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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saxon007 View Post
    I find the rendering rather Seiko-like. Not for me.

    Why not go retro? Just a slight tweak to the Speedbird III...


    Yes to this. The design is a proven winner, is it not?

    No logo, no date, perhaps crisper print consistent colouring between the numbers and the lume, and perhaps a fraction slimmer if possible? Perfect.

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    The bracelet was awesome on that older Speedbird but I always thought it overpowered the watch a bit. So would like to see a bracelet more suited to it if going with the older design.
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    As a matter of interest are those saying "More like the old Speedbird" owners of older Speedbirds?

    I really liked the render (I like the red, the numerals and the hands, although the date window looks a little out of proportion), but I've never really felt the urge for a Speedbird.

    I can see what people mean about "Seiko Dress Watch" style, a little, but I'm sure in the metal it'd be distinct enough not to be mistaken for one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morning Wood View Post
    A non date option with drilled lugs, double AR and a tapered bracelet please.
    Doable AR.
    agreed, that's paramount for me too

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    An internal bezel version of the original would have me buying one.

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    Will the bracelet taper towards the clasp?

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    Was this project discarded or is it still underway?


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    Quote Originally Posted by AdmiralNilsson View Post
    Was this project discarded or is it still underway?


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    I'll make more of the Speedbird 3 at some point and for the 20th anniversary of the PRS-1, I'll make some with the PRS-1 dial or maybe a full reproduction of the PRS-1 (20th anniversary edition).

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    Oh? Thatís worth a wait I guess ;)
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    Even better! Thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    I'll make more of the Speedbird 3 at some point and for the 20th anniversary of the PRS-1, I'll make some with the PRS-1 dial or maybe a full reproduction of the PRS-1 (20th anniversary edition).

    Eddie
    Eddie, I donít envy you trying to follow the brilliant SB3. I have had mine a few years now and I still much enjoy wearing it and consider it was an absolute bargain! IMHO the bracelet alone is pretty much worth what I paid you for the SB3 package!

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    I'm a Speedbird fanboy. I'll buy just about anything that says Speedbird so long as it's no more than 40mm. SB1 re-issue? Yes, please.

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    Shame, I really liked the look of this one. Nice sporty dress watch with a bit of style to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    I'll make more of the Speedbird 3 at some point and for the 20th anniversary of the PRS-1, I'll make some with the PRS-1 dial or maybe a full reproduction of the PRS-1 (20th anniversary edition).

    Eddie
    20 years...where has the time gone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    I'll make more of the Speedbird 3 at some point and for the 20th anniversary of the PRS-1, I'll make some with the PRS-1 dial or maybe a full reproduction of the PRS-1 (20th anniversary edition).

    Eddie
    Eddie,
    I will order some if you make some. I am a newcomer, totally missed out the chance to buy last time. Otherwise, I will have to get it from MKII.

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    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Love the font on the version B. Prefer it to my original version. Personally i prefer the sterile dials.

    They look like black edged hands on that render though, was that intentional? I think silvered would be better for visibility over the black dial

    I love that dial though Eddie and i think if you ever got round to producing a 60 min timing bezel version with that dial you would have a winner.

    The slightly squashy font reminds me of the heuer bund, which is a good thing.
    Last edited by seikopath; 5th June 2018 at 08:07.
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Love the font on the version B. Prefer it to my original version. Personally i prefer the sterile dials.

    They look like black edged hands on that render though, was that intentional? I think silvered would be better for visibility over the black dial

    I love that dial though Eddie and i think if you ever got round to producing a 60 min timing bezel version with that dial you would have a winner.

    The slightly squashy font reminds me of the heuer bund, which is a good thing.
    The hands are black on the PRS-1.

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    Version B for me Eddie. I really like the black hands over the black dial and the fact it doesnít have a date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Love the font on the version B.
    Agreed. Version A with the Version B font would be just about perfect, although I too would probably prefer it without the Speedbird text. All of that notwithstanding, I am pleased to see the wonky positioning of the 7 and 8 appears not to have been carried over from the SBIII

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    I like version B too.

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    That looks fantastic! Would you estimate it to be a 2018 or a 2019 model?


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    I like both versions however the main improvement would be a bracelet clasp with micro-adjustment. The SBIII is arguably the best watch Iíve ever owned but Iíve owned and sold three due to the butterfly clasp fastening.

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    Version B all the way!
    Got a new watch, divers watch it is, had to drown the bastard to get it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddelvirks View Post
    Version B all the way!
    Good call,same choice for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwest76 View Post
    Good call,same choice for me.
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    Will there be an adjustable clasp? I could never get a good fit on my SBII GMT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverCD View Post


    A look with blue hands and moving the date to the outside edge slightly
    Perfect ... Where can I sign up!

