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    selling watches

    Need to sell a few watches as part of my exit plan, fed up with Sc, can't be arsed with eBay. Whats the next port of call? watchfinder? grateful for any advice. cheers dave
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Where you exiting to Davo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    Where you exiting to Davo?
    you mean physically or metaphysically?
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Whats wrong with SC Dave?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    you mean physically or metaphysically?
    Both.
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    Watchfinder only for £1000 pieces, otherwise I'd go with eBay if you're really fed up with SC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    Both.
    Kids are growing up, there's a few things i want to do before I die. Might as well get on with it while I've still got my own teeth.
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Can't help with an alternate sales platform (I tend to use eBay) but am intrigued as to where you are exiting to metaphysically.

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    I wasn’t that impressed with quotes from either Watchfinder or Iconic but they would pay something for a couple of watches that didn’t attract any attention on SC.
    Just depends on how fast you want to be and how far from perceived value you are prepared to go for quicker sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsgotournameonit View Post
    Whats wrong with SC Dave?
    Nothing wrong with it. Maybe I'm just a bit jaded. So many people minding each other's business these days
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    SC is a different setup to the classifieds on TRF, there you can’t comment unless you are the OP. I enjoy the community, and SC is great to observe or buy from, but I have to agree that a lot of comments are not helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Nothing wrong with it. Maybe I'm just a bit jaded. So many people minding each other's business these days
    Just ignore the vocal minority!

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    Probably a rubbish suggestion but I’ve sold quite a few through a local jewellers, told them what I’m looking for and left it to them.
    Worked well for both parties, just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barryw View Post
    Probably a rubbish suggestion but I’ve sold quite a few through a local jewellers, told them what I’m looking for and left it to them.
    Worked well for both parties, just a thought.
    great suggestion, I'm going into a local dealers on saturday anyway to get some work done, i will have a word with them. thanks, i didn't even think of that!
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Kids are growing up, there's a few things i want to do before I die. Might as well get on with it while I've still got my own teeth.
    Amen Davo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Whats the next port of call? watchfinder?
    Definitely for the G10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Definitely for the G10
    That ones a keeper :))
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    great suggestion, I'm going into a local dealers on saturday anyway to get some work done, i will have a word with them. thanks, i didn't even think of that!
    The only downside I could see is how specialised our watches tend to be on the forum, may not appeal to many. Well my collection anyway!
    Last edited by barryw; 31st October 2017 at 22:39.

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    I wouldn’t discount any sales medium if you really wanted to sell and maximise your liquidation. There is selling to put funds to a better use, and taking the piss - I’m sure anyone that knows you will know the difference.
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Nothing wrong with it. Maybe I'm just a bit jaded. So many people minding each other's business these days
    I know what you mean about the 'busy bodies' on SC but a well-presented sales post with facts and decent pictures tends not to attract too many idiots.
    As an alternative, how about the sales section of WUS? They don't allow replies. Depends how you feel about posting internationally I suppose.

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    Do SC threads for cheaper things attract commentary? I just went through my six sales, and across all six threads there was just one single comment before the OHPF posts (Steppy kindly saying it was a good price)

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    I've found Watchfinder good for more expensive items, but they tend to offer far better deals for trade against something else than they do for a straight cash sale. I am sure things might be different for some of the hot watches that they have buyers waiting for.

    SC is still good, but there just aren't too many people buying at the moment. I have found a well written post with tons of detail and nice clear images doesn't give the tar and feathers brigade much to get excited about.

    e-bay is still good for the £100 to £500 type watches, Seiko, Steinhart, Orient etc etc.

    It is an effort getting rid of stuff unless you can find a dealer that will buy in bulk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalet View Post
    SC is a different setup to the classifieds on TRF, there you can’t comment unless you are the OP. I enjoy the community, and SC is great to observe or buy from, but I have to agree that a lot of comments are not helpful.
    All the nonsense recently made me (temporarily) wish the permissions on TRF could be in TZ too.

    I put something in earlier but withdrew it as I was trying to save as a draft (first SC post) and even after withdrawing had a comment telling me it was about £800 too much! Post was up for all of 3 minutes and after deleting it I got 4 pms so I figure the pricing comment was as inaccurate as it was unnecessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    All the nonsense recently made me (temporarily) wish the permissions on TRF could be in TZ too.

    I put something in earlier but withdrew it as I was trying to save as a draft (first SC post) and even after withdrawing had a comment telling me it was about £800 too much! Post was up for all of 3 minutes and after deleting it I got 4 pms so I figure the pricing comment was as inaccurate as it was unnecessary.
    I read the sales post that you bought from and clearly a fresh Rolex service covered the bulk of the difference between what might normally be expected and what you paid and were asking.

