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    would it help me sleep

    serious question

    been teetotal my whole life (yes i know...)
    but am having real trouble sleeping, even getting to sleep at all

    would a small whisky at night help me drop off or is this a myth?

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    A large one usually helps me to sleep when having problems.
    Difference being I've been drinking for 40 years.

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    Don't start mate there are other ways

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    Quote Originally Posted by taffytoon
    Don't start mate there are other ways
    Such as a mug of Ovaltine. Or masturbation.

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    You could try nytol, although it makes me feel like I'm hungover the next day, so haven't taken it for a while

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    I wouldn't start drinking scotch to get to sleep - Could be the start on a slippery slope

    I struggle to sleep so I have a routine

    If anything is troubling me I try a think it throughat least an hour before bedtime
    Turn TV off 30 mins before bedtime and put the radio on quietly on Magic FM
    Either spend 15 to 30 mins on PC or reading a book
    When I feel my eyes get heavy, dive into bed and usually I drift off
    I leave radio on because I have Tinnitus and it masks the buzzing


    Good luck mate - Insomnia isn't funny

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    Generally, alcohol disrupts sleep, making it less 'refreshing'. A single drink, however, may help some people get off to sleep.

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    I don't have the answer to your problem.

    That is a bad idea.

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    How much tea and coffee do you drink? Too much caffeine in your system can keep you awake. A good brisk walk in the evenings can help you sleep and it helps the circulation and metabolism. Relaxation exercises can help you sleep ... try some deep breathing whilst concentrating on something pleasant and imagine yourself happy and smiling and enjoying it - whatever or wherever it is.

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    I always read a really boring book in bed for half an hour before turning off the light.

    Works every time.
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    Re: would it help me sleep

    cut down on coffee
    take long walk 2 hours before sleep
    watch only pleasant tv programs :wink:
    donw use alcohol it never solves any issues just creates more
    use herbal meds like valeriana

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    Make sure you bedroom is cooler than your living quarters. Open a window, say an hour before you go to bed.

    Take some valeriana tea (as suggested by raptor) or camomile tea. As directed on packet.

    Always turn your bedtime clock around so that you can't see the time. It makes you more anxious when can't sleep and you keep watching the clock.

    Try to relax before going to bed and try not to make it a big issue that triggers panic.

    Good luck

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    Book a week by the seaside.

    Sea air seems to send a lot of people into sleep mode.

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    In the short-term I have used Nytol with success (there are herbal versions as well) but it is a short-term solution only. If the problem persists or has been going on for a while it would be worth seeing your GP. I would agree with others that alcohol will not provide the solution. I have also found that reading something like a deeply technical manual can also persuade my brain that sleep is suddenly a very attractive option.

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    I can send you a CD of my Mrs that often has the desired effect on me :-) Or watching Man City play

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    Two suggestions from my end if I may...

    Melatonin - as it prompts you circadian rhythm into recognising that it's time for bed.
    If you have an iPhone or iPod there are apps that can aid you in falling asleep.

    I travel a lot and work odd hours so my sleep cycles are often out of whack. One app that I downloaded is called Pzizz Sleep and it works a treat.

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    You might consider a lavender and hops pillow as aid to sound sleep.

    http://www.lavenderbag.co.uk/

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    Masturbation normally does the trick, great way to unwind.... :lol:

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    I took Zopiclone for a short time - whilst it makes you pass out, you certainly do not feel refreshed. I now live with the fact that sleep is a problem, but occassionally do miss out on a days work when I am so tired I know that I should not drive. Even speech is slurred!

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    Putting aside any psychological influences, the single most significant thing that affects my sleep is food intake.
    I've found it's a balancing act, like filling a glass. If I've eaten normally all day with normal amounts of exercise, then taking in large amounts of calories just before bed will keep me awake.
    If I've eaten nothing all day but have been working hard, then taking in large amounts of calories just before bed will send me to sleep.

    Similar issue with liquids.

    The next most influential thing for me is temperature, which again is a balancing act solved by using different Tog combination duvets and time controlled heated under blanket, depending on the season and bedroom temperature.

    And finally, external noise changes and lighting changes, which can be resolved with foam earplugs and thick or black-out curtains.

    All of these work for me.

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    I've never had any alcohol either. The thing which affects my sleep the most is, rather obviously, caffeine. It takes a full two days to clear it out of my system, and then with more physical activity I can restore a normal sleeping pattern.

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    Serious answer -

    During the summer months last year I had real trouble sleeping. A small (single) measure of a good whisky in a long glass of spring water at bed time worked wonders. Never woke up with a dry mouth, went off to sleep really easily.

    A good bottle lasts an age when you're only drinking at that rate and I've barely had any whisky since then so it's not habit-forming.

    My tipple at the time was Bushmills Malt. It's worth a try I say 8)

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    Try reading the Blue Sub thread before turning in...

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    Quote Originally Posted by aliasrichmond
    Try reading the Blue Sub thread before turning in...
    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ... Good one!

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    Valerian

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    Definitely speak to your GP - whisky is not the answer (and this coming from a dedicated whisky fan!) Hope you get it sorted, I know how debilitating insomnia can be.
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    Re: would it help me sleep

    Alcohol keeps me awake - most things keep me awake - I find it hard to sleep and through the week get up maybe two or three nights for a few hours.

    I've tried most things and found a glass of milk about 40 mins before bed worked better than all but prescribed sleeping tablets.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    Quote Originally Posted by Neil.C
    I always read a really boring book in bed for half an hour before turning off the light.

