Reply With QuoteI have zero idea as to it's worrh but do like it on the strap with blue stitching, the back looks interesting too in a Breitling way and i always love a see through case.
A close friend has been offered a Bremont Apache from a friend and Apache pilot. Its a limited edition GMT Chronograph which was only available to purchase to UK Apache pilots who had commanded in at least 2 tours in Afghanistan. I haven't pictures of the actual watch, but here's a poor on-line image of the same watch:
The Bremont website says very little about the watch bar this:
So, the question... is this worth grabbing with both hands?... or is this just another gimmick/limited edition that adds no value. I can't see how many were made, but read that similar runs were of <40 watches. My initial advice to him was that it's not worth chasing (asides from the fact he has just bought himself a brand new BLNR!) - but just wanted to check here in case this ACTUALLY is considered to be one worth taking an offer up on.3 REGIMENT ARMY AIR CORP
The Apache-inspired GMT Chronograph was developed with 3 Regiment Army Air Corp, based at Wattisham, UK. The 3AAC provides the offensive air elements of the 16th Air Assault Brigade. This watch was developed for aircrew who had commanded in at least two tours of Afghanistan.
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I have zero idea as to it's worrh but do like it on the strap with blue stitching, the back looks interesting too in a Breitling way and i always love a see through case.
How many of them could they possibly have sold?
You had to do two tours and you had to buy it?
To me, it's gimmick, completely.
Tell your friend to save his money.
My thoughts precisely. Plus.. if it were me, I'd feel similar to the way I'd feel wearing a fake. I'm no Apache pilot and haven't earned the right to pretend to be one either!Originally Posted by reggie747
^^^ what he said.
Although plenty of non swimmers doubtless wear dive watches.
I don't know much about Bremont, but this watch looks remarkably similar to another one of their LEs
Boeing watch! I believe that they manufacture the Apache too.
It looks like they're trying to repeat the "exclusive" limited run again... and again... with different military groups: http://www.bremont.com/military
I've totally had it with these 2 Hombres I tell ya !
What next, EasyJet and Ryanair LEs?!
The Apache only has digital time on the EUFD. It also has a stopwatch with flyback functionality.
If you like it, get it because you like it.
Looking forward to the day when they sell a watch without some macho storyline to go with it.
Regardless of anything else, I really like the look of that.
It's just a matter of time...
If the price is right and he likes it, why not. If it only has the helicopter and no actual regiment ID etc, decent looking watch, I like the brown face version.
Just what I was thinking.
I have the same watch in the non LE version and love it.
Wouldn't pay a premium for the LE as it would not mean anything
A handsome looking watch. Reminds me of the BP Bathyscape Chrono.
The watch doesn't really do anything for me, but I had to smile at the army association.
I had many a fun time in Soest and at Wattisham whilst attached to 3 Regt AAC.
663 Sqn all the way
Interesting that you use the word premium. The reason that these Bremont squadron/regiment specials sell is that they are usually half price to serving personnel. Looking at it one way, the right price for the used LEs is half the price of the normal equvelent!
Breitling did this to death in the 99s/2000s and their countless 'specials' no longer have any premium over an unbranded version so buy the watch not the badge or dubious mil connection.
I actually rather like the Boeing watch range but I'd feel odd wearing one that was exclusively for Apache pilots unless it had significance to me. Cheaper service pricing may sway some buyers but the watch would not be for me.
Its the HMAS Adelaide MBII, that gets me? not sure why a ship would want a watch linked with an ejection seat manufacturer?
Finally going off the deep end!!!!
It's a novelty that means nothing to anyone other than the buyer that qualifies for it. They haven't done the rotor hands either like they did with the Chinook special edition, they've just printed it over the top of the subdial. The Chinook was actually pretty cool.
Sad to hear. Be well.
The military projects are not commissioned by Bremont, the sqn's approach Bremont. As said they have taken over the Brietling mantle for watch to be seen wearing in the mess, I don't know why you would want one though if you didn't have an attachment to it, but you will always find a Walter who will piss on his Gran to get one. Of note if you sell it on Bremont will void the warrantee on it, so if you are thinking of buying it to punt on that may hinder you.
I would also add the MB range is lovely, a good rugged take on the modern pilots watch, it doesnt have to bee for just the fast jet peeps.
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It puts me right off
It gets worse they have watch for people who've ejected as well
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Why they get a tie, whats the issue with a wach? Its no different from a sqn mug, T shirt, print, rugby kit etc. Terraine promotion make a fortune from sqn mugs, same with squadronprints. I notice no one winges about Breitling,Omega, Tag, Bell & Ross and Chris Ward doing it.
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Surely this is drivel, selling someone a watch isn't the same as?
Bremont has always had a very tight working relationship with the military and, as a result, operates very closely with multiple elite crew and squadrons around the world such as the B-2, USNTPS, F-22, C-17, B-52, Apache 3 Regiment AAC, VFA-81, VFA-11, 29(R) Typhoon Squadron, 30-RS, to name a few. Bremont helps them develop bespoke mechanical chronometers that closely mirror their Squadron’s DNA. Working in line with Bremont’s core principles, Bremont has been able to do something that no other luxury watch brand has been able to do - deliver watches that are uncompromisingly Bremont, but also very unique on a squadron level. Click here to read more on Bremont and the military.
