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    Debate from Mumsnet

    I know, I know. However I thought it might foster some debate here!

    Basically a family were on a long haul flight and a child was sick and it trickles down to the row of seats behind and some of it gets on a handbag belonging to a fellow passenger. The handbag is cleaned off and looks as good as it did before however the owner is demanding that the mother of the vomiting child pays up for a replacement. The bag is of course a Louis Vuitton number at £900.

    What are your thoughts?

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    Travel insurance claim.

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    A polite but firm bugger off.

    Im sure some of the 'kids should be kept in a locked room,out of sight and never allowed to darken public transport' brigade will be along shortly to say otherwise.

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    I'd tell the bag owner to do one, personally.

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    As long as they can prove there and then it's genuine, that would be a start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phil h View Post
    Travel insurance claim.
    This.
    Let the insurers fight it out.
    I wouldn't be happy if someone puked over my property even if it cleaned up ok.
    It's like buying a new car, getting it bumped and repaired.
    Spoils the enjoyment of ownership a bit I recon.

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    Should have been in the overhead not clogging up the floor. 'nuff said

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    I'm sorry but 900 quid for a bag and what was it doing on the floor. If my Mrs ever bought a bag like that, in her dreams maybe, then I would expect her to handcuff it to her wrist!

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    Guessing this is a hypothetical one, as a handbag should be safely stowed, not under a seat and the usual very expensive bit of kit being damaged.

    For me the woman would have to show that actual damage had occurred and that the value being claimed is the value, i.e. a ten year old mid range bag that's seen better days isn't being claimed as a brand new top of the range one. I would offer to pay up a certain amount if it were me, but again, after proving it was damage that could not be repaired and that it's for an amount that the bag was worth, as anyone travelling cattle class with a 900 quid handbag is a bit suspect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    Should have been in the overhead not clogging up the floor. 'nuff said
    I agree but the stewardesses look at you funny when you put the kids up there.

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    Bag not correctly stored in a locker. Her fault. The end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico View Post
    I know, I know. However I thought it might foster some debate here!

    Basically a family were on a long haul flight and a child was sick and it trickles down to the row of seats behind and some of it gets on a handbag belonging to a fellow passenger. The handbag is cleaned off and looks as good as it did before however the owner is demanding that the mother of the vomiting child pays up for a replacement. The bag is of course a Louis Vuitton number at £900.

    What are your thoughts?
    I wouldn't dream of buying the wife a LV bag at £900...... bin it and get her a proper bag not one for the wannabes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argee1977 View Post
    Guessing this is a hypothetical one, as a handbag should be safely stowed, not under a seat and the usual very expensive bit of kit being damaged.

    For me the woman would have to show that actual damage had occurred and that the value being claimed is the value, i.e. a ten year old mid range bag that's seen better days isn't being claimed as a brand new top of the range one. I would offer to pay up a certain amount if it were me, but again, after proving it was damage that could not be repaired and that it's for an amount that the bag was worth, as anyone travelling cattle class with a 900 quid handbag is a bit suspect!
    It happened in real life according to Mumsnet...

    The twist is that the bag apparently still smells of vomit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padders View Post
    I agree but the stewardesses look at you funny when you put the kids up there.
    Ha! Good one.

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    If it cleaned up, then I see no issue. I imagine this isn't the same as the new car notion stated above, else there would be no chance it was on the floor, she'd be clutching it to her chest out of fear someone breathed on it.

    I also have to question the legitimacy of the claim regarding fakery etc. £900 doesn't buy you an LV handbag, not even close. Just take a look at their website. So what exactly is it that she was trying to claim would be £900 to replace?

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    Lots of girls put their bags by their feet on long haul, stewardesses on most flight ok with this , just not on exit rows.


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    Debate from Mumsnet

    On some flights, when the plane is full, the crew asks people to store bags by their feet. That is perfectly correct way to store bags.

    Edit. And I would expect the bag owners travel insurance should cover any damages.
    Last edited by EJL25; 2nd November 2016 at 20:59.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seadog1408 View Post
    Lots of girls put their bags by their feet on long haul, stewardesses on most flight ok with this , just not on exit rows.


    mike
    Then you should do so accepting that there may be consequences, whether this is a child being sick, or drinks being spilled, kicked by someone trying to stretch their legs out a bit, etc etc.

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    I take it the airline was Jet-spew?

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    Bunch of 'wimmin' on a watch forum discussing £900 handbags and moaning etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morning Wood View Post
    I take it the airline was Jet-spew?
    They don't do long hurl


    On topic: no brainer. Tell the person wanting money to do one. What's a person who has a LV bag doing mixing with the scum in cattle class for this to be able to happen anyway?
    Last edited by SteveR; 2nd November 2016 at 20:29.

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    Coming soon to sales corner....

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    I thought you had to have done something wrong to be liable for damage, this sounds like an accident. Bag owner should claim on insurance, would travel cover this? House insurance might be a better option..

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    Id also tell the bag owner to do one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reggie747 View Post
    Should have been in the overhead not clogging up the floor. 'nuff said
    Don't be daft... the vomit would have gone on people's head then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico View Post

    The twist is that the bag apparently still smells of vomit.

