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Otherwise I might have considered one.
Few would argue with the idea that the original (and the LE reissue) Sinn EZM-1 was a landmark - different, stylish, and a proper tool watch.
Well, Sinn have reissued it! And it's in steel. And 43mm. And 16mm thick. And a modified 7750.
More here - CLICK
And nearly 5k usd...
Otherwise I might have considered one.
Actually it's 4850€ in EU. Love the Sinn but ouch
Too big for me, but far from a clown watch. This:
and this:
are clown watches.
I see some clown comments but no clown watches in the thread so far.
You're a one man bitch-fest.
It's nice I like it a lot . Why is it a clown watch - or just a clickbait thread title ?
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At a guess -- because of the size.
43x16 isn't that big these days. Especially the thickness - the EZM1 had a domed crystal and sloping bezel and this one does too.Originally Posted by NickRed71
Titanium 66% heavier than the steel one. That's odd
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Just the Ti and SS transposed, that's all.
Not odd. Wrong.
Swap the Ti with the SS in the above post, please - PickleB has it the wrong way around. And RustyBin5, I'm not really meaning to be clickbait - just that the older EZM1 was almost perfectly proportioned. There is no reason for the new one to be 15% bigger, other than fashion. Then it's steel, so that it's heavier, etc.
Certainly didn't mean the thread to become a slap-fest for JP Chestnut and RAJEN.
Material mixed up in above comparison
SS is the new material of the 43 mm
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Oops...typo / finger trouble...now corrected. Thanks...
Man I wish I had a spare five grand lying around right now. I've wanted an EZM1 for some time and I think I'd prefer the slightly larger size, given that the design is all about legibility. 43mm is definitely not clown proportions either. I have several watches bigger than that, and most of mine are at least 42mm. This is going to be a striking looking watch, but still reserved and toolish. Very far from clownish.
My only potential concern is the weight. I think Titanium would have been a better choice, but at least the steel is tegimented (my 103 is not, and has an irritating nick from a springbar accident). Also the movement being nonstandard makes it slightly unproven. The 7750 doesn't have the same reputation as the Lemania even without unproven modifications. They didn't have a lot of options though, so have probably made the best choice they could.
Looks great but pricey it's big but not huge
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There are some nice Sinns, but not too keen on that look.
Prefer any Damasko.
Al
Well I really like that newer size. I've always felt that the 40mm case / 20mm lugs is too small. This new EZM-1.1 at 43mm is still smaller than the Sinn U2 I worn for 10 years.... I'm currently wearing a Sinn U1000 which is bigger.... and my spare "beater" Seiko has a case diameter of 52mm.
Why ever did I flip my original, 40mm Lemania EZM-1?!
Looks ok to me...
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To my mind they have done nothing but downspec it.
It is too big
It uses the wrong case material
It uses an unproven proprietary movement instead of one that served in military forces all over the world for decades.
And the price is silly.
We can all console ourselves that there is no need to buy the new one, just buy the original at about 60% of the price.
EZM1 prices were up to £3k at times past, not any more.
What is even more silly is that the EZM13 (whose days I think will now be limited) is very good value, despite also using a Sinn proprietary modification of the 7750 - the SZ02. Not quite as legible, but a good attempt
Dave
Wot Dave said ^
They've managed to bring out a reissue with absolutely none of the features that made the original so appealing and interesting
Good luck everybody. Have a good one.
Nice, but if it were a couple of mm smaller the. It would be nicer.
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Exactly. Who do they think they are, Longines?
So, the completely unique no-subdials chronograph design was never one of the appealing/interesting features?
Not to me
Good luck everybody. Have a good one.
Mate, longines are kicking it big style. Some of their heritage stuff is proper bonzer
Good luck everybody. Have a good one.
Some.
Seriously Alan? I think Longines is one of the very few companies that get their re-issues right most of the time.
Clown watch because of the size? Na, its not a clown watch, its a man watch
I agree. This generally happens when the bloke in charge of date windows is on holiday.
Exactement.
For some reason I'm watching some Eddie Izzard videos on Youtube this morning and it strikes me that he could do quite a good routine on the man from Longines who's in charge of date windows. He could even do it in French.
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I assumed he was on holiday all the time, because any decision he makes appears to be phoned in.
EDIT: I'll get my coat.
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+1, even had the Tritium dial.....AaaahWhy ever did I flip my original, 40mm Lemania EZM-1?!
La date est sur l'usine du glue, longines est sur la branche. Une chambre svp.
I'll take this instead
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Damasko DC80, 2850 Euros with Damast coating. Modified 7750 a la Sinn SZ01 but cheaper. Will be used as base for more complicated chronos. It's on the WUS Damasko forum ;)
I recently picked up this A. Lange & Sohne, bit clownish...
That's interesting, thank you. Still 42mm diameter (43 and change including bezel, mind (who the hell measures the diameter without the bezel?)), but slimmer than the Sinn at 14mm.
That's not a terrible price, either. But lol at this -
Estimated delivery date will be medio to end of October 2017.
That's pretty cool, even though it's a blatent EZM knock-off. The Sinn definitely has the design heritage going for it. In some ways this does the same thing better, though perhaps with a touch less class. Not sure about the green either. Trying a bit too hard to be different. Red or yellow would look awesome.
Reading the WUS thread there's a lot of talk about how Damasko has patented their 7750 modification, but it sounds functionally identical to the Sinn. I wonder if Sinn are licensing from Damasko again? Wasn't their falling out the reason they had to stop making tegimented cases, because Damasko owns the patent on that process too (although they call it ice hardening)?
The case hardening processes are completely different if my understanding is correct. Sinn and Damasko announced the EZM10 and DC86 at almost the same time.
The DC86 was planned with green or orange chrono hands, I suspect the DC80 will be the same. I would have the plain black/white stitching strap rather than matching the chrono hands.
Total different. Sinn's is surface hardening. Damasko's goes all the way through.
Ah yes, just looked this up. I thought that during the period when Damasko supplied cases to Sinn those were the tegimented ones. It seems that actually tegimentation is an alternative process that Sinn came up with after their partnership with Damasko ended, and Sinn did in fact ship some ice hardened cases prior to that, but only for one year:
http://www.sinn.de/en/TEGIMENT.htm
Yes, I'd probably do the same, and orange hands sound better. Since this isn't an LE there's also the possibility of my being able to find one at a time when I can afford it!
The green hands on the Damasko dc80 look awful to my eyes..... I'm sorry but this is nowhere near as refined as the EZM- 1.1
That looks like a significant development. Thanks for raising it.I'll take this instead
Don't suppose there's much chance of that being marketed as a unisex model.
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I remember reading a post from Eddie a few years ago where he described all of the movement variations available out of the factory by ETA and described in a catalogue; mightn't it just be the same movement and the development is done by the movement supplier?
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