I am now a convert to no date dials.
No fuss about setting day/date, worrying about damaging the innards because you changed the date around midnight without thinking etc.
Symmetrical, less clutter and easy to read are an added bonus for me.
I am now a convert to no date dials.
No fuss about setting day/date, worrying about damaging the innards because you changed the date around midnight without thinking etc.
Symmetrical, less clutter and easy to read are an added bonus for me.
There’s a lot to be said for classic and uncluttered elegance
That's truly timeless (as it were!).Originally Posted by willie_gunn
There’s a lot to be said for classic and uncluttered elegance
The best time date device is your brain. If you cannot remember what todays date is, then you need to see a doctor.
I hold no views on the appearance issue as I now like the look of dates, days, months and even years.
Liking a date function is fine but needing it denotes you have a problem.
I would be nice if you would save this kind of offensive third-rate braggadocio for the BP.
If you NEED a date function, then without doubt you have memory issues. That is a perfectly acceptable open topic.
If you wish to complain, do it in the BP.
I just checked I have 9 watches,I had no idea untill I gathered and counted them.
1 x HW no date
2 x quartz divers no dates
1 x quartz military navigator no date
1 x auto diver no date
If asked I would say I prefer no date
But on my other 4 watches having a date seems to fit the watch.
The IWC pilot watchI bought recently I was sure would be better without the date,now I think it adds something.yet it’s the biggest complaint people have about the watch.
He made the same comment on one of my recent posts.
So perhaps Mick P needs to see a doctor regarding his memory problem!
Hmmm… I'm sorry, I thought you were a retired purchasing manager for Royal Mail, but it seems I was wrong – you were actually a fully-qualified doctor specialising in memory and brain function. Where did you practise?
In reality, short-term memory lapses such as not knowing the date in a given instance are very common and are usually an indicator of nothing more serious than temporarily forgetting the date. But then, I'm not claiming to be a medical expert on such matters so please see your doctor if this happens on a regular basis.
As per usual, you want an argument for the sheer sake of it and really you should make these comments in the BP where you can throw in a few swear words to spice it up.
Yes it is obvious to anyone over the age of 12 that short term memory losses are normal and usually nothing to worry about. Now if you care to re read what I said, it was - "If you cannot remember what todays date is, then you need to see a doctor". Common sense dictates that if it happens once, then there is no problem, however if you NEED to keep looking at the date because you just cannot remember todays date, then things could be more serious and a visit to the Doctor is advisable. I hope that clears things up. But again you knew this because you said it in your last sentence, so it is just squabbling for the sake of it.
Now please rant back in the BP instead of polluting threads with your petty grudge comments.
Out of interest, prior to you posting this, who stated that they needed a date function?
It was a previous thread where he first wheeled out this line. Perhaps he got confused, and couldn't remember that that was a different thread?
My brain is a bit weird in that I can remember numbers very well (e.g. NI number, credit card, bank accounts, registration of my first car) but I usually forget today's date several times a day. Despite that I prefer no date watches,
except where they have a date dial (not window), which I don't think anyone has mentioned so far. I do have examples of all date, day date and no date watches though.
What's not to like?
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The ND Sub is simplicity personified - I did comment that these would be a great 2 watch collection, just before selling them :)
I do find on many watches the date disrupts the look, whilst on other it can add some interest.
I have date, day-date and non date watches. I like them all very much. I do get the simplicity and symmetry you get from a no date dial. But all dial versions have a place in my small collection.
Agree with this. Even more so with a day-date. Really? You need an instrument to tell you what day it is??!
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Though perhaps not typical, as someone who visits multiple countries and time zones most weeks I can tell you that both day and date sometimes come in remarkably handy.Agree with this. Even more so with a day-date. Really? You need an instrument to tell you what day it is??!
I had a three week stretch recently where I went from Copenhagen to Kenya to the UK to Russia and back again to the UK, and then followed that with a trip to Kuwait. When you travel over weekends as well it is surprisingly easy to lose track, and being able to look up day and date on your watch can then prove oddly reassuring.
If I am somewhere for a few days then the no-date watch comes out.
I think if you lead a typical life working 5 days a week and the weekend off, then you always know what day it is but some people don't live like that and so, the exact day of the week is unimportant to them. The date even less so.Agree with this. Even more so with a day-date. Really? You need an instrument to tell you what day it is??!
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Could be worse as this tells me whether it's day or night on the left subdial... okay, may have had a reason in it's original planned usage but hopefully not for me!
Cheers, Chris
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It's called a complication for a reason - nobody needs to know the day, or the date - you could agree most people don't even need to know the time. How many people need a moon phase? It's there to demonstrate the capability of the movement, the manufacturer more than it is for us to actually use.Agree with this. Even more so with a day-date. Really? You need an instrument to tell you what day it is??!
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Personally I like no date on my 'active' watches (I was lucky to get a Longines Legend Diver ND before they stopped doing them) and the symmetry is appealing, however on a smart watch I like having a date as long as there's also something else on the dial to a company it like a power reserve or sub seconds.
