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    following on, my mate and i hold crypto and discuss crypto, we got to considering how many 68 & 69 year olds would hold crypto or know what it is , we did a quick poll in the pub and there were some 40 year olds who had never heard of crypto! and no one owned any!, not scientific i know but. so question are we astute old gits or suckers for a scam ?you know anybody 70 ish holding crypto?👍

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    ^^ you’re just early

    I’m 46, friends of all occupations and incomes. Probably 20k pa to 100k pa

    Only two of them holding any crypto, one on my encouragement. I’d say half have barely heard of it

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    My Dad asked me to buy him £1000 of Bitcoin over Christmas, out of the blue!

    He’s 82.

    Turns out he’s been subscribed to some online finance newsletter that sometimes has articles about BTC and crypto miners etc. He was very clued up when we had a chat about it, I was impressed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr noble View Post
    My Dad asked me to buy him £1000 of Bitcoin over Christmas, out of the blue!

    He’s 82.

    Turns out he’s been subscribed to some online finance newsletter that sometimes has articles about BTC and crypto miners etc. He was very clued up when we had a chat about it, I was impressed!
    hope you bought it , he will be in profit ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitch1956 View Post
    hope you bought it , he will be in profit ?
    Absolutely!

    Sadly PayPal have stopped allowing UK users to buy it. That would have been the easiest way. So I had to use my Coinbase account and am now worried about telling him that he’s going to have to pay 20% CGT on any profits.

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    i’ve got a couple of grand in bitcoins via crypto.com which are doing very nicely, only problem is being a bit of a numpty i’ve got no idea how to take the money out if i want to as you can’t seem to just withdraw it to a bank account , i tried to take it out a few months ago, glad i didnt now as they are on the up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie169 View Post
    i’ve got a couple of grand in bitcoins via crypto.com which are doing very nicely, only problem is being a bit of a numpty i’ve got no idea how to take the money out if i want to as you can’t seem to just withdraw it to a bank account , i tried to take it out a few months ago, glad i didnt now as they are on the up
    Withdraw to a hardware wallet, Ledger etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie169 View Post
    i’ve got a couple of grand in bitcoins via crypto.com which are doing very nicely, only problem is being a bit of a numpty i’ve got no idea how to take the money out if i want to as you can’t seem to just withdraw it to a bank account , i tried to take it out a few months ago, glad i didnt now as they are on the up
    Open a Coinbase account and transfer the funds to that. You can then cash out and withdraw to a bank account, card or PayPal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie169 View Post
    i’ve got a couple of grand in bitcoins via crypto.com which are doing very nicely, only problem is being a bit of a numpty i’ve got no idea how to take the money out if i want to as you can’t seem to just withdraw it to a bank account , i tried to take it out a few months ago, glad i didnt now as they are on the up
    hi, i have the crypto.com app on my phone, i have withdrawn fiat to my revolut account, with no issue, to be fair i add to the app via the revolut account too. but it should be possible to withdraw to a bank account
    https://help.crypto.com/en/articles/...ry-withdrawals

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    Nice little lift overnight

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    Quote Originally Posted by demonloop View Post
    Nice little lift overnight
    Yes, pleasant indeed! I’m sure it won’t last though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyons View Post
    Yes, pleasant indeed! I’m sure it won’t last though!
    According to the oracles on Twitter we will get past 60k before a correction. Time will tell!

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    At the rate the ETF's are buying Bitcoin it will not stop going up anytime soon, the demand is massively outstripping supply at the moment and the supply is about to half in 52 days, think about that.

    6 green monthly candles in a row for Bitcoin, that is a new record
    Last edited by Vanguard; 28th February 2024 at 14:06.

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    Not far off the all time high, let’s see where it goes from here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Not far off the all time high, let’s see where it goes from here.
    Even higher, up 38% for this year alone and we're not even at the halving yet.

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    Lamborghinis all round!

    Well a round of Lambrinis at least :)
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Very nice

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    65k ticked off, and the ETFs will be hoovering up from now until Friday.

    Happy days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard View Post
    Even higher, up 38% for this year alone and we're not even at the halving yet.
    All of which is only relevant if selling and if you brought alot cheaper and have a decent profit margin. Not forgetting HMRC's 40%
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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    Not forgetting HMRC's 40%
    CGT rates are not 40% in the UK

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    Still waiting to see the Lambos and mansions or even would like to see anyone who brought a coin at £6k and its now worth £65k and they actually sold it and got the cash.

    Instead it always seems to be a frenzy of publicity when up and radio silence when down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post

    Instead it always seems to be a frenzy of publicity when up and radio silence when down.
    You could reasonably say the same about any investment. Stocks, precious metals etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demonloop View Post
    You could reasonably say the same about any investment. Stocks, precious metals etc.
    Ah but not Houses in the UK, very much in the news whether up, down or sideways, the exception to the rule.


    ´´This time next year Rodders!´´
    Last edited by Passenger; 4th March 2024 at 12:00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demonloop View Post
    You could reasonably say the same about any investment. Stocks, precious metals etc.
    Not really. Shove it in ISA or Prem bonds and get 4.7%. Safe and sound.

    I dont do S&S as just do not need to gamble
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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    Not really. Shove it in ISA or Prem bonds and get 4.7%. Safe and sound.

    I dont do S&S as just do not need to gamble
    Weren´t you quite pro the coin back in the early days though, do seem to recollect that...apologies IF I´m mixing my monkeys...

