 11th February 2018 at 15:33.

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    Peacock?

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    Sheep? A better idea of scale and better pic of the skull would help.
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    A few bits missing...

    ...but my guess would be a sheep...



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    Before somebody says it, let’s get ‘slow worm’ out of the way!

    Looking at the teeth, I’d say a Sheep as well.

    Good pick up though, did he want to take it in the car with him on the way back?!

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    My dog once dragged a large decomposing pike out from the rushes at a lake near me, the smell was outrageous.
    I only touched it with my finger/thumb tips but it took days of scrubbing my fingers before the smell disappeared

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    Surely sheep only have a top set of teeth.?

    Some sort of cat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bandylegss View Post
    Surely sheep only have a top set of teeth.?

    Some sort of cat?
    The Lynx Effect ?

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    If it were a sheep, would there not be a large diastema (gap) between the incisors and molars?

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    Fire Demon foetus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanb741 View Post
    Fire Demon foetus?
    Was my first thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickleB View Post
    If it were a sheep, would there not be a large diastema (gap) between the incisors and molars?
    Possibly the the end of the snout - & therefore incisors - are missing ?

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    Last edited by zelig; 11th February 2018 at 17:53.

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    A very small lamb by the looks of it, but isn't it the wrong time of year (maybe not in SW France). Possibly a miscarriaged foetus?

    My dog once dragged a duvet cover out of the big pond near our house. It absolutely stunk of death so I opened it up to find a deceased, 8ft long, golden python and a few rocks.

    I doubt it was dead when it went in the water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob998 View Post
    A very small lamb by the looks of it, but isn't it the wrong time of year (maybe not in SW France). Possibly a miscarriaged foetus?

    My dog once dragged a duvet cover out of the big pond near our house. It absolutely stunk of death so I opened it up to find a deceased, 8ft long, golden python and a few rocks.

    I doubt it was dead when it went in the water.
    That’s a horrible story. Poor thing...

    I’m looking at lambs out the back window of my house, not in France, but lambs are about already.

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    I would give those woods a wide berth in future.


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    Nessy?

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    Fairly sure it's one of these.

    The beak and crest are missing.


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    Whatever it is I bet your Mum's mutt was very proud of itself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooks View Post
    That’s a horrible story. Poor thing...

    I’m looking at lambs out the back window of my house, not in France, but lambs are about already.
    Yeah, wasn't pleasant, like you say, poor thing. Probably just got too big for the owners and they couldn't be arsed taking it to the RSPCA.

    Thought lambs had a few weeks to go yet, but if they're bouncing around round you, fair enough.

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    We have lambs here too.

    I too, thought a small lamb or still born.
    By scale to the dog it does look very small.
    But the teeth don’t look in the best of health which throws me a little.
    Also are lambs born with a full set of teeth?
    I wouldn’t have thought so.

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    Those teeth are certainly from a herbivore, almost certainly a small sheep. You're looking at the side of the head, with the snout facing towards the bottom of the image. The Ramus & Body of the mandible are to the left & the right eye is to the right. The molar teeth of a sheep look like this:



    I suspect the anterior part of the mandible & maxilla are missing/chewed off. Sheep only have lower incisor teeth, no uppers. Interestingly they have the same number of permanent teeth as a human (32)

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    Love this place...

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