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    Quote Originally Posted by studly View Post
    The Baby Boomers itt... lol


    Hilarious, total market cap of 3M USD and average daily volume of $195k.

    Did you load up at the top? Crashed by 30% since you posted this three business days ago.


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    Anyone offering you a scheme to buy Libra is a fraudster - Libra doesn't exist yet and its launch is not planned before 2020 at the earliest. There is also no way to register for it.

    Just delete the emails and thank me later.
    Much appreciated sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Hilarious, total market cap of 3M USD and average daily volume of $195k.

    Did you load up at the top? Crashed by 30% since you posted this three business days ago.

    What if I was trying to get you to load up? Even though you wouldn’t even know how to load up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jega View Post
    As an absolute novice in such matters i would appreciate any advice regarding the "Libra Method" the face-book backed investment scheme .
    I ask as i am currently being bombarded with offers to register for it and looking at the testimonials it does look very enticing,now i'm not green enough to believe all the hype about profits and returns, but i would appreciate some views from some of the forum members who have experience in these matters .Thanks .

    Looks like the Libra project is on the verge of falling apart. After Paypal announced their exit from the project last week, today's news is that Mastercard, Visa, eBay, Stripe and Mercado Pago are also jumping ship.

    Five companies, led by Mastercard, Visa and eBay, pulled out of Facebook’s planned digital currency Libra on Friday, following sustained political pressure and just days before the project’s backers are due to meet for their first board meeting. The exit of Visa, Mastercard, eBay, Stripe and Mercado Pago came as a major blow to Facebook’s ambitions to shake up the global payments market and follows one week after PayPal announced it was also pulling out of the project. The withdrawals follow intense scrutiny from international regulators and politicians, some of which have called for the project to be halted altogether, citing money laundering concerns and worries about wider financial stability.
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    Just picked up this thread. Any QuadrigaCX investors here? The guy lived about 200 yards from me... I think his widow is still living here. I would have thought there would be a standardized protocol used / required that would allow at least one other person access to accounts instead of just one bloke memorizing a few passwords ....

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    Satoshi has made it onto the latest OED new words list. Credibility doesn't come much stronger than that. Buy, buy, buy...

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    Any OneCoin investors here?


    In The Missing Cryptoqueen, Jamie Bartlett investigates the woman behind OneCoin, a scheme which managed to persuade investors around the world to part with as much as £4bn ($4.9bn). They had bought into the compelling vision of a new kind of money sold by Dr Ruja Ignatova, in a series of events in countries around the world. You can catch a flavour of the mixture of hoopla, hucksterism and blockchain balderdash in a video of her appearance at London's Wembley Arena in 2016. Dr Ignatova - or Dr Ruja to her fans - walks on to "This Girl is on Fire", tells an excited crowd that OneCoin is on course to overtake Bitcoin, and derides "all those Mickey Mouse coins that have copied our concept." Plenty of people were convinced, including one of the stars of the podcast, Jen McAdam from Glasgow. She invested €10,000 herself in the Bulgaria-based scheme and persuaded family members to put in €250,000 - that's about £220,000 at current exchange rates.
    But in 2017, Dr Ruja Ignatova disappeared - and she hasn't been seen since. The investigation by the team behind the podcast has uncovered just how successful OneCoin had been in spreading its message around the world. Internal documents reveal that people in 175 countries invested, with much of the money coming in a six-month period in 2016 when Dr Ruja was on a global tour - including that Wembley appearance. In the UK, £26m was invested in that period, and the podcast team reckons that the total coming from British investors may have been as high as £96m.
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    Lol, that's fantastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Any OneCoin investors here?