    The price asked by your seller was very fair considering the Watch was still covered in service stickers.

    You should relist it if you are interested in selling.

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    SC is fine, your a good name here and know the set up so if any tossers jump your post I’m sure you will be well backed..

    What I have done in the past is give it a few days on SC if no luck stick it on eBay for more money, I say it in the ad so anyone who is on the fence know they have to move for it or else it goes elsewhere, saves all the bump bump bumping..


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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Need to sell a few watches as part of my exit plan, fed up with Sc, can't be arsed with eBay. Whats the next port of call? watchfinder? grateful for any advice. cheers dave
    Just sell to those who you've had friendly transactions with in the past Especially if you have a Citizen 2100 Calibre :-)

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    I don’t have enough posts to sell on sc, but I can view it. So, from a buyer/viewer only perspective I agree with what others have said. As a rule, a respectable ad gets respectable responses. There’s always a chance that an idiot (lots about at the moment) could try to spoil things but I don’t think they’d get far due to your good reputation on the forum.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    I read the sales post that you bought from and clearly a fresh Rolex service covered the bulk of the difference between what might normally be expected and what you paid and were asking.

    The price asked by your seller was very fair considering the Watch was still covered in service stickers.

    You should relist it if you are interested in selling.
    Sorry, crossed wires. I was selling a 42mm Explorer II because I’d just got the 16600 in the post and I’m trying to stick to one in/one out.

    The 16600 truly is stunning and if the service stickers didn’t have stripes on them you’d be forgiven for thinking it was NOS. Great watch and I’m happy with what I paid. Only issue is my wife came home from work and said it looks too small for me and to get rid of it. I have all the links on and it’s on the biggest adjustment, but that’s a different grief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wileeeeeey View Post
    Sorry, crossed wires. I was selling a 42mm Explorer II because I’d just got the 16600 in the post and I’m trying to stick to one in/one out.

    The 16600 truly is stunning and if the service stickers didn’t have stripes on them you’d be forgiven for thinking it was NOS. Great watch and I’m happy with what I paid. Only issue is my wife came home from work and said it looks too small for me and to get rid of it. I have all the links on and it’s on the biggest adjustment, but that’s a different grief.
    Sorry, my bad. If the wife wins PM me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    Sorry, my bad. If the wife wins PM me
    Jeebers. I should be running a dating service :)))
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Lol 😂
    It's just a matter of time...

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    Raffe and Ally run the sales here. I’d PM either of them.

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    Do you have a Tudor Sub I will buy it from you on this thread - it’s not SC or WF. Then again I am in the market for almost most anything (high and low end) so PM me a list and we can go from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredamens View Post
    Do you have a Tudor Sub I will buy it from you on this thread - it’s not SC or WF. Then again I am in the market for almost most anything (high and low end) so PM me a list and we can go from there.

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    That is a highly unusual post. Care to elaborate?
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Do SC threads for cheaper things attract commentary? I just went through my six sales, and across all six threads there was just one single comment before the OHPF posts (Steppy kindly saying it was a good price)

    it was a good price and additionally I still rue the day I missed out on your Max Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredamens View Post
    Do you have a Tudor Sub I will buy it from you on this thread - it’s not SC or WF. Then again I am in the market for almost most anything (high and low end) so PM me a list and we can go from there.

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    You're in the market for almost anything???

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    Need to up the post count to 1000 before SC access to get rid of the jousters

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Jeebers. I should be running a dating service :)))
    He did say on another thread he had bought the SD from SC and he wants to keep it but the wife thinks it's too small and that he should sell it. All perfectly straight forward

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    I still sell on SC with no problem as long as it’s priced right - last sale went same day. Watchfinder is ok but you’ll probably get less for it. I haven’t sold on Ebay for ages - heard too many horror stories and the ebay/PayPal costs just keep going up and up.

    If your near London Austin Kay https://www.austinkaye.co.uk/ will sell on commission basis?

    All depends how quick you want to sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Need to sell a few watches as part of my exit plan...

    You are Ford Prefect and I claim my £5.00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steppy View Post
    You're in the market for almost anything???
    eBay? Ha...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKH View Post
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    I'd say 9,400.