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    Nothing a good clean won't fix. I can't imagine a small amount of sick can cause £900 worth of damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisparker View Post
    Nothing a good clean won't fix. I can't imagine a small amount of sick can cause £900 worth of damage.
    I read it as the replacement cost?
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    The child should cough up

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    These types of claims make my stomach turn.

    I wish people wouldn't bring them up.

    The same thing, regurgitated time and again.

    Just sick of it.











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    I wonder if the answers here would be slightly different if . . . . . .

    A stranger on a plane has a child who say throws something or knocks something and randomly it hits your watch, cracks the glass etc and does £900 worth of damage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devonian View Post
    I wonder if the answers here would be slightly different if . . . . . .

    A stranger on a plane has a child who say throws something or knocks something and randomly it hits your watch, cracks the glass etc and does £900 worth of damage
    No doubt some bint on mumsnet would want to know why someone with an expensive watch is mingling with "scum in cattle class"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    I read it as the replacement cost?
    Exactly how I read it, and £900 does not buy you a replacement LV handbag, unless she was happy to cough up the other £1-2000 needed. Just a purse is £1400. I reckon it might be a scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padders View Post
    I agree but the stewardesses look at you funny when you put the kids up there.
    In some parts of the world it's not unknown for kids to be stowed in the overhead lockers in-flight.

    Back in the day they had a compromise:



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    Quote Originally Posted by hafle View Post
    Exactly how I read it, and £900 does not buy you a replacement LV handbag, unless she was happy to cough up the other £1-2000 needed. Just a purse is £1400. I reckon it might be a scam.
    Dunno?

    Suppose we will never know?

    As for the 'shock horror' expensive hand bag stuff - on a watch forum....... PMSL.

    Did an internal flight in the USA last year and a woman brought 2 dogs onboard......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_in_the_UK View Post
    Dunno?

    Suppose we will never know?

    As for the 'shock horror' expensive hand bag stuff - on a watch forum....... PMSL.

    Did an internal flight in the USA last year and a woman brought 2 dogs onboard......
    LV handbags can be had for less than £900; I know, as it's the trade off for me buying watches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaOmega View Post
    These types of claims make my stomach turn.

    I wish people wouldn't bring them up.

    The same thing, regurgitated time and again.

    Just sick of it.











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    It all sounds a little spewious to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devonian View Post
    I wonder if the answers here would be slightly different if . . . . . .

    A stranger on a plane has a child who say throws something or knocks something and randomly it hits your watch, cracks the glass etc and does £900 worth of damage
    The answers would probably be much the same i.e. Claim on the insurance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hafle View Post
    Exactly how I read it, and £900 does not buy you a replacement LV handbag, unless she was happy to cough up the other £1-2000 needed. Just a purse is £1400. I reckon it might be a scam.
    You have said this twice, but you are wrong. I bought my wife an LV handbag from the LV boutique in Birmingham last October for £800 and it wasn't on sale (I wish) because LV don't do sales.
    Oh and we fly cattle class

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    £625 will get you a LV handbag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hafle View Post
    Exactly how I read it, and £900 does not buy you a replacement LV handbag, unless she was happy to cough up the other £1-2000 needed. Just a purse is £1400. I reckon it might be a scam.
    Sorry the monogram range is a lot less costly than their real stuff. You know the stuff they start on before graduation to the hard stuff.

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    Travel insurance.
    You can legintimately keep a bag by your feet and in fairness I'd be doing my dinger at a bag infused with spew courtesy of somebody else.

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    Bag lady can bugger off.

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    I think a more pertinent question would be : why the hell are you on mumsnet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asteclaru View Post
    I think a more pertinent question would be : why the hell are you on mumsnet?
    I thought this would have been asked much sooner! I was reading a news article that referenced it...I promise!

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    Ah the joys of flying with riff raff..
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    I've been wondering why kids today seem to have a strong sense of entitlement and no sense of personal responsibility. Turns out it's hereditary.

    Your kid, you clean up its mess.

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    They did didn't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groundrush View Post
    I've been wondering why kids today seem to have a strong sense of entitlement and no sense of personal responsibility. Turns out it's hereditary.

    Your kid, you clean up its mess.
    As a previous owner of "Kids" i agree entirely with your view. I'd have taken full responsibility if one of mine was ever sick on someone else's property or possessions.
    Fortunately no longer kids so they can now take responsibility for their own vomit. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by seadog1408 View Post
    Lots of girls put their bags by their feet on long haul, stewardesses on most flight ok with this , just not on exit rows.


    mike

    If its a full flight and the passenger has a carry on bag, they are told to put their handbag under the seat in front irrespective of how much it cost.

    Well on BA they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groundrush;[URL="tel:4134003"
    4134003[/URL]]I've been wondering why kids today seem to have a strong sense of entitlement and no sense of personal responsibility. Turns out it's hereditary.

    Your kid, you clean up its mess.

    Totally agree.

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    The standard Louis Vuitton monogram bags are coated canvas. I find it very hard to believe that it would still smell of vomit. I've got a few bits which are around a decade old and have had various spillages on and in them and none of them smell. The passenger is just trying it on.

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