    In The Missing Cryptoqueen, Jamie Bartlett investigates the woman behind OneCoin, a scheme which managed to persuade investors around the world to part with as much as £4bn ($4.9bn). They had bought into the compelling vision of a new kind of money sold by Dr Ruja Ignatova, in a series of events in countries around the world. You can catch a flavour of the mixture of hoopla, hucksterism and blockchain balderdash in a video of her appearance at London's Wembley Arena in 2016. Dr Ignatova - or Dr Ruja to her fans - walks on to "This Girl is on Fire", tells an excited crowd that OneCoin is on course to overtake Bitcoin, and derides "all those Mickey Mouse coins that have copied our concept." Plenty of people were convinced, including one of the stars of the podcast, Jen McAdam from Glasgow. She invested €10,000 herself in the Bulgaria-based scheme and persuaded family members to put in €250,000 - that's about £220,000 at current exchange rates.
    But in 2017, Dr Ruja Ignatova disappeared - and she hasn't been seen since. The investigation by the team behind the podcast has uncovered just how successful OneCoin had been in spreading its message around the world. Internal documents reveal that people in 175 countries invested, with much of the money coming in a six-month period in 2016 when Dr Ruja was on a global tour - including that Wembley appearance. In the UK, £26m was invested in that period, and the podcast team reckons that the total coming from British investors may have been as high as £96m.
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    Probably living in a huge mansion somewhere warm with a fake identity. Can’t believe people are that gullible with such large amounts of money. All fuelled by greed.
    Started out with nothing. Still have most of it left.

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    love that song/video.

    Good to hear Libra appears to be coming apart at the seams, the Zuck/Fbook are just not fit and proper entity to be trusted anywhere near 'currency'.

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    C'mon, you can do it, too:


    How I got sucked into the cryptocurrency craze and walked away with $13 million
    On a gray morning in May 2016, I left my office in downtown San Francisco and walked down Montgomery Street, to Wells Fargo. I swiveled open the two gigantic doors, walked up to the counter, and explained to the teller that I needed to send a money wire to Gemini Trust Company, LLC., a cryptocurrency exchange based in New York City. “Certainly,” she said. “How much will you be sending today, Mr. Conway?” “One hundred thousand dollars.”
    My voice sped up as I said it: $100k. This represented my family’s entire life savings. It was money my wife and I planned to use to pay for our 3 kids’ college tuition, our eventual retirement, and emergency expenses. I was a middle-aged guy with a family who had never been on the cutting edge of anything. But I was about to bet everything I had on an unproven virtual currency called Ethereum. This could only end two ways: I’d lose everything I owned, or make a fortune.
    (...) Unfortunately, it wasn’t long before I experienced the Earth-shaking volatility of the crypto market. In June 2016, a high-visibility project was hacked and Ethereum tanked: By December, our original $100k investment was worth less than $40k. Though I was $60k in the hole, my confidence in Ethereum was stronger than ever… and it was now at a bargain-basement-level price. So, I decided to double down. We didn’t have the cash. The only pool of funds available was the line of credit on our home. Racking up a big debt on our home equity line would very likely set us up for an unhappy ending. But I felt in my bones that this was my shot and I might not get another one.
    In December of 2016, I visited Wells Fargo 3 times, transferring an increasing amount of money from our home equity line to Gemini. After each transfer, I went home and bought ETH slowly so I didn’t cause a run-up. (The order books were thin with limited liquidity in those days; a rush of sales could cause the other traders and their bots to snatch up all the available coins.) That winter, I borrowed $200k on my home and used it to buy more ETH. I now owned 26,750 ETH total, at an average buy-in of $11.21/coin. And I was $300k in the hole.
    (...) I watched the price climb to $915. Then, over the course of two hours, I sold 11k ETH, the majority of my remaining stack, for $10m.
    (...) I banked everything I had on a relatively unproven technology and got out at the right time. For every story like mine, there are hundreds of others about people who lost it all. I know that could’ve easily been me. At the same time, I’m no blackjack player. My investment wasn’t purely a blind gamble that came up aces. I was, and am, a true believer in crypto — and I had the right mix of courageousness and craziness to take a big risk.
    The Hustle


    Well then, now you know. You can thank me later (I'll take a very reasonable 5% of your gains).
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    I'm afraid I find the below story hard to believe - it reads like something that was made up to convince people to invest in crypto.

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    Some find it through religion.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b0eb0ef22b13d8

    "Crypto-traders", Rolex watches, Boris Johnson, a church which holds its services at the The Valley and a pastor called George Jumbo. What else could you possibly ask for? (There's even Louboutin shoes in there too.)

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    Agreed. 99% sure that’ll be 99% BS.

    And what an absolute moron, to risk his whole family’s life savings and house (!) on a total gamble. Idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    Agreed. 99% sure that’ll be 99% BS.

