The unified Rolex in the window thread

[noTAGlove]

Given SC is now in Rolex offloading mode to try and catch the top of the market, you never know, you may actually be soon able to buy a relatively unpopular model from the ADs window soon.

Another 10-20% off each of the Nasdaq, S&P and Dow will seal this trinkets fate.

[Jack83]

I had a nice chat with Maria in WoS next to Liverpool Street station and put my name down for an OP36 - they had a datejust 36 and OP 41 to try on (not available to buy). I was offered a drink and we chatted about watches for a bit. A better experience than I expected!

[MartynJC (UK)]

Rolex shop in Geneva airport
Incredible selection including Steel Daytonas

That reminds me on another thing.
I was over in Geneva a few weeks ago and was amazed how helpful the staff were in the high end watch shops.
Never once did you get the feeling it was a chore.
The PP store is quite a place.

More information please! I checked and a flight is maybe 150€ from here.. Where they for sale (PP and Rolex)?

[Hood]

More information please! I checked and a flight is maybe 150€ from here.. Where they for sale (PP and Rolex)?

Display only in the Rolex shop at the airport or to b.e more specific I heard the lady say to a guy that they were all customers watches.
Basically not for sale.
The shops in the centre are fantastic.
Not sure if any PPs were available as I was only in for a browse

Some great indy vintage stuff too.

[Nairn1980]

More information please! I checked and a flight is maybe 150€ from here.. Where they for sale (PP and Rolex)?

LOL

[Devonian]

More information please! I checked and a flight is maybe 150€ from here.. Where they for sale (PP and Rolex)?

Take a roll of the dice Martyn, book a flight, get yourself over there and hope there’s a steel Daytona or two languishing in an AD window, calling out for you to chap it up

[Nairn1980]

Take a roll of the dice Martyn, book a flight, get yourself over there and hope there’s a steel Daytona or two languishing in an AD window, calling out for you to chap it up

Setting the poor dude up for failure there LOL

[sandman]

Setting the poor dude up for failure there LOL

Isn’t that what this whole thread is about these days? Folk posting about seeing watches that are not for sale?

[watchmad]

Reading Goldsmiths...three GMTs, DSSD, bi-Colour SD, sub no-date and Sub date - all "Exhibition Only" Heard the salesperson taking on the phone...."you have to come in and create a relationship with us to be considered for a GMT....."

[markrlondon]

"you have to come in and create a relationship with us to be considered for a GMT....."

That really, really makes me cringe.

[blackal]

Isn’t that what this whole thread is about these days? Folk posting about seeing watches that are not for sale?

Like "Twitchers".............................


"Great spotted Daytona in Goldsmiths, Bond Street - showing well"

Lame.

[Gareth-W]

More information please! I checked and a flight is maybe 150€ from here.. Where they for sale (PP and Rolex)?

TZ Group Buy/GTG in Geneva?!

Hit the watch shops and hoover up the stock!

[David_D]

Reading Goldsmiths...three GMTs, DSSD, bi-Colour SD, sub no-date and Sub date - all "Exhibition Only" Heard the salesperson taking on the phone...."you have to come in and create a relationship with us to be considered for a GMT....."

That really, really makes me cringe.

That’s an understatement. It’s also obviously cobblers. Pretty clear it’s about spending a lot. That’s fine but just say so and stop messing everyone around.

[murkeywaters]

That really, really makes me cringe.

It’s not just uber cringe but also arrogant, we could be on a long slippery slope to recession where the goods they sell are not important to 99% of the country, that leaves a very small percentage that will have funds to create a relationship with..

[Mj2k]

It’s not just uber cringe but also arrogant, we could be on a long slippery slope to recession where the goods they sell are not important to 99% of the country, that leaves a very small percentage that will have funds to create a relationship with..

Indeed, alas I am fed up with the merry dance. Been offered 2 explorers recently, but nothing that I really want and am now a little bored after seeing all the prices increase again.

My ‘watch bonus’ from work went into my pension to avoid the tax - I am that fed up.

Just come back from NYC and the Rolex part of WOS in Hudson Yard was shocking. Every window / display area labelled as display only…but only about 3 watches for display in the entire area. Looked like it had shut down.

[murkeywaters]

Just come back from NYC and the Rolex part of WOS in Hudson Yard was shocking. Every window / display area labelled as display only…but only about 3 watches for display in the entire area. Looked like it had shut down.

Its got to the point where the big gold Rolex sign in the window is enough to pull people inside, don't need their product in the window anymore!

Fair play to Rolex, they certainly know the strength of branding..

[funkstar]

Its got to the point where the big gold Rolex sign in the window is enough to pull people inside, don't need their product in the window anymore!

Fair play to Rolex, they certainly know the strength of branding..

I think Rolex are well aware they're struggling with production; pulling people in to a store is useless if they don't / can't buy your product.

Covid and factory closures have left them a long way behind the supply curve. Rolex know they look stupid with empty display windows and have openly said it's something they're trying to address.