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    Version B looks fantastic, might even sell my PRS-22!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverCD View Post


    A look with blue hands and moving the date to the outside edge slightly
    This without a date would make a nice sporty dress watch. Not a Speedbird obviously but would be a nice addition to the range!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverCD View Post
    Had a very quick mock up of oversized arabics on the dial...

    Can you do a 3-6-9 mock up without a date?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onelasttime View Post
    Will there be an adjustable clasp? I could never get a good fit on my SBII GMT.
    Show me the type of clasp you mean and I'll look at it.

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    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Show me the type of clasp you mean and I'll look at it.

    Eddie
    A fliplock will give the required micro adjustment that the butterfly doesnít offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    The hands are black on the PRS-1.

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    how do they compare to the sbiii?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Show me the type of clasp you mean and I'll look at it.

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    Like the IWC Pilot bracelet clasp with ratchet? I know this is a recent IWC invention, but is something similar available?




    Or even some half-links would suffice? The SBIII was always too tight or too loose on me but a half link or two might have nailed it

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    Looks Perfect

    I was just scouring the web for a Speedbird III but having seen version B i'm than happy to wait. Looks brilliant.

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    Version B looks perfect; include two sets of lug holes, one for the bracelet, one for the strap, and it will be. The lack of the latter is a weakness in the Speedbird 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Show me the type of clasp you mean and I'll look at it.

    Eddie
    I've used clasp end links from a Kienzle bracelet that matches up to the Speedbird bracelet and enables fitting a standard adjustable safety clasp.

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    Version B looks like a winner Eddie. I too like the idea of a micro adjustment on the bracelet.

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    Version B for me, beautiful simplicity

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    FWIW, version B for me too. That, or else the Air Ministry. Decisions, decisions...

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    Has anyone noticed that the "Version B" looks larger (it's not)?

    Eddie
    Whole chunks of my life come under the heading "it seemed like a good idea at the time".

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Has anyone noticed that the "Version B" looks larger (it's not)?

    Eddie
    Only on reviewing your drawings following your prompt. An optical illusion as a consequence of the finer minute markers perhaps?

    I much prefer the dial layout of B to A but am still puzzling over the logic of black hands on a black dial. I know it references back to the original Speedbird I but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't actually be better to use the version A hands. That, for me, would be the perfect compromise in updating the SBIII whilst still referencing the original SBI
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    Would it be feasible to offer two variants - logoed and sterile dial, as Stowa do?

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    The date was the only thing wrong with the sterile Speedbird I had for a while. No date and I'm convinced I'd still have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinCRC View Post
    Only on reviewing your drawings following your prompt. An optical illusion as a consequence of the finer minute markers perhaps?

    I much prefer the dial layout of B to A but am still puzzling over the logic of black hands on a black dial. I know it references back to the original Speedbird I but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't actually be better to use the version A hands. That, for me, would be the perfect compromise in updating the SBIII whilst still referencing the original SBI
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    I like the black hands. It doesnít lose any legibility because the lume covers most of the hands anyway and therefore appears to ďfloatĒ over the dial.

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    Speaking as someone with no knowledge as to what's appropriate or not on this style (and who in any case has his fingers crossed for the possible white dial 29a) I could imagine version B's numerals with Version A's handsome logo and date window, together with a rich satin or glossy dial texture, having commercial appeal to uninformed people like myself. The 39mm diameter, bracelet, auto movement and 10atm WR also on the nose for that kind of customer.

    If this is a simply ghastly, inauthentic idea, please shout me down :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    Has anyone noticed that the "Version B" looks larger (it's not)?

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    I am guessing that is an optical illusion, the result of the B version having larger numerals and a smaller triangle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    ...I could imagine version B's numerals with Version A's handsome logo and date window, together with a rich satin or glossy dial texture, having commercial appeal to uninformed people like myself. The 39mm diameter, bracelet, auto movement and 10atm WR also on the nose for that kind of customer.

    If this is a simply ghastly, inauthentic idea, please shout me down :)
    As you wish: PLEASE! NO DATE, NO LOGO, NO TEXTURE AND NO GLOSS ON THE B VERSION!

    Consider yourself shouted down. :) I am okay with that stuff on the A version (which I won't be buying).

    If I were to change anything I would use BGW9 lume instead of C3 lume. BGW9 is a white lume and has 95% of the luminescence of C3 without the greenish cast C3 often displays. I would also prefer matte silver hands rather than black. Regardless of my nit-picking I am quite pleased with the B version, it is a handsome watch.

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    Speedbird 4 B

    Give me a B! B!

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    The "b" is looking perfect, i know it would probably add significantly to the cost but what would really make this one special would be to make it a true no date watch. I don't know how practicable that is.

    I do know that feeling the date stop in the crown movement and having no date to set has ruined some otherwise great watches for me.

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