    And what an absolute moron, to risk his whole family’s life savings and house (!) on a total gamble. Idiot.

    Lucky it wasn't real then.
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    If you feel that your Rolex watches are a bit financially exposed at the moment, then how about this Franck Muller?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Any OneCoin investors here?


    In The Missing Cryptoqueen, Jamie Bartlett investigates the woman behind OneCoin, a scheme which managed to persuade investors around the world to part with as much as £4bn ($4.9bn). They had bought into the compelling vision of a new kind of money sold by Dr Ruja Ignatova, in a series of events in countries around the world. You can catch a flavour of the mixture of hoopla, hucksterism and blockchain balderdash in a video of her appearance at London's Wembley Arena in 2016. Dr Ignatova - or Dr Ruja to her fans - walks on to "This Girl is on Fire", tells an excited crowd that OneCoin is on course to overtake Bitcoin, and derides "all those Mickey Mouse coins that have copied our concept." Plenty of people were convinced, including one of the stars of the podcast, Jen McAdam from Glasgow. She invested €10,000 herself in the Bulgaria-based scheme and persuaded family members to put in €250,000 - that's about £220,000 at current exchange rates.
    But in 2017, Dr Ruja Ignatova disappeared - and she hasn't been seen since. The investigation by the team behind the podcast has uncovered just how successful OneCoin had been in spreading its message around the world. Internal documents reveal that people in 175 countries invested, with much of the money coming in a six-month period in 2016 when Dr Ruja was on a global tour - including that Wembley appearance. In the UK, £26m was invested in that period, and the podcast team reckons that the total coming from British investors may have been as high as £96m.
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    I listened to the pod cast at last - quite incredible. It sounds like a small con that grew out of control - 110 bn estimated and possibly still running ! Given the people's lives she has changed I expect she is in hiding for her life not enjoying retirement as planned.

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    BTC up around 25% this year - well timed entries can yield epic returns, just super risky compared to other asset classes.

    Anyone else "investing" or "trading" Crypto at the moment?

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    nope - just HODL still since a couple of years ago, floating around at about break even.

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    Make sure you don't forget to declare that profit, because they know where you are. Well, they hope they will before long anyway - https://www.contractsfinder.service....3636cf2f82?p=1

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    Bitcoin

    I bought some ETH, the ass dropped out of it literally a few days later... couldn’t have timed it worse Hahahaha.

    Holding on to them for now... God loves a trier!


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    Quote Originally Posted by T1ckT0ck View Post
    I bought some ETH, the ass dropped out of it literally a few days later... couldn’t have timed it worse Hahahaha.

    Holding on to them for now... God loves a trier!


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    yep, I’m up around 10% on BC and down 75% on ETH. Thankfully some play money. My old work colleague bought his bloody house with Bitcoin profits when he sold around £9k each before the spike and fall - happy days for some :)
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MB2 View Post
    I listened to the pod cast at last - quite incredible. It sounds like a small con that grew out of control - 110 bn estimated and possibly still running ! Given the people's lives she has changed I expect she is in hiding for her life not enjoying retirement as planned.
    I suspect she's made some hungry pigs very happy.

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    How's it goin' for the hodlers? Long and strong?

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    Buy buy buy ;)
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegamanic View Post
    Buy buy buy ;)
    Bye bye

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegamanic View Post
    Buy buy buy ;)
    Because they soon won't be making (m)any more - https://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/

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    Whilst John McAfee's second statement may be open to some debate, I believe that the first will find considerable consensus.

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    Never Ever invest in anything or comment on something you don’t fully understand..


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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveM112 View Post
    Never Ever invest in anything or comment on something you don’t fully understand..


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    There would be very few investments if that was the case.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    bump - what's happened in the last 24hrs?

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    10%+......10%- .....Just a regular day in the crazy world of BTC, isn’t it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cman View Post
    bump - what's happened in the last 24hrs?


