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    Speedbird 4?



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    That is beautiful.

    If the 40/42mm stands for two options, I vote for 40mm.

    Not sure about the bracelet endpieces, though. Do you have a rendering from the side?

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    Could I beseech you to make a 36mm version as well, as with the PRS-29a/b?

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    mk4

    does this mean you have settled on a 40mm case, and what other potential ideas do you have for this mk 4.

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    Very nice indeed, I like a splash of red. I'm with Raffe on 40mm being preferable if it is an option. Will be keeping an eye on this...

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    Agree with above, a stunning looking watch, but if given a preference 40mm would be my choice.

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    Cor that looks nice

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    Bravo Eddie - not my usual style of hands but it works very well.

    Another vote for 40mm.

    And of course the usual question - possible release date?

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    That looks tempting.

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    That does look good. I would suggest lumed numeral/indices if possible.

    Also with such a small date window, white numerals on a black background would look much classier.

    40mm for me also.

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    That looks great. Can I ask how the dial will be finished - matte/silk etc? Lumed numerals?

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    Is that the date in that render positioned as if the case were 42mm? Would a black date wheel be appropriate to this style?

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    Love the case if 40mm. Needs a black date wheel, a longer seconds hand tail and a flat dial. Oh, and no duck face at 12.

    Ta.

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    Needs a cyclops

    Lovely modern fleiger, and deffo 40mm, not 42mm

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    Very nice! 40mm for preference, I wonder if the red highlights could be substituted with yellow? that might look quite nice too.

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    Very nice! 40mm for preference, I wonder if the red highlights could be substituted with yellow? that might look quite nice too.

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    keep some numbers , maybe make some a bit bigger and protective shoulders for winding crown.

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    I'm sorry Eddie but I'm going to go against the crowd.
    I'm not keen on the red, the hands, the date position (although it may be better on 40mm) or the general design. It reminds me more of A Seiko dress watch than a pilots watch so the dial doesn't make sense.

    With a plain baton dial and no date or red it would be great with either a black or white dial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave+63 View Post
    I'm sorry Eddie but I'm going to go against the crowd.
    I'm not keen on the red, the hands, the date position (although it may be better on 40mm) or the general design. It reminds me more of A Seiko dress watch than a pilots watch so the dial doesn't make sense.

    With a plain baton dial and no date or red it would be great with either a black or white dial.
    Spot on Dave on all counts.

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    I like it. Would ditch the date altogether and have it at 40mm but the I'm nitpicking here.

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    Please Eddie a 'small' version maybe a 36mm.
    I am down for one.

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    I'm sorry, but I don't like anything about it.

    In my opinion, instead of a natural progression with the IWC theme.

    Go back again, instead of forward, and have another play about with the MK XI design.

    There's a gap in the market currently for another PRS-1 esque watch.

    I think another visit to the MK XI would go down a treat.

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    I'd like to see different set-ups with blue script/markers, and also different hands - Those ones don't suit in my opinion.

    Otherwise - a nice, clean design

    Al

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    I'm definitely in the 'Baton Dial' camp. really like the case and bracelet and particularly where they meet.
    Lose the arabics and i'd probably buy one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiki Picasso View Post
    I'm sorry, but I don't like anything about it.
    I must agree I'm afraid.

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    A combination of red white and black is always a good idea and whilst my head says there are too many obvious cues from other watches, I do like it very much.

    One innovation i'd dearly like to see for this iteration is two sets of lug holes. One for the bracelet; one for a strap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiki Picasso View Post

    have another play about with the MK XI design.

    There's a gap in the market currently for another PRS-1 esque watch.

    I think another visit to the MK XI would go down a treat.
    Please.

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    I love the hands. They are going to be mega legible.

    Agree that the date wheel should be black background or not at all.

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    I join the 'skip the date ' camp.
    Someone who lies about the little things will lie about the big things too.

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    I like it a lot albeit would prefer numerals all round.

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    White or silver dial options, and drilled lugs?

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    This is the first rendering. I gave a very loose brief to see what they would come up with as a starting point. I'm not sure about the red, the date wheel should be black, I'd prefer the bracelet from the SB3 and it will be 40mm only. I'm sure there will be more changes.

