What is SIPS?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F182416134619
Found this retailer who sells them a few others on eBay too . I'm considering use them when I build my studio in a few years .
SIP bargains here:
https://www.secondsandco.co.uk/s-i-p-pannels
I found the thread about tax & sheds: it wasn't as exciting as I remebered:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1656106
See question 62 - I think they had backpedalled from the original words:
http://www.boothsgardenstudios.co.uk./faqs#18
Some more threads that may be of interest:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1660841
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1655937
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1633199
Interesting thread as pondering a garden office/workshop. My wife makes curtains and blinds from home and currently uses our dining room. She’s running out of space now due to materials stock. Our main concern is permissions. The house is a grade 2 listed and is in a conservation area. I hear people say you don’t need planning permission. I’ve not yet researched this, but I suspect we will need listed building consent as a listing covers the “curtilage” as well as the house. This concern and the time to get into this has held us back.
Just bumping this thread as my wife being pregnant has upped the time line for a garden office somewhat. Went to see Smart Garden Offices in Suffolk, they quoted £20k for a 4.2 by 3.2m garden office! Made me think essentially it's just a shed with insulation and plasterboard internally, especially as I'd have to get an electrician to connect it up and someone to prepare the site and build the base.
So a couple of options, buy a shed for 4 to 5k and have a builder add insulation and decorate internally, like this,
http://fencingcentre.co.uk/penthouse...-55m-x-40m.asp
Or go for a Dunster House garden office which is essentially that for 7k and have a builder build a concrete base and install it which would hopefully come to less than the 4k Dunster want for installation. Apparently if you don't pay for installation they just dump it all at the curb side, so would have to try to squeeze it into the garage.
This is the one I'm considering,
https://dunsterhouse.co.uk/alexander...-w4-4m-x-d3-3m
I do think I prefer the plasterboard look to log cabin. here's a log cabin option, but you have to add quite a lot of extras yourself,
https://www.tuin.co.uk/Arne-Log-Cabin-4.5x3.5m.html
I'd appreciate some advice as having trouble deciding! Also if anyone can recommend a builder with reach of north London, that would be great. Thanks.
Have a look at sips panels very cost effective way to build this type of thing good thermal value too.. I think there are companies offering bespoke service online which may be cheaper? You will still need a concrete base etc.
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I've built a couple garden buildings in the basic stick build fashion rather than SIPS, which is essentially how they build in North America and Australia. Typically the cheapest type of usable foundation are the concrete piers - so you basically buy these cardboard forms from a postage supplier and make them that way.
I did a building around the size you're looking for and fully insulated and plasterboarded, EDPM roof and basic UPVC double doors came to about £12-14k off the top of my head - including the foundation. I think that included putting in a sub panel and hooking it up but not running the cable. This very much isn't a shed with added insulation, it's a proper stick built building with 4x2 walls, 18mm osb sheathing, all kinds of high tech membranes, celotex in the floor and ceilings with rockwool in the walls, redwood shiplap cladding.
Not sure where you are located but if you're anywhere near Dorset let me know..
I'll try and dig some out! My main work is in furniture and the like (http://etrentmaker.com) but I do some carpentry on the side.
We have a 3.5m x 3m office in the garden and have a ProBase plastic grid and gravel base which was considerably lower cost and effort than having a concrete base so it well worth considering. It took half a day to flatten the soil, install the grid and fill it with gravel (about 2 tonnes in total with a decorative edging and an area for deck-chairs outside). Concrete is obviously right for some projects but it's definitely not the only option for many.
Local joiner built ours as a bespoke design and it was 1/5th of the price of the quote from a garden office supplier.
I'm over in Cheshire and our joiner is in the Shropshire borders. I think we're a fair distance away although I know he does do work in a fairly large radius 100+ miles, I don't think London is necessarily his "patch". But maybe? Anyway, how we found him is quite interesting. We actually saw some work at a craft fair where he was showing outdoor dog kennels, rabbit hutches and chicken runs. He said he also did chicken coups which got me thinking that something bigger would be entirely possible. He had done a few sheds and summerhouses so we worked on a specification and agreed that it was deliverable. It's fully insulated with wool insulation and fully lined with double doors and windows at the front and a side window with an opening top section. Electrics were installed afterwards by our electrician three double plugs with USB slots and we have strong wifi so didn't need boosters.
Costs:
Office - £1900
Base plastic grid - £160
Gravel - £80 (this is actually for twice the area of the office as we have a side area for a hammock/deck-chairs
Electrics - £320 including 30m of armoured cable and outlets
PIRs and heavy-duty security bar - £70
It has a more rural-aesthetic than might be required by other people - the exterior planking is quite rough cut - but as we live on the edge of town and border the country in a listed Coach House it looks entirely appropriate in its setting. It came pre-stained but we painted it again inside and out and I fitted carpet - £25 from eBay). It's transformed our work as my wife's a writer and we both work at home much of the time so share the space (it's cluttered but fantastically efficient!)
Earlier in the year I decided to go freelance. Working from home with two kids buzzing around wasn't an option so I decided to design and build a space for me to work from. My garden isn't big enough to house a suitable office but for me to operate my design business from, but fortunately I have a stake in another business based on a farm, which I'm able to rent some space from, in their orchid.
That business supplies GRP to the roofing trade so I wanted to use Fibreglass as much as possible, and the utilise the services of the guys on site. A fabricator, joiner and GRP roofing specialists. I opted to make the initial structure from Steel so the finished office could be transported anywhere.
It's not quite finished, but getting closer now. Rooflight, second fix electrics and units to fit. It's heading towards a budget of £15k all complete which is a little more than I'd hoped but ultimately it'll be a nice asset for the business and should be completed without having to borrow any cash.
It's a few meters from a toilet block so doesn't require plumbing, I'll probably fit an aircon unit, a deck and hand rail at the front. Here's where it is to date...
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First fix electrics are now in and it's getting plastered.
That's is seriously impressive! Will be a great space to work in. Lots of light too.
Narrowing my options down now, what would people choose, between a building built with SIPs panels and a traditional wood building built by a joiner? SIPs seem more high tech but are there perhaps queries over their longevity? Wood built probably more attractive and in keeping with the surroundings. I'm looking at a similar price for the two.
We went wood but we wanted something low cost in the first instance that we could upgrade later once we knew it worked for us. We also live in a listed building and felt that a cottage garden building had to look "appropriate" (however one defines that).
Finally got my build finished.
Features:
•*Ikea furniture
• Howden's grey composite decking at the front
• B&Q light oak laminate flooring
Still need: Screen for back wall, better heating, wall clock, frames and coat hooks
Approx cost £15,000
Looks very impressive and a pleasant place to work I'm sure.