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    Painting kitchen doors

    I have an oak kitchen which is still serviceable but looks dated with its stained dark brown colour. I thought about door replacement which is a little over £700 but still have end panels, cooker housing etc which I'd need to paint.
    Has anyone ever painted wooden doors and what was the durability like?
    I thought of an eggshell finish but a quick Google shows prices from a couple of quid to stuff like Little Greene oil based eggshell at £98 for 5l. So is the expensive eggshell better than a Dulux or Crown equivalent?
    Thanks, Paul
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    I've used Johnstones Trade Pro paint (Eggshell) on a few kitchen doors. It's great paint and very hard wearing. Should be about £25 for 2.5ltrs

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    In a previous house I painted laminate kitchen doors with (I think) dulux cupboard paint and it certainly improved their appearance.

    They wore pretty well and would cope with a good scrub to keep them clean.

    There was some wear over time but another coat tidied things up.

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    A few years ago my wife sanded our old oak kitchen doors- she made a great job of them - we re waxed them and made the jot hen last another -fair few years
    You could just replace them end panels with new laminated cream ones quite simply
    I also replaced the plinths with midfield mouldings I sprayed cream
    Totally transformed an aged kitchen

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    Give them a good wash down to de-grease them then apply a coat or two of this prior to undercoating and top coating.
    It works wonders.

    http://http://www.zinsseruk.com/prod...ain-deep-tint/

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    I'd consider getting them sprayed
    Good luck everybody. Have a good one.

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    My dad has just got his sprayed and they turned out really well.

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    Unless the kitchen is caravan sized, spraying will blow the aforementioned 700 nicker budget out of the water I'd think...

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    I've painted dozens of kitchens, I've even been painting one today.New, old, wooden or melamine they all paint up well, I also paint bedrooms,kitchens and bathrooms for this guy http://matthewstevensjoinery.co.uk/

    Take your time and it will last for years if you do as Reggie says and use the Zinnser primer
    Little Green and Farrow + Ball paint are no better it's just that the colours have been very popular for the past few years. Any questions I'm happy to help maybe stick a picture up of your kitchen so we've a better idea

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    Cheers Mickey, Reggie.
    So Zinnser primer then any undercoat and then any topcoat? Do you sand between coats?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulSim View Post
    Cheers Mickey, Reggie.
    So Zinnser primer then any undercoat and then any topcoat? Do you sand between coats?
    Thanks
    I'm fussy enough to give a light nib with the finest wet or dry you can get hold of between coats.
    An oil based eggshell top coat over a full, non grinning oil based undercoat (maybe 2) should suffice.
    It's all about the prep work innit ?

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    Which Zinsser primer is best for varnished/lacquered kitchen cabinets?

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    I had the decorator I use at work come over and do ours. £150 including paint and they've stood up well. He used Johnstones, I think

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    swap the doors out, its the only way to be sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingstepper View Post
    Which Zinsser primer is best for varnished/lacquered kitchen cabinets?
    I would use the Shellac based one it will also stop any other stuff in timber bleeding through. We use it for all manner of things in the trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hilly10 View Post
    I would use the Shellac based one it will also stop any other stuff in timber bleeding through. We use it for all manner of things in the trade.
    Thanks!

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    Brush or roller?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogthrob View Post
    Brush or roller?
    Roller, then lay it off with a brush to get rid of the orange peel effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod View Post
    I've used Johnstones Trade Pro paint (Eggshell) on a few kitchen doors. It's great paint and very hard wearing. Should be about £25 for 2.5ltrs
    My Decorator swears by Jonstone's, had all the white stuff including doors done with oli-based Jonstone white. Twenty five year ago he had used exacly the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hilly10 View Post
    I would use the Shellac based one it will also stop any other stuff in timber bleeding through. We use it for all manner of things in the trade.

    I should add the shellac is just the primer, you can use whatever you want on top to finish it. Top tip between coats use a very fine cabinet finishing paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogthrob View Post
    Brush or roller?
    I use rollers, not all my customers want to see brush marks but the one I've been doing this week does so it was all done by brush. Don't buy the garbage from b&q go to a merchant and with a good mini roller and taking your time you can get a spray like finish
    If I'm painting an older/existing kitchen
    1 coat Zinsser tinted to finish colour
    2 coats oil based eggshell
    If customer wants a laquer finish I use acrylic eggshell for speed and drying time then finish with a Morrells laquer
    If I have enough room I sometimes spray the doors and finish the frames with brush/roller

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    We had a pine kitchen hand painted and finished with a matt lacquer of some sort - looked great and gave us another 8 years out of the kitchen before finally replacing it. Sorry, I don't know the paint details, but as an idea, it's sound.

