Reply With QuoteDeployment is what troops go on.
Deployant is a watch clasp that joins two ends of the strap.
I keep seeing one or the other in descriptions and wonder whether they are the same difference?
Deployment is what troops go on.
Deployant is a watch clasp that joins two ends of the strap.
Has Google crashed again?
People new and not so new to our hobby make this mistake a lot.
Use of the word deployment marks you out as a no-nothing newbie or worse.
Troops get deployed, it's nothing what so ever to do with watch straps.
You may find the problem is due to auto correct on your phone, pc or tablet. My advice is to add the correct word to your personal dictionary.
Hope that helps.
I'd recommend adding the expression 'know-nothing' and the word 'whatsoever' to your personal dictionary.
From the French, déployer: to spread out, to unfold
You do see deployment used on the websites of some quite well respected watch strap retailers so it is little wonder that there is some confusion.
And to be fair they come from the same etymological root. If enough people use 'deployment' for watch straps it will end up in the OED.
I don't think it's worth worrying about unless you're a complete and utter watch bore as everyone knows what you mean when you say "deployment". A lot of the Swiss companies seem to use "deployant" but the UK based companies such as Bremont and CW use "deployment".
ExactlyOriginally Posted by Lampoc
The terms are interchangeable within the watch industry - but some consider one correct
It's just a matter of time...
deployment
noun
- the movement of troops or equipment to a place or position for military action.
The other is a watch thing
RIAC
The same, but there are different types, eg butterfly and tri-fold.
...and derived from an old French word 'desploier' meaning 'to unfold'. So essentially the same word and often used interchangeably as stated previously.
If everyone understands what it means, what difference does it make?
Like others have said I've sent spelt both ways
What ever way it's spelt I know what there talking about
Thankfully I am not French
RIAC
It is derived from same word but to mean different things. This is an old argument but show me a single dictionary which
Gives the meaning of deployment as an a clasp for watch strap. They are related but different words and not to be used interchangeably unless one's motive is to grate.
Their are several inelegant usages that can convey the meaning but are not correct.
It's pretty pointless using the dictionary argument against "deployment" when "deployant" isn't in there at all. It's not even in the French dictionary...
I have to say I'm not quite sure why this annoys me so much, but it does haha. Watch geek-ism at it's best.
Anybody with time on hands can rectify this by going to : http://public.oed.com/the-oed-today/...te-to-the-oed/
Exactly, and why would we use the French anyway?
So is 'chimley' and 'fanks' ready for the OED too then?
Fair enough, they are 'related but different'. It seems to me the meanings are converging through use, even if some see that use as incorrect. Deployment relating to watch straps is an unusual but not IMHO incorrect use of an English word that has a current definition that includes 'bringing resources into use'. It's not like 'should of' etc, which really does grate to me. I think it's harsh to pick up on people who are applying a real word, with its correct meaning, just an unusual usage. Personally I do find 'deployant' a more pleasing word to say.
You do speak a language that has a lot of French-derived words in it though.
Chimley is in the OED as a dialect form of 'chimney'. Any word, or use of an existing word, will make it into the Dictionary over time if there is reasonably widespread use that can be documented, as Raj has pointed out with that link. 'Lol' has been in for a long time, which will grate with many. The Dictionary records usage, it does not prescribe it.
Apologies for the lengthy multi-quote, which I know also grates with some. I can be quite a bore with this stuff, mainly because it fascinates me, probably a lot more than it should. I did work at the Oxford University Press for a few years and sat not far from the Dictionaries team - quite a fascinating group and an incredible history. They certainly conveyed to me the idea that language is a living thing, not something to be documented once and then defended against change.
Sneering at people who make this mistake allows those whose own English is scarcely better than fluent demotic to feel good about themselves
The use of the word "deployment" doesn't grate with me. The misuse of the word "their" on the other hand ... :-)
So, no one really knows after all
Still, a good thread for the sneermongers to get their teeth into.
Only joking.
Have a good weekend
We do know. It's deployant.So, no one really knows after all
Still, a good thread for the sneermongers to get their teeth into.
Only joking.
Have a good weekend
Its whether or not it's worth yet another thread about it that's the question here.
But you weren't to know that.
It's funny when people say it's not Deployment because of the troop thing, as if you can't use the word in any other context. Of course you can. And you can probably see how a clasp on a watch can 'deploy' the strap through the buckle before clamping it down, probably hence the name, in French, and the transference of it to English.
Exactly this ^^^
Deployment also defined as:
"The action of bringing resources into effective action"
Not too much of a stretch to imagine this could be used to romanticise the joining of two ends of a strap by way of a fancy clasp.
No need for people to get uppity about it. It's FAR more annoying when people say 'Sat' instead of 'Sitting'.
😀 Touché
Predictive text and autocorrect can be a cruel mistress....
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Or should that be mistresses?? 😉😉
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There's a thread that I recall...
...and another later on:
Not sure if it'll be before or after the calibre v caliber discussion.
True but I don't want to hide behind those excuses.
Their/there is one of my pet peeves as well. It was a mistake and it was lazy.
On the topic of the post, it would be smart to notice and acknowledge that people who usually use deployment are usually newbies or non-WIS. That should settle the argument. If some still want to continue defending use of 'deployment', feel free to go on.
Gosh, seems like much ado about nothing really, as pointed out already language is constantly evolving, both words work for me.
Hodinkee lectures us on the error of using the term 'deployment' - hence it is probably a good idea to do so! Personally, I use deployants but don't care if others use deployments.
Now I like the word deployant but I also like the word deployment. But which is better? There's only one way to find out....
Fi..... No, start a thread on here.
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Hard but fair. My bad.
I use deployant, but I don't mind when people use deployment. It's never caused me any confusion.
Can it be relied on?
Gives out shed loads of misinformation !
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