Being retired for more than 4 years now, I can and do wake up and sometimes not know what day it is. That said, I don't really care either.Agree with this. Even more so with a day-date. Really? You need an instrument to tell you what day it is??!
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Thank you.
It appears equally timeless is the ability of black spaniel hairs to get stuck on my white shirts!
Indeed. And even less cluttered with non of that superfluous writing on the dial
Best Regards - Peter
I'd hate to be with you when you're on your own.
Harsh....but fair!Indeed. And even less cluttered with non of that superfluous writing on the dial
For me it varies from watch to watch. Some look stunning without a date, and others I think suit having one. I have both types, and appreciate both types as much really. It's just a very subjective thing I suppose with no correct answer.
Loving it, very classic and clean looking. I need to get one like this one day soon.There’s a lot to be said for classic and uncluttered elegance
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On a very clean looking dial like this Hamilton Intra-Matic of mine a date would spoil it.
However on some of these chunky diver types with script all over them I don't think a date feature detracts at all.
Cheers,
Neil.
Date windows are the work of the Devil! Like a roof box on a Ferrari.
The only upside of having one if you don't like it, is keep in in your collection for a few years until you need reading glasses, when you won't be able to read it anyway and it'll blur into something resembling the 3 marker!
[QUOTE=OldHooky;4575642]Date windows are the work of the Devil! Like a roof box on a Ferrari.
Roof box would look better than this monstrosity!!
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I like my no date watches especially as I rotate and as you say makes setting so much simpler plus half the months you have to adjust for 28/30 days anyway !
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Not if you have a perpetual calender.
None of my current ones had a date.
I really dislike the way date (and even worse, day) windows spoil the symmetry of the dial.
I feel the same way. I wish all my watches where no date. I'm to the point that I don't even set my date.
Agree: in real elegance, "less is more" . . . . . .
When I bought this watch , I was able to try on also the model with Panorama date, and the P'date with moon phase at the same time.
There was a price difference, but that was not the deciding factor. The non-complicated model just looked so elegant and, as it is of course thinner, felt slightly better on the wrist.
Normally, I am a fan of GO's big Panorama date (I have it on the PanoReserve and, hopefully as of tomorrow, will have a second example) -- but on the "Senator Excellence" it just didn't look right.
Agree: in real elegance, "less is more" . . . . . .
I prefer some watches without the date , especially on dress watches .
@Yokel , the Glashutte original is a gorgeous example , simply stunning .
These pictures show just how good no date watches can look. Unfortunately I just can’t get away without a date window.
I would use the date function very rarely, yet all but one of my watches (422) have a date function. Not really through choice, it seems that most models have that complication.
Would love to try a base PAM in the future, when the watch fund has been replenished.
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I really wouldn't recommend to anyone that they make the decision to avoid date windows. I did that when starting out, and oh the limitations it puts on you, especially in modern watches.
Same is true of manuals. The search for a datefree manual with central seconds brings very very few results, unless you go for late sixties / early seventies vintage.
Nice collection there
When I first got into watches I wouldn't consider a watch without date and a bracelet, now my tastes are towards no date and a leather strap, preferring the simpler appearance.
Cheers
Kevin
Many of my vintage watches pre-date (no pun intended) date and day date watches. Here is one that doesn't, but looks lovely to me without.
I have no date, date and day/date watches. I think that if I ever whittled my group right down, and disregarding my Datejust which is my only real keeper, I'd probably end up with a manual wind three hander without a date, most likely a Dornbluth. I really appreciate the ease of winding and setting a manual three hander without date. Meanwhile I do enjoy wearing the no daters I have . . .
F.T.F.A.
I prefer having a date function.
Some watches do suit having no date. Some of the glashutte watches look better without the date. Every now and then I even think my sub would look better without a date.
I NEED a date function; I look at the date many times a day.
I do also have short term memory issues due to a head injury in 1985!
I do like non date watches though.
Edit : I saw many doctors between 1985 and 1990. They couldn’t help me then and I’m pretty sure there’s little point in me seeing one now.
Like others on this thread I started out wanting all my watches to have a date function but over time I’ve come to appreciate more the cleaner design of no date. Here’s mine
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For a watch that I will wear daily (ie, to work), I like to have a date. There's invariably some paperwork or other I need to sign, and it's handy to have a quick glance at the date on my watch. Does that mean I'm retarded? Have to say, I'm a bit worried I'm a simpleton and didn't realise it until now.
Love a no date dial. My daily wear is the Tudor Explorer BB41 and the simplicity and elegance gets me every day. I think it might have actually ruined the Pelagos for me!!
I do accept a date at 6 tho, as long as the window is nicely integrated into the concept.
Funnily enough I never actually set the date on any of my watches, but this is the only one that has no date. Sure to be a favourite ;)
Very classic and good looking dial, is that the 39mm or 36mm Railmaster ?
Neither I'm afraid , it's the 41.5mm model, although it wears smaller at about 40mmm.
No date here, but if you are going to add a date to the watch this is the way to do it.
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