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    Out of interest, is it possible to paint contemporary gloss kitchens? Move from gloss to something more matte?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalVilla View Post
    Out of interest, is it possible to paint contemporary gloss kitchens? Move from gloss to something more matte?
    If is glossy because of vinyl wrapping (frequently used now), I do not know. All other finish will be sufficient to prep with fine sanding, primer coat and then whatever you want

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    I’ve thought loads of times about having our kitchen painted/sprayed and am always concerned it’s too much of a risk if it doesn’t look right. The painter and decorator I’ve used for years has always been dubious about it looking right.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Devonian View Post
    I’ve thought loads of times about having our kitchen painted/sprayed and am always concerned it’s too much of a risk if it doesn’t look right. The painter and decorator I’ve used for years has always been dubious about it looking right.


    Personally, I would leave that alone mate. Great looking, high quality kitchen already.

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    Painting kitchen doors

    That’s a beautiful kitchen and obviously good quality I wouldn’t wreck it painting it, if you do though make sure you buy top quality paint

    I’m no expert but I would volunteer Mrs macca FOC for you, she’s the interior design and up cycling guru in our house, she would be able to give you some pointers I’m sure

    Let me know if you want some input I’ll have to bribe her with chocolate


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    Last edited by Macca; 19th May 2020 at 09:15.

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    Nice thread resurrection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickylall View Post
    I've painted dozens of kitchens, I've even been painting one today.New, old, wooden or melamine they all paint up well, I also paint bedrooms,kitchens and bathrooms for this guy http://matthewstevensjoinery.co.uk/

    Take your time and it will last for years if you do as Reggie says and use the Zinnser primer
    Little Green and Farrow + Ball paint are no better it's just that the colours have been very popular for the past few years. Any questions I'm happy to help maybe stick a picture up of your kitchen so we've a better idea
    Is it worth trying to resurrect melamine coated cupboards if they have blown a bit in places, something myself and the mrs have wrestled with or just throw it away, but a new kitchen and use the good bits of the old one in the garage utility


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    Quote Originally Posted by hogthrob View Post
    Nice thread resurrection.
    Sammy again of course.

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    Yes you're both right, thank you. would be silly to risk painting it I'm sure, but after 14 years (I think) you kind of want a change - different colour. we did paint the ceiling white (that was medium brown wood colour) which has made a huge difference. Our oven is at the end of its life span and we can't get the elements to replace it (tried Rangemaster themselves who can't even find the reference number to their own product!! Plus a couple of Electricians and an oven specialist), so we're looking at something with colour. Smeg do some wonderful coloured ovens, so we'll see what else we can find.


    Quote Originally Posted by Iain73 View Post
    Personally, I would leave that alone mate. Great looking, high quality kitchen already.
    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    That’s a beautiful kitchen and obviously good quality I wouldn’t wreck it painting it, if you do though make sure you buy top quality paint

    I’m no expert but I would volunteer Mrs macca FOC for you, she’s the interior design and up cycling guru in our house, she would be able to give you some pointers I’m sure

    Let me know if you want some input I’ll have to bribe her with chocolate


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    That’s understandable I guess, actually we have a similar issue with our Neff oven


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    Quote Originally Posted by Devonian View Post
    Yes you're both right, thank you. would be silly to risk painting it I'm sure, but after 14 years (I think) you kind of want a change - different colour. we did paint the ceiling white (that was medium brown wood colour) which has made a huge difference. Our oven is at the end of its life span and we can't get the elements to replace it (tried Rangemaster themselves who can't even find the reference number to their own product!! Plus a couple of Electricians and an oven specialist), so we're looking at something with colour. Smeg do some wonderful coloured ovens, so we'll see what else we can find.
    Solid colour on the walls makes a big difference as well. I just painted my utility room sage green and replaced the back splash with the same colour tiles I think it looks great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SammyS View Post
    I also would be pretty interested in this topic, too.

    Our kitchen is getting a bit old, but it seems to have been build by a proper cabinet maker and the quality is a lot better than most kitchen companies sell nowadays.
    All the doors (despite laminate on top) are really heavy and of a solid build, the hinges great and working like a charm, etc...

    All we would like to do is give them a new high gloss white finish and add a new bench top. I found some tips on https://wooddiys.com/best-paint-for-laminate-cabinets, still I'm interested in other experiences as well. :)
    Interesting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalVilla View Post
    Out of interest, is it possible to paint contemporary gloss kitchens? Move from gloss to something more matte?
    Yes, it's not a problem as long as the right paint is used

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devonian View Post
    I’ve thought loads of times about having our kitchen painted/sprayed and am always concerned it’s too much of a risk if it doesn’t look right. The painter and decorator I’ve used for years has always been dubious about it looking right.



    I've painted a lot of kitchens like this and they always come up looking like new, with the products on the market now I've never had a problem with paint peeling or chipping. Been back and re-painted them after several years only because the owners fancy a change of colour

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Is it worth trying to resurrect melamine coated cupboards if they have blown a bit in places, something myself and the mrs have wrestled with or just throw it away, but a new kitchen and use the good bits of the old one in the garage utility


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    Depends how badly they have blown, if not too bad they can be painted just takes a bit more time/ prep

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