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    Stick with SC Dave and ignore any rubbish.
    And I mean properly ignore it, no reply.
    There are loads of perfectly decent people on here, and there always have been.
    There are a few who might spoil the odd listing, but not many.
    And generally there is no issue with a fair listing at a decent price with suitable pictures.
    Which is not much to ask for when you are asking people to stump up hundreds or more pounds for something which you have, and they have never seen.
    Any dealer will want a large margin, be it jeweller, trader, auction house or other. Your watches will either be priced out of the market or you will not get much for your exit (which makes it less useful to you). And they may well be too specialist for a local jeweller.
    Most non-SC routes end up as about a 20-30% difference for watches in the £1000 range. Too much to ignore (which you might if they were cheaper), and you get no advantage of reducing the percentage, like a trader might for a £5k watch.
    You also have the knowledge that the proportion of trades/sales here that goes wrong is generally lower than Ebay.
    Stick with it. This is still much better (for seller and buyers) than most alternatives.
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    Sounds good advice to me; a lot of watches get sold on SC, a lot. And the vast majority of sellers are honest and dependable, at least in my limited experience.
    The biggest drawback, is perhaps best described as a certain 'caution' about anything slightly different. Probably because people flip quite a lot (guilty!). So a sports Rolex flies out the door, a nice Zenith...for example...takes more selling.
    Selling is often quite hard work. But that applies not just to SC but also dealing with traders. That's life.....
    Last edited by paskinner; 1st November 2017 at 10:37.

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    I think that this has been a useful thread as it demonstrates the strongly felt differences between the interferers and the non interferers over the buying and selling of watches on SC.

    The only simple conclusion that any objective person can draw is that there is no solution. The interferers cannot be stopped and the non interferers have no influence, so it will carry on with the odd skirmish now and then.

    We may as well drop the subject because the interferers have won and I for one am not going to comment on it anymore as it is a total waste of time.

    However the victory is not without cost because a lot of people (myself included) will never place an advert on SC because there is an evens chance of someone coming in and destroying the ad. It can be done purely because of a past grudge and no one will stop it.

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    It’s a shame that people are being put off SC owing to the interferers and thread-spoilers. Personally I wouldn’t let it put me off but I can see why people would take the easier route of using Watchfinder if the price offered is acceptable.

    If you can’t say owt nice say nowt.........that should be the golden rule when commenting on sales threads.

    I agree with Sweets comments entirely, stick with it and ignore the spoilers.

    Paul
    Last edited by walkerwek1958; 1st November 2017 at 11:06.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walkerwek1958 View Post
    It’s a shame that people are being put off SC owing to the interferers and thread-spoilers. Personally I wouldn’t let it put me off but I can see why people would take the easier route of using Watchfinder if the price offered is acceptable.

    If you can’t say owt nice say nowt.........that should be the golden rule when commenting on sales threads.

    I agree with Sweets comments entirely, stick with it and ignore the spoilers.

    Paul
    Indeed. There are only a small minority who tend to like the sound of their own voices. Ignore them.

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    To my mind the there is usually always some issue with the threads that get spoiled. Either it’s a very lazy ad - PM for photos etc, the buyer is trying to make a quick buck and is found out, KP for example or the seller has a shady reputation which may or may not show up in H&V.
    Then there has been the Speedy Tuesday which has caused almost as big a rift as Brexit.

    The vast majority of SC ads however, are straightforward and get no negative comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    To my mind the there is usually always some issue with the threads that get spoiled. Either it’s a very lazy ad - PM for photos etc, the buyer is trying to make a quick buck and is found out, KP for example or the seller has a shady reputation which may or may not show up in H&V.
    Then there has been the Speedy Tuesday which has caused almost as big a rift as Brexit.

    The vast majority of SC ads however, are straightforward and get no negative comments.
    I agree with this. Decent honest listings don't attract any attention and usually end up with a sale.

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    Agreed, there are some lazy ads where folks can`t be bothered to take decent pictures or they quote pictures taken from a previous sale months ago; pointing a phone camera at the watch and clicking just isn`t good enough to show the true condition. I use an old fairly cheap digital camera but it has a good macro facility and that's essential to capture close-up detail. It's not about winning a prize for photography, it's all about showing the condition of the watch honestly.

    A good advert won't attract negative comments unless someone's got a grudge against the seller, sadly it happens and to me it's the politics of the playground, it reflects very badly on the ones who post such rubbish.

    Selling a current watch for over list price is always going to be a divisive issue, I have mixed feelings on that one.

    SC is never going to suit everyone, I`d like to see radical changes but I have to accept it isn`t my decision. as for prices I don`t object to people asking a strong price for an excellent watch and I certainly wouldn`t expect to be paying substantially less than market value for such an example. I don`t think price is really a problem in most cases.

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