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    What brands or models puzzle you as to why they are popular?

    I was just wondering if anyone feels like me sometimes and simply doesn't get a certain brand of watches that seem to be so popular , overpriced or overrated ?
    . I thought i would start a FRIENDLY thread about this , so I'll start this off , I don't get the brand steinhart , why would people want to buy a watch of a specific brand that specialise in making copies of popular watches , I don't get them and why people spend vast sums of
    Money to buy a watch that looks almost identical to a Rolex , omega etc .... ( I'm ducking for cover right now ) I'm just surprised at how many people value these watches and that they have such a huge following amongst the watch community , when they are simply knock offs of some sort .

    I'm sure many will disagree however do you feel this way towards a certain brand or watch ?

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    Yes, I do. But I think most people balance out brands that they really like with those that they wouldn't wear if they were free.
    Got to be the same with everything from cars to clothes I reckon.

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    These kind of threads ( I don't get XYZ ) are rarely useful and never remain friendly.
    Brings out the resident trolls and flamethrowers with- I don't get Panerais, I don't get Rolex,I don't get IWC or homages or Swatch or Richemont etc It is obvious not everybody likes everything and that quite a few are looking to throw darts.
    There are some models or brands that I don't like but others do. That's fine.
    It is all about respecting others' choices.

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    Well, everything has homages, just look at the myriad of jeans you can buy, that basically all look like every other brand of jeans there are, apart from a label. I think there are people who like watches and for whatever reason can't justify the cost of a Rolex or Omega but like the look of say a Submariner so get something that significantly better priced and still well made, this gives them a little bit of the feeling of having the 'real' thing. I personally have no problem with it myself, though I myself would get a Seiko over a Steinhart.

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    Personally, I don't 'get' Panerai
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Personally, I don't 'get' Panerai
    Me neither. Nor do I think Daytonas deserve the hype,especially the SS models. I also think the DSSD is stupidly big and worn by screamers.

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    Don't get Breitling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Personally, I don't 'get' Panerai
    ^^This^^


    They look like they were drawn by an eight year old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seikopath View Post
    Personally, I don't 'get' Panerai
    I got panerai when they were a niche brand making 10,000 watches for people "in the know". They were super distinctive and totally in line with their heritage (which may or may not be authentic depending on your POV). I don't get them as a mainstream brand though.

    One thing I seriously don't get - grand seiko spring drive chronographs. Very strange designs.

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    A few!!

    I never understood Panerai? However I have said I would like to try one of their smaller offerings just to see???

    Never really understood the mega hype around Speedmasters? Don't get me wrong as a watch I like them but the whole moon thing has sent them to levels they could never reach on their own merits!? Saying that I do like the look of a few 69 variants that have that well faded bezel!! (Not sure they are worth their present price point though?)

    Steinhart have never been my thing and that's really because they all seem to be copies of other brands?

    At the end of the day it's each to their own as I like Sinn and I'm sure people would say they are copies, mostly of old military watches but I like the tweets they do and the quality rules!!

    Anyway it would be a boring world if we all liked the same watches so good luck with whatever takes your fancy😉👍🏻

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    Inevitable that Steinhart will always get flagged in a thread like this. I've never owned one and I'm not looking to acquire one. But by all accounts they're good quality and represent good value for money. The brands that I just don't get are the fashion ones like Gucci, Michael Korrs and the like. Rubbish watches for often substantial sums of money. A waste of money. Why buy that kind of trash when for similar money you can pick up a decent Seiko or a good vintage piece? Anything but a Gucci!

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    To each, there own but I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't get panerai. Also I've Never really been a big lover of the digital display and hands like the breitling areospace, one or the other for me not both.

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    I'll bet if someone did a large scale poll of this question that Panerai and Breitling would be right up at the top, which is in line with early comments here.

    Breitling seem too large, too busy (even when they're not disastrously mixing analogue and digital displays on the same dial) and way too expensive. I also find their TV adverts on the likes of Bloomberg quite irritating.