Equally, I think some other brands should be worried for their lack of sales. Consumers aren't moving to these other brands, they're simply not buying. Right now dealers are full of Speedmasters of every type and spec - and they're not selling. But you can be sure the Omega factory is still pumping them out.

[M1011]

I think Rolex are well aware they're struggling with production; pulling people in to a store is useless if they don't / can't buy your product.

Covid and factory closures have left them a long way behind the supply curve. Rolex know they look stupid with empty display windows and have openly said it's something they're trying to address.

Equally, I think some other brands should be worried for their lack of sales. Consumers aren't moving to these other brands, they're simply not buying. Right now dealers are full of Speedmasters of every type and spec - and they're not selling. But you can be sure the Omega factory is still pumping them out.

Does this mean I can get an affordable Speedmaster somewhere soon? I've always wanted to try one

[markrlondon]

From Reddit: "My wife walked in on a Yachmaster blue face at an AD and called me to ask if I wanted it. I said hell yeah so she picked it up for me. I asked some friends about it and they told me it’s considered flashy. I don’t care though because it’s my first one and it’s amazing!"
https://www.reddit.com/r/rolex/comme...ue_face_at_an/

Doesn't way where. USA presumably, but anywhere in the world is something of an improvement.

[David_D]

From Reddit: "My wife walked in on a Yachmaster blue face at an AD and called me to ask if I wanted it. I said hell yeah so she picked it up for me. I asked some friends about it and they told me it’s considered flashy. I don’t care though because it’s my first one and it’s amazing!"
https://www.reddit.com/r/rolex/comme...ue_face_at_an/

Doesn't way where. USA presumably, but anywhere in the world is something of an improvement.

Seem to be a lot of people claiming to have got Rolex watches with minimal wait and little history!

Someone bought a “Tiffany” blue 36mm OP with no history and only 14 month wait. And someone bought an SD43 out of the dealer’s window, allegedly!!

EDIT: There’s pages of it! Either a lot of people lying or explains why no UK supply!

[stix]

We have been led to believe that ADs had no stock to sell as they had sold it all. I.e. They were still getting the same amount of stock in from Rolex but were just selling it before it hit the windows.

Is this AD saying that they are really getting less stock in from Rolex than previously? If so, it seems possible that they are being shut out by Rolex.



Hasn't that always been the case with Rolex? I.e. They send what they want you to have.



I guess the proof will be in the pudding. If they really do terminate their Rolex dealership then you'll know they were telling the truth about restricted supply. If they are still a Rolex AD in, say, six months then it was just marketing.

I thought I would revisit this post from 6 months ago with an update and say the shop appears to no longer be a Rolex AD so, they were telling the truth. Their website now only lists Grand Seiko, Ball, Oris, Montblanc and Seiko. It looks like Tudor went with Rolex. Shame but understandable perhaps.

[markrlondon]

I thought I would revisit this post from 6 months ago with an update and say the shop appears to no longer be a Rolex AD so, they were telling the truth. Their website now only lists Grand Seiko, Ball, Oris, Montblanc and Seiko. It looks like Tudor went with Rolex. Shame but understandable perhaps.

Thanks for the update. I'd been wondering what the outcome would be.

So it would seem that they did terminate their Rolex dealership themselves (or perhaps jumped before they were pushed anyway). Good luck to them with their new/remaining brands.

I get the impression that Grand Seiko is becoming something of a post-Rolex staple.

I've never run a jeweller's shop but I would have thought that Omega as well as something more quirky (Nomos? Pequinet? Maurice Lacroix?) would be beneficial in their line up, if they could get it. I'm just thinking about what would attract me as a WIS into the store. ;-)

[prexelor]

Reading Goldsmiths...three GMTs, DSSD, bi-Colour SD, sub no-date and Sub date - all "Exhibition Only" Heard the salesperson taking on the phone...."you have to come in and create a relationship with us to be considered for a GMT....."

That really, really makes me cringe.

It’s worse than that. From my experience with one AD, after you have cemented the relationship you need to keep in touch and pop in regularly to show you still have the watch.

[hansblix2001]

Whatever they’re doing it works from an interest perspective though, there are almost endless discussions and topics on this subject or similar.

[markrlondon]

It’s worse than that. From my experience with one AD, after you have cemented the relationship you need to keep in touch and pop in regularly to show you still have the watch.

Absolutely barmy. :-(

[welshmatt]

From Reddit: "My wife walked in on a Yachmaster blue face at an AD and called me to ask if I wanted it. I said hell yeah so she picked it up for me. I asked some friends about it and they told me it’s considered flashy. I don’t care though because it’s my first one and it’s amazing!"
https://www.reddit.com/r/rolex/comme...ue_face_at_an/

Doesn't way where. USA presumably, but anywhere in the world is something of an improvement.

I saw a 37mm YM available to buy in a Spanish AD last year October, so some do make it to the window!

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[stix]

Thanks for the update. I'd been wondering what the outcome would be.

So it would seem that they did terminate their Rolex dealership themselves (or perhaps jumped before they were pushed anyway). Good luck to them with their new/remaining brands.