    Take your pick.

    https://cointelegraph.com/news/3-mai...nutes-to-8-600

    https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/big...-at-a-premium/

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    For the previous Bitcoin buyers here...I am thinking of getting into Bitcoin in a small way (maybe couple of grand ish) can any users point to a stable and safe platform / exchanges to buy Bitcoin recently? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by vulcangascompany View Post
    For the previous Bitcoin buyers here...I am thinking of getting into Bitcoin in a small way (maybe couple of grand ish) can any users point to a stable and safe platform / exchanges to buy Bitcoin recently? Thanks
    Binance or coinbase are simple enough once you get the hang of them. Binance is cheaper if you intend to buy regular small amounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demonloop View Post
    Binance or coinbase are simple enough once you get the hang of them. Binance is cheaper if you intend to buy regular small amounts.
    Thanks - i'll have a look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Hilarious, total market cap of 3M USD and average daily volume of $195k.

    Did you load up at the top? Crashed by 30% since you posted this three business days ago.




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    See if I get this right: total market cap is 13 Mio USD, of which about 20% (= USD 2.6m) is held by the general public.

    So how many hundreds do you own? Rich anytime soon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post

    So how many hundreds do you own?
    Not enough to buy a Lambo.

    £2k back in March, but I'm balls deep in Chainlink

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    Quote Originally Posted by studly View Post
    Not enough to buy a Lambo.

    £2k back in March, but I'm balls deep in Chainlink
    Best of luck mate.

    I will never understand why cryptocurrencies are expected to show super-high value increase if the main design property is document authentification or some such. Yes, scarcity is part of the security design, but why do I have to expose myself to this volatility if all I want is to document a contract?

    Similarities to Tesla, where I think we have now firmly established that the product is the shares, not the cars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vulcangascompany View Post
    For the previous Bitcoin buyers here...I am thinking of getting into Bitcoin in a small way (maybe couple of grand ish) can any users point to a stable and safe platform / exchanges to buy Bitcoin recently? Thanks
    If you did so back in June, it looks like you timed it well, based upon what's been happening this week / expected to happen in the coming weeks.

    (any know why? pure speculation or...?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cman View Post
    If you did so back in June, it looks like you timed it well, based upon what's been happening this week / expected to happen in the coming weeks.

    (any know why? pure speculation or...?)
    Well, on Friday BTC closed within 1% of where it closed when vgc posted on 14 June.

    It traded about 4% higher over this weekend, which takes extremely small volume to achieve, so before you celebrate that I would wait for tomorrow.

    And maybe you could enlighten me what it is that is 'expected to happen in the coming weeks'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cman View Post
    If you did so back in June, it looks like you timed it well, based upon what's been happening this week / expected to happen in the coming weeks.

    (any know why? pure speculation or...?)
    Mainly gone sideways for me, a small profit from last few days. Thats OK its a small long term punt in the dark for me. It might follow gold/silver (??) in the coming weeks if shares top out and investors are looking for other options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cman View Post
    (any know why? pure speculation or...?)
    One hypothesis - containing 'two main reasons'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Well, on Friday BTC closed within 1% of where it closed when vgc posted on 14 June.

    It traded about 4% higher over this weekend, which takes extremely small volume to achieve, so before you celebrate that I would wait for tomorrow.

    And maybe you could enlighten me what it is that is 'expected to happen in the coming weeks'?
    Not holding Bitcoin, not planning to celebrate anything - what made you think I was?

    As for what is 'expected to happen' - no idea - just a lot of noise around at the moment re: a rally, per petethegeek 's post above. The last line of my post may have given away I am none the wiser, hence the question around speculation or news or facts or...
    Last edited by cman; 26th July 2020 at 17:06.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cman View Post
    Not holding Bitcoin, not planning to celebrate anything - what made you think I was?

    As for what is 'expected to happen' - no idea - just a lot of speculation around at the moment re: a rally, per petethegeek 's post above. The last line of my post may have given away I am none the wiser, hence the question.
    I didn't think you were holding bitcoin, what made you think I was?

    You wrote that it was a good move based on what has happened and is expected to happen - I was wondering if you wanted to share what is expected to happen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by petethegeek View Post
    One hypothesis - containing 'two main reasons'.
    I'd say the simultaneous slump of altcoins is a strong hint that there is market manipulation going on. Suppose somebody bought it up in order to sell to expected stops above 10,000. Nice job on a weekend. We will see over the next days of there is any follow through buying or if it collapses from here.

    Oh, and the article confuses long and short positions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffe View Post
    Oh, and the article confuses long and short positions.
    Did you click through to Joseph's summary cv by any chance?

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