    I think my first sight of Panerai's offering was some years ago on a (very occasional) wander through Selfridges. Total incomprehension on my part.

    Nonetheless, I appreciate my taste in watches / anything else would leave some people cold, so just go with what appeals to you as an individual has got to be the way to go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Ally- View Post
    Me neither. Nor do I think Daytonas deserve the hype,especially the SS models. I also think the DSSD is stupidly big and worn by screamers.
    Arrrrgggghhhhh! (That's higher pitched than it looks). ;)
    It's just a matter of time...

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    I don't get Hublot.

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    I don't get chronographs. I literally never have to time anything to the second, they look a bit fussy to me and it's something I'd never use. Heresy I know but I also don't get watches without a date function. It's just so useful and done properly doesn't mess up the dial symmetry, so why omit it!?!?


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    Quote Originally Posted by I a n View Post
    I don't get Hublot.

    And Graham and U Boat.

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    Rolex. There I said it. Great watches, but too many fanboys on here with collections that have nothing else in them.

    Wake up and smell the coffee, great watches, but take the blinkers off, there are other great brands too.

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    This thread could get dirty. 😳

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    Ball, Graham, U-boat, Richard Mille, Linde Werdelin, Hublot and Tag.
    I don't get the reverence for the Rolex Daytona either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobDad View Post
    I don't get chronographs. I literally never have to time anything to the second, they look a bit fussy to me and it's something I'd never use. Heresy I know but I also don't get watches without a date function. It's just so useful and done properly doesn't mess up the dial symmetry, so why omit it!?!?


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    Agree with you re chronographs.

    It's not just a question of whether you need to time anything to the second though, is it? Some of them will time it down to one hundredth of a second, which is silly unless you're timing a top level athlete's race time (in which case you wouldn't be doing it using a wristwatch - quite apart from anything else, the accuracy of a person pressing the pusher as he watches a runner crossing the finishing line must be much worse than 1/100th of a second).

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    Rolex Daytona - Just don't get the hype, nice enough watch but the price, seriously?
    Panerai - Again nice watches but I just don't get what justifies the price that seems to be going up by a grand every time I see one. On the subject of Panerai, why do U Boat that are half the price get such a kicking in comparison to Panerai?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    Rolex Daytona - Just don't get the hype, nice enough watch but the price, seriously?
    Panerai - Again nice watches but I just don't get what justifies the price that seems to be going up by a grand every time I see one. On the subject of Panerai, why do U Boat that are half the price get such a kicking in comparison to Panerai?
    You serously don't undersand why people like PAMs and not this

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    The Rolex/Tudor cyclops. I bought a Tudor chrono with a beautiful blue dial, but just didn't bond with it because of the cyclops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP Chestnut View Post
    You serously don't undersand why people like PAMs and not this
    I could probably find some blinged up Panerai on the internet too but that's not my point. Both make large similar style watches yet one is ever rising in price the other in comparison is relatively cheap yet gets a large degree of negative comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    I could probably find some blinged up Panerai on the internet too but that's not my point. Both make large similar style watches yet one is ever rising in price the other in comparison is relatively cheap yet gets a large degree of negative comment.
    I don't like PAMs at all. They're a hokey brand with some bought in silly heritage. However, u-boat is worse. Much worse. Have you ever seen the one that looks like it was submerged in feces for 20 years? Sadly, I don't know the name and couldn't find an image. Panerai isn't great, but u-boat is much worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TF23 View Post
    Agree with you re chronographs.

    It's not just a question of whether you need to time anything to the second though, is it? Some of them will time it down to one hundredth of a second, which is silly unless you're timing a top level athlete's race time (in which case you wouldn't be doing it using a wristwatch - quite apart from anything else, the accuracy of a person pressing the pusher as he watches a runner crossing the finishing line must be much worse than 1/100th of a second).
    I agree to most people the chrono graphs are a useless feature however they do make watches look cool , Daytona and speedy to mention 2


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallasey Runner View Post
    Rolex. There I said it. Great watches, but too many fanboys on here with collections that have nothing else in them.