    Works every time.
    I find technical manuals the answer reading on the laptop or an actual manual it has the same effect. Land of Nod in less then 30 mins. YMMV

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    I drink alcohol so by all accounts should be asleep by this time 00:18hrs, though i have found that since becoming a member of this site i find it is the sales corner that keeps me awake more than anything else.

    You never know what you might miss :lol:

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    Quote Originally Posted by sundial
    Quote Originally Posted by aliasrichmond
    Try reading the Blue Sub thread before turning in...
    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ... Good one!

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    +1 :D

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob777
    Two suggestions from my end if I may...

    Melatonin - as it prompts you circadian rhythm into recognising that it's time for bed.
    Melatonin definitely works for me. 3mg tab at 10.00 pm. Buy off Ebay. I use...
    http://goo.gl/g9cl1

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    A couple of replies on here reminded me of this from "Rogers Profanisaurus":

    RAM sleep n. abbrev. The phase prior to deep sleep. Rapid Arm Movement.

    :lol:

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    I can recommend a leg massager, gets you to sit still, with a cup of mint tea, and massage helps release a few endorhpins.
    Have had zopiclone but its a barbiturate ans so HIGHLY addictive- leave well alone.

    Link to leg massager on amazon

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/HoMedics-FC-...3006736&sr=1-1

    Some folk need to keep their suggestions to the boys room where they belong.

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    would it help me sleep

    I use Kalms, nytol makes me feel a little drugged in the morning.

    You could also try melatonin.
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    I'd like to apologise to the OP, there are always these types on every forum...

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    dr stuarts 'valerian plus' herbal tea. two bags of those in a mug and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Re: would it help me sleep

    You could give autogenic training a try, but will take some time until it works. (Just skip the "wake up" part at the end when you practice in the evening/before going to sleep)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autogenic_training

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    I don't generally have a problem sleeping, but when I am struggling to drift off I use an app called White Noise - it provides background sounds such as waves lapping, distant thunder, rain etc. It really takes my mind off things and helps me relax.

    There are also similar apps/skills out there for Alexa/Google if you have one in your bedroom.

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    I will check out that app.
    Thanks for the help!

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    Don't do screen time before bed. Camomile tea and read a book for half an hour.

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    A good read helps me

    Lee Child - Jack Reacher, is my go to of late

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    Holy thread resurrection! By a foot massager too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil.C View Post
    I always read a really boring book in bed for half an hour before turning off the light.

    Works every time.
    My wife has taken to some odd eyepatch wrap around thing that has small Bluetooth speakers in, she then sets a boring ( there are actually specific boring audio books designed for this ) audiobook that sets her off to sleep, she swears that she has never finished a book yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adella25teshy View Post
    @sestrel

    Which leg massager do you recommend in 2019?

    I'm looking for the best foot and calf massager for some time now and can't make up my mind.

    I mean I was looking through the net and read a bunch of reviews and didn't get smarter. Somehow most reviews don't feel unbiased?

    I came across a different blog. Karen is criticizing the brands. Maybe it's too much for my taste. Anyways her best calf massager page got me thinking. More like I have a bunch of questions.

    Is it worth to buy a Human Touch calf massager? They seem to be the best ones according to amazon reviews.

    Any input is highly appreciated.

    Thanks
    Welcome to the forum. Great first post.

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    Another recommendation for ocean sounds or rain sounds on Alexa.

    Sent from my CLT-L09 using Tapatalk

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    If you're in someones House and they have Alexa, say Alexa play Horror sounds at 3am.

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    Evening:
    Don't eat any big meals after 6-7pm
    Cup of coffee(to help with the workout).
    Physical workout that pretty much exhausts your body.
    (I get my best sleep on Thursday night after 2 hours of training)
    Small protein meal or snack.

    (I also used to put a flight game on the Playstation for 10 minutes of flying through hills and scenery at a slow speed and keep those images in my head when going to sleep. Don't need to do it anymore.)

    Before going to bed:
    Relax(with the partner)/Watch some TV that makes you laugh or smile(together).
    Camomile tea or hot chocolate.
    Make the hot chocolate with milk, it will help you sleep, you could just have warm milk but not too much as it will make you wake up in the middle of the night to go to the toilet.

    While in bed:
    If you have a willing partner have sex, it de-stresses.
    TV(don't watch just listen), or radio set very low and to go off in 30 mins.
    If it's TV put it on Dave or something else with comedy, something to make you smile.
    Or use the smart access to youtube and put on some sleep sounds, search for 'sleep sounds' there's lots of them.
    Basically put your head on the pillow and just listen with your eyes closed.

    Hope it helps.

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    My problem isnít getting off into the land of nod, itís staying there. Last night in bed by 22:45 and more or less straight off but 03:30 this morning and itís wide awake!

    Whenever Iím over in the U.S. Iíll buy a big bottle of sleeping pills to last me a year & Iíll take one if Iím off the next day or over the weekend.

    Iíve tried all the above and never found anything that really works but now and again Iíll get a week or two where Iíll sleep for 7-8 hours per night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K300 View Post

    While in bed:
    If you have a willing partner have sex, it de-stresses.
    I don't think this is an option for a lot of people on this forum.

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    I watched a tv prog a while ago about "habits".One was about people saying they could not start the day without a coffee,it went on to say the amount of coffee needed to give any noticeable effect would need to be far more than a few coffees,and so does absolutely nothing actually,it's all in people's head + because they've always don't it,same with most habits or things people think make a change.
    As to a whisky before bed!,I'd like to know the real effect on the body as to whether it actually does anything,more likely because people tend to perpetuate this theory when you either have a cold or can't sleep.

    Eitherway I doubt one whisky would have any real benefit tbh.......many more possibly,but then you might wake up with a headache.


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