Thing is you can't walk in to you local Bremont retailer and buy one of these custom jobs, they come direct from Henley and each order has to be varified by the project lead from the squadron that you are eligible to buy.
They did a LE for the Lynx Crews which had the marks in service as the markers so just 1,7 and 9 which looked strange and I only knew 1 person who admitted buying one and there were a lot of Lynx Crews over its history.
If you have the money and want it get it, doing 2 tours was easy and they could well afford them if they wanted to so there might be a few about.
That's the first Bremont I've seen I actually like, apart from that bloody date window at 4:30! Ok, and the helicopter. Lose those (just delete the date completely) and it would be a very attractive watch.
I'd rather not have a helicopter on the dial but then I still don't know how a tachymetre works, or go diving, so what does it matter? As someone else pointed out, if your mate likes it he should buy it, but I'm not sure what demand there is for them and will be in the future if he's hoping to make some money on it.
"A man of little significance"
Personally I think it looks pretty nice (though the non-LE is probably nicer) however, I could never ever wear it as I'd feel such a fraud, and what's the point of a watch you can't wear?
I can't really get my head around the problem here. If I wear a moonwatch or something worn by a fictional spy in a movie, am I a fraud? I guess if I go around pretending to be an astronaut or a spy, yes. In the unlikely event that anyone ever recognises the Bremont and, knowing the story, asks you if you're a helicopter pilot, wouldn't you simply say "no but I bought it from one"? It's just a nice watch with a slightly more interesting back story than most - nothing to get uptight about.
I suspect the OP's question was more about whether there is any money money to be made from it, which I rather doubt.
When you put it that way... you're quite right. Its just a rather interesting piece which you won't see too often.
As to the question about money.... my angle was indeed trying to work out if there is value attached to this - perhaps not so much for future profit, but more to gauge if the asking price (£3k) was a waste of good money.
Herein lies the problem: these are sold at a discounted price to squadron / crew members. Anyone who intends to make a turn on one in the first three years invalidates the warranty (as per the Ts & Cs of their deposit / purchase). It's a nice profit for the seller. But you may end up with a watch that no longer has the three year warranty...
And, of course, Bremont (and the organisers of the group purchase) will know that the original purchaser sold it on at an immediate profit.
I too don't understand why people get their panties in a bunch.
I would not pay a premium if there was one but what is the problem if someone commissions a model for their division,army or otherwise.
Don't forget Wizz.What next, EasyJet and Ryanair LEs?!
That is quite different I think - the Speedmaster was not commissioned for and sold only to Apollo astronauts. Ditto the Omega for spies ...
It is a bit buffling reading all the comments about bremont special editions not commanding a premium. I agree that they produce the same watch without a special dial etc etc.
But can someone explain then why some comex submariners are going for 100000 nowadays?
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A, No one really wants a Bremont in the first placeIt is a bit buffling reading all the comments about bremont special editions not commanding a premium. I agree that they produce the same watch without a special dial etc etc.
But can someone explain then why some comex submariners are going for 100000 nowadays?
B, The last Comex Sub I bid on this year only sold for 21k
Tin Hat on now awaiting some flack over A.
Well that was a bargain! I hope you got it!
http://www.hqmilton.com/watches/1977...-hudson-letter
This is what some of them are going for at the moment...
21k still does not justify the price difference compared to a regular dial if all the above comments are to be taken seriously...
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PMSL 100's on our dear TZ alone i think.
In the pub recently and a guy I see there often is basically loaded and shows it off, lambo in the car park - that sort of bloke..
Anyway I hear him chatting about his watch while i'm waiting to be served, he's saying this watch has been to the top of Mount Everest on an army expedition, its one of a kind and I bought it off the officer leading the expedition, I could see from a distance it looked like a blingy Breitling, long story short he didnt make it to the top of Everest the watch did but he had the cash to show it off..
Eddie, any chance you can post that awesome Breeemont animation again, might help a few on here?
Please don't,Eddie. I haven't seen the animation in question and would imagine there is mockery involved.
Contrary to what some may think, nothing cute about one British watchmaker poking fun at another.
There is a not so subtle difference between a Comex Sub and a LE Bremont.
I am quite fond of few of Bremont models but I would be surprised to see them selling for a premium.
I have seen Chinese made Comex subs going for less.
I did not try in anyway to compare the bremont to the sub or the significance a limited edition bremont beats in comparison to the comex subs.
I know there is a lot of history involved in regards to subs with helium valves etc.
However, I still maintain that a 5513 with a regular dial is not so much different if at all than a comex 5513...
the market though seems to pay the premium for them. Same goes for Tiffany dials etc.
So whether some limited edition watches start selling for more than their pedestrian counterparts in the future is for the market to decide...
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It's called having a sense of humour and perspective mate.
Much better way to be humorous than mocking a competitor within a captive audience ( not suggesting that is what Eddie is doing but what you want him to do )
It is called good taste and decorum.
And, they are competitors even if catering to different segments.
Eddie's watches can speak for him and they do- I could just do with two watches PRS 14 and 18 and get rid of everything else from my collection.
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