    Wake up and smell the coffee, great watches, but take the blinkers off, there are other great brands too.
    That's because they don't like watches the way we do, they just like the image and the projection of wealth having several rolexes brings.

    Anyway, on topic - seiko (divers) watches - insanely popular on here but I think they look like shiny children's watches. I don't doubt there must be something about them, but I just can't take them seriously.

    SS Daytona - ugh! The new ceramic Daytona is much nicer but the hype and rareness puts me off (I think the awkward part of my brain just prickles at the hype). Also the DSSD - once tried one and crikey what a clown watch - tiny little bracelet, whopping great big top heavy head.

    Patek Philippe entry level sports watches. The high end stuff is great, but the plain SS nautilus on rubber, for that £££... the nautilus octagonal bezel/case just looks like a blind man chiselled it out.

    But that's what's great about TZUK! Few other watch forums have the eclectic mix we do.
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    Anything bigger than 44mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Normunds View Post
    Anything bigger than 44mm.
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    I'm normally sceptical of threads like these - taking pride in not understanding something doesn't seem like a path to anywhere rewarding - but what is temptation for if not for succumbing to? 😆

    Rolexes get criticised for attracting people with their image etc , but at least the various watches have discernible character . The Speedy Pro , on the other hand , is like a vacuum of interest , the most boring sight possible , a Ford Mondeo , Shepherds Pie , Saturday night telly of a watch . How having one of those on your wrist doesn 't drain the lifeblood from your soul , heaven knows .

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    I don't have any issues with the speedy pro per se but what I completely fail to understand is the hype and inflated prices around the limited editions.

    Every one knows that there'll be another one along in five minutes!


    There are no watches that I don't get, each to their own and all that; it's the hype that surrounds certain watches that I struggle to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert75 View Post
    I could probably find some blinged up Panerai on the internet too but that's not my point. Both make large similar style watches yet one is ever rising in price the other in comparison is relatively cheap yet gets a large degree of negative comment.
    I think u boats are hideous to be honest , Panerai's execute the look better than u boat and I think that's the difference


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    I find some forum darlings a bit boring.

    any speedmaster, dull as they come for me.

    any Rolex that isn't the DSSD, so teeny tiny.

    most PP, also so tiny and to my eyes, feminine.

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    The Graham Chronofighter. How can anyone live with the huge carbuncle on the crown side of these watches ?

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    Panerai, U-boat, TW Steel, Hublot just to name a few.

    Rolex. Blimey, too many fans with nothing else in their collection.

    Speedmaster LEs. One every 5 minutes.

    Anything over 44mm as well. Might as well strap a pocket watch on your wrist.

    Fashion watches. Michael Kors, DKNY. Just tat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seikoboy View Post
    I think u boats are hideous to be honest , Panerai's execute the look better than u boat and I think that's the difference


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    If you compare the base Panerai models and U boat the differences are obvious. I've owned a few 44mm Pams and they wore much smaller and flatter than you'd imagine, and something about the proportions was just right. Mind you Richemont seem unable to service one without wrecking something in the process but that's not what we're discussing here. I


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    Unlike many on this forum I just can't seem to get into omega. I have tried on in ADs and also mates watches, just am not drawn to them. I have a varied collection, (Rolex, Panerai, Cartier, TAG, g shock, Ingersol) and would like to add some other makes. Just can't get into omega. Dunno why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Ally- View Post
    Me neither. Nor do I think Daytonas deserve the hype,especially the SS models. I also think the DSSD is stupidly big and worn by screamers.
    Exactly!

    Also the "must have" affection shown towards a shonky, fat GMT-Master with a black and blue bezel.........

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    Speedmasters leave me cold.

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    No brand puzzles me at all much the same with cars, clothes etc, each to their own.