    Yeah was you back around early 2018.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger View Post
    Ah but not Houses in the UK, very much in the news whether up, down or sideways, the exception to the rule.


    ´´This time next year Rodders!´´
    I did purposely exclude housing from my illustration :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by demonloop View Post
    I did purposely exclude housing from my illustration :-)
    Fair do´s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passenger View Post
    Weren´t you quite pro the coin back in the early days though, do seem to recollect that...apologies IF I´m mixing my monkeys...

    Yeah was you back around early 2018.
    Yep had a go as part of a portfolio and it was the least performing aspect with the highest risk and most complexity. So from experience not one for me. At the time an option due to low interest rates and a need to make money work but no longer an option for me personally.

    My only concern is painting it to be the messiah of wealth and others being burned through ignorance or greed
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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    Yep had a go as part of a portfolio and it was the least performing aspect with the highest risk and most complexity. So from experience not one for me. At the time an option due to low interest rates and a need to make money work but no longer an option for me personally.

    My only concern is painting it to be the messiah of wealth and others being burned through ignorance or greed
    When I first bought in it went from 10k to 4k, so you're not alone in seeing a drop or two

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    ... or Prem bonds and get 4.7% ...
    <update>... 4.40%, variable ...</update>

    https://www.nsandi.com/products/premium-bonds

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    Average Pete

    4.7% on an ISA drops a few quid a month into the bank nicely and luck on the bonds has seen me have closer to 6% rolling
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    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    ... as just do not need to gamble
    Quote Originally Posted by 100thmonkey View Post
    ... and luck on the bonds has seen me have closer to 6% rolling
    :-)

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    well currently £1800 up, first time ahead in 3-4 years , my only problem now is the bloody complex crypto self assessment tax return you are now not only mandated/ required to do in uk and back date it !! GRRR
    ps far more than i have won on PB in last two years with max amount in!
    Last edited by mitch1956; 4th March 2024 at 14:01.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petethegeek View Post
    :-)
    Original funds not at risk in PBs, only the risk of not winning/increasing

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    Quote Originally Posted by demonloop View Post
    Original funds not at risk in PBs, only the risk of not winning/increasing
    And if that £50k didnt perform id drop it into something that did.

    Could of been worse lads, you could have speculated in Rolex, AP, & Patek.
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    I don't have any coins, my work colleague and his friend (both in their early 20's) have a fair amount it, his friend has been putting in £400 a week for the last 2-3 years, not in bitcoin but smaller coins, after 2 years of feeling drab he's pretty confident on it going to £75k or more once the halving happens. If that happens he will do very well, his friend extremely well. At their age it just is a normal thing to do, and they are happy gambling on coins, at my age (41) I just can't take the risk, if I had more spare money I might do.

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    Hello there 71k

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    It'll be disappointing to not get to 75k by close of trading Friday

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    Breaking: Microstrategy raises $800m to buy more Bitcoin

    30 minutes later

    Breaking: Microstrategy has acquired 12000 BTC for $821m

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    BlackRock also

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    Quote Originally Posted by demonloop View Post
    Breaking: Microstrategy raises $800m to buy more Bitcoin

    30 minutes later

    Breaking: Microstrategy has acquired 12000 BTC for $821m
    That will being his average price per coin up quite a bit ... incredible people keep piling in ...

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    It's all a scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montello View Post
    That will being his average price per coin up quite a bit ... incredible people keep piling in ...
    SEC Form 8-K submission February 26, 2024
    ... As of February 25, 2024, MicroStrategy, together with its subsidiaries, held an aggregate of approximately 193,000 bitcoins, which were acquired at an aggregate purchase price of approximately $6.09 billion and an average purchase price of approximately $31,544 per bitcoin, inclusive of fees and expenses.

    SEC Form 8-K submission March 11, 2024
    ... As of March 10, 2024, MicroStrategy, together with its subsidiaries, held an aggregate of approximately 205,000 bitcoins, which were acquired at an aggregate purchase price of approximately $6.91 billion and an average purchase price of approximately $33,706 per bitcoin, inclusive of fees and expenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petethegeek View Post
    SEC Form 8-K submission February 26, 2024
    ... As of February 25, 2024, MicroStrategy, together with its subsidiaries, held an aggregate of approximately 193,000 bitcoins, which were acquired at an aggregate purchase price of approximately $6.09 billion and an average purchase price of approximately $31,544 per bitcoin, inclusive of fees and expenses.

    SEC Form 8-K submission March 11, 2024
    ... As of March 10, 2024, MicroStrategy, together with its subsidiaries, held an aggregate of approximately 205,000 bitcoins, which were acquired at an aggregate purchase price of approximately $6.91 billion and an average purchase price of approximately $33,706 per bitcoin, inclusive of fees and expenses.
    Amazing, so if BTC returns to its Dec 22 level they will be $3.5B down …

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    If it doesn't.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveya. View Post
    If it doesn't.....

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    Moon, obvs …

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    Excellent news

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    Quote Originally Posted by demonloop View Post
    It'll be disappointing to not get to 75k by close of trading Friday
    I said this tongue in cheek, but it's looking more likely than not

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    What are people’s sell targets? Just interested in what level people would be willing to sell at and the thinking behind it.

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    Looking at the chart the obvious resistance is $80k. From a technical standpoint there is no reason to sell until then, it's at all time highs and finding its next level.

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