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    Very nice. A normal sized version 36-38 would have been good but I might just manage a 40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    This is the first rendering. I gave a very loose brief to see what they would come up with as a starting point. I'm not sure about the red, the date wheel should be black, I'd prefer the bracelet from the SB3 and it will be 40mm only. I'm sure there will be more changes.

    Eddie
    You could get two watches out of that; one closer to the previous Speedbird and one closer to Grand Seiko.

    Both would be nice and could, in theory, use the same case.

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    Personally I prefer the Red with black date wheel. What thickness?

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    I like the all the colored dial accents (not so much on the hands except the second hand), SB3 bracelet or at least a brushed bracelet instead of polished, black background date at 6 instead of 3, and A/R on only the underside. Lume on the numbers while I'm at it. Great launching point!

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    hi Eddie!

    I like the case design with inward shaped lugs omega style,
    I think the watch in general with
    tons of lume
    screwdown crown
    min 10atm wr
    brushed case
    drilled lugs
    black date wheel

    and TAPERED DOWN BRACELET

    would be luxurious.

    I reckon over 40mm it would be too big, because the dial already has quite some presence and tends to wear bigger.

    hell why not do a his & hers?
    40mm and 36mm

    so I can buy one too!

    Your sincerely
    Bubette
    Last edited by bubi; 23rd June 2017 at 15:21. Reason: added stuff

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    I agree with the comments on the red and think with a bit of tweaking it could work very well, I look forward to following progress.

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    I like it, but the red numerals are just a bit too busy. One of the great things about the Speedbird is its clean, uncluttered dial.

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    I like that very much.

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    At last a thread in the TF forum to get our teeth into! The magic started by Swanbourne thread...

    This looks promising! I'd really want it without a date though.

    It looks nice and slim - very much like the Railmaster case with turned lugs.

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    Here are a few colour ideas... plus how it might look with no date. Could be easy to do a few versions of this one Eddie, as you have done previously?

    No date




    Simple white, then some colour variations








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    I quite like the yellow.


    Looks best in white though I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OliverCD View Post

    This, with a white on black date disc & numerals at 3, 6 & 9

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    speedbird mk4

    as someone who loves the speedbird range, especially the mk3 (you need to make more by the way) . I feel the red numbers are a big no no, as is the shiny or polished case, for me it needs to be bead blasted matt case. Agree that this looks to dressy, what about a sinn 656 look, 12,3, 6, 9, numbers only, very legible or better lume, 200 meter waterproof and anti magnetic shield of mk3, i would buy that mr platts.

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    For me it looks a bit generic, non-descript. Too big, even at 40mm, the date window far too inboard, betraying a case far too large for the movement. The red colour accents are naff. If you wanted a bit of colour, then you could do a lot worse than ape the colouring of Jocke's latest Glashutte (see WT).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinCRC View Post
    For me it looks a bit generic, non-descript. Too big, even at 40mm, the date window far too inboard, betraying a case far too large for the movement. The red colour accents are naff. If you wanted a bit of colour, then you could do a lot worse than ape the colouring of Jocke's latest Glashutte (see WT).

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    This isn't my design. I gave the manufacturer a very loose brief and asked them to come up with something. I have some ideas of my own but wanted to see what somebody else's idea of a modern pilot watch was. The date window wouldn't be that far inboard on a 40mm watch, I suspect the rendering is based on 42mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanbourne View Post
    This isn't my design. I gave the manufacturer a very loose brief and asked them to come up with something. I have some ideas of my own but wanted to see what somebody else's idea of a modern pilot watch was. The date window wouldn't be that far inboard on a 40mm watch, I suspect the rendering is based on 42mm.

    Eddie
    Never mind modern, what the world needs is 39mm version of the the mythical Smiths SS4 with a sapphire crystal flat to the bezel like they do with Orfinas


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    As a matter of interest are those saying "More like the old Speedbird" owners of older Speedbirds?

    I really liked the render (I like the red, the numerals and the hands, although the date window looks a little out of proportion), but I've never really felt the urge for a Speedbird.

    I can see what people mean about "Seiko Dress Watch" style, a little, but I'm sure in the metal it'd be distinct enough not to be mistaken for one.

    M.

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    black date wheel, green text, and i'd be very very tempted - especially with a ratcheting bracelet!
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    A non date option with drilled lugs, double AR and a tapered bracelet please.

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