    I think I can pretty much look at anything and appreciate an element positively even if as a whole I don't like.

    I have watches in my collection that I did not 'get' until I handled and eventually purchased.

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    Stainless steel "sports" watches from Patek, AP, Vacheron

    Pretty much anything in the mid-price bracket such as Sinn. Nice but I don't see the point. Keep it cheap and cheerful, or put money into what you really want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helidoc View Post
    Stainless steel "sports" watches from Patek, AP, Vacheron

    Pretty much anything in the mid-price bracket such as Sinn. Nice but I don't see the point. Keep it cheap and cheerful, or put money into what you really want.

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    Perhaps a Sinn is what someone really wants Dave ☺️

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    Quote Originally Posted by helidoc View Post
    Pretty much anything in the mid-price bracket such as Sinn. Nice but I don't see the point. Keep it cheap and cheerful, or put money into what you really want.
    Fortunately, from the perspective of people who normally shop in the cheap and cheerful bracket, and who could never make a reasonable case for buying something at the upper end of midrange, eg Rolex / Omega, the difference in quality between the cheap watches and German brands such as Sinn, Nivrel, Tourby etc is a lot clearer than it seems to be for you. Furthermore, in the case of Sinn, they've several distinctive designs which to plenty of people are preferable to their Omega and Breitling equivalents, eg in terms of their design, preferring the Sinn 857 UTC to a Planet Ocean GMT would not be bizarre.

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    What brands or models puzzle you as to why they are popular?

    Wasn't trying to be needle the Sinn fans, honest! ;)

    I guess most WIS have a large potential acquisition list, that occupies more brain time than it should. I'm no exception to this, but stuff in the roughly 500-2000 range isn't in my mind at all. I wouldn't suggest that Sinn make anything other than a very decent watch, and I have always maintained that if you don't want to play in the (foolish) luxury market, then a 556i was a solid choice. These kind of lists are always personal.

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    Ball, Bell & Ross U-Boat and Graham

    Didn't get Panerai until i tried one on...... bought it

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    Well I haven't tried most of the well known brands, or even put one on - but there are a few words/things that turn me off when browsing watch forums. Not because I necessarily don't like the items they refer to but because I simply haven't developed an interest in them yet - maybe never will:

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    Any Rolex ref
    Speedmaster
    Super thick leather straps
    Panerai buckles
    Panerai watches though I'd like to try a 42mm
    Hairy wrists (mine included)
    Smooth baby skin wrists
    Wrists
    People talking about waiting for a phone call from an 'AD'
    Increasingly - very expensive watches with ETA movements (seems like a car company not making their own engines)
    Myself for spending too long looking at watches
    Coloured watch faces (not including silver/black/white tones)
    Rubber straps
    Tachometer bezels or pulsation marks

    .....hang tags

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    Quote Originally Posted by ped View Post
    Well I haven't tried most of the well known brands, or even put one on - but there are a few words/things that turn me off when browsing watch forums. Not because I necessarily don't like the items they refer to but because I simply haven't developed an interest in them yet - maybe never will:

    BLNR
    Any Rolex ref
    Speedmaster
    Super thick leather straps
    Panerai buckles
    Panerai watches though I'd like to try a 42mm
    Hairy wrists (mine included)
    Smooth baby skin wrists
    Wrists
    People talking about waiting for a phone call from an 'AD'
    Increasingly - very expensive watches with ETA movements (seems like a car company not making their own engines)
    Myself for spending too long looking at watches
    Coloured watch faces (not including silver/black/white tones)
    Rubber straps
    Tachometer bezels or pulsation marks

    .....hang tags
    Haha. V good. Yeah, the waiting for dealer's call is a particular yawn-fest. Hairless wrists also make me go yuck!

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    Surprised no one has mentioned Romain Jerome. One might say they aren't popular but why anyone at all wants to spend a fortune on a watch with a piece of rocket/moon/car/crisp packet it it is totally beyond me...

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