I get the impression that Grand Seiko is becoming something of a post-Rolex staple.

I've never run a jeweller's shop but I would have thought that Omega as well as something more quirky (Nomos? Pequinet? Maurice Lacroix?) would be beneficial in their line up, if they could get it. I'm just thinking about what would attract me as a WIS into the store. ;-)

As far as I am aware, they have had Omega and Breitling previously but no longer, not sure why. I think IWC would work well for them and I agree with maybe something like Nomos as well or even Sinn would be very cool, especially at their price point.

[markrlondon]

I think IWC would work well for them and I agree with maybe something like Nomos as well or even Sinn would be very cool, especially at their price point.

Good ideas.

[ddm27]

Seem to be a lot of people claiming to have got Rolex watches with minimal wait and little history!

Someone bought a “Tiffany� blue 36mm OP with no history and only 14 month wait. And someone bought an SD43 out of the dealer’s window, allegedly!!

EDIT: There’s pages of it! Either a lot of people lying or explains why no UK supply!

To be fair I bought a palm dial DJ36 on a walk-in last year; it was sitting in the case.


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[David_D]

To be fair I bought a palm dial DJ36 on a walk-in last year; it was sitting in the case. Although our island was closed to tourists at the time, so that helped!

Pretty sure I’ve not seen any SS models in windows for 3 years. And that includes ladies DJs!!

[ddm27]

Pretty sure I’ve not seen any SS models in windows for 3 years. And that includes ladies DJs!!

Crikey. The state of things…

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[chrisparker]

A full collection available at the jewellers in the hotel I’m staying at in Turkey. Cheap too.

[Stonewood]

A full collection available at the jewellers in the hotel I’m staying at in Turkey. Cheap too.

Surely not?


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[Litcan91]

Surely not?


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Let's just put it this way, they're not the kind that you'd send off to Rolex for a service

[chrisparker]

Let's just put it this way, they're not the kind that you'd send off to Rolex for a service

Yep, I was quite surprised to see them blatantly on display in a 5* hotel. There are plenty of people in the pools wearing genuine ones.

[catch21]

Yep, I was quite surprised to see them blatantly on display in a 5* hotel. There are plenty of people in the pools wearing genuine ones.

On many levels I am lost for words.

[RJM25R]

DMR Manchester has a huge amount of “exhibition only” units to try on and regiseter your interest.


All subs,

GMT BLNR/BLRO

SKYDWELLER

YACHTMASTER S/s and gold

Airking

Milgauss

OP all sizes

Various DJ

DSSD

Sdweller 43

Explorer and exp 2


At the very least you can have a look and a play

[Slamdoor]

WoS today Brent Cross - 4 windows of watches, all exhibition only. Felt like asking if they sell watches or just look at them. If you’re after a Rolex - good luck.

[boring_sandwich]

WoS today Brent Cross - 4 windows of watches, all exhibition only. Felt like asking if they sell watches or just look at them. If you’re after a Rolex - good luck.

Plenty for sale they are just not in the windows!

[rico]

Loads of exhibition only watches at Mappin & Webb in Bluewater.

[David_D]

DMR Manchester has a huge amount of “exhibition only” units to try on and regiseter your interest.

At the very least you can have a look and a play

“Very least” sums it up! I reckon there’s little point in even looking. If you do ever get to the top of “the list”, it’ll probably be the next model/iteration - or the one after that.

[Nairn1980]

WoS today Brent Cross - 4 windows of watches, all exhibition only. Felt like asking if they sell watches or just look at them. If you’re after a Rolex - good luck.

Their allocations will go to preferred clients.

[Snowdon]

Their allocations will go to preferred clients.

To their mates or those who spend enough where the commission exceeds the gain from selling to their mates

[Ari]

It’s worse than that. From my experience with one AD, after you have cemented the relationship you need to keep in touch and pop in regularly to show you still have the watch.

Or what!?

Are they going to come round to your house and take it back?

[manganr]

Worse then that... they'll cross your name off the list!

[Raffe]

Best watch brand in the world.

[boring_sandwich]

It won’t be long now until those exhibition models are offered for sale the way the market is tanking.

[ryanb741]

I'm on a list for a white Daytona and was on the list for a Milgauss. 3 days ago I popped into the AD and asked to change the Milgauss list for a ND Sub. I was quoted a year or more (background is having spend of £42k in the last 12 months at the AD and its various chains - WOS group).

They called yesterday and offered the Sub however as I'd just bought a Zenith and pre ordered a new Grand Seiko my funds are depleted so I turned it down and asked for one in 6 months or so

[boring_sandwich]

I'm on a list for a white Daytona and was on the list for a Milgauss. 3 days ago I popped into the AD and asked to change the Milgauss list for a ND Sub. I was quoted a year or more (background is having spend of £42k in the last 12 months at the AD and its various chains - WOS group).

They called yesterday and offered the Sub however as I'd just bought a Zenith and pre ordered a new Grand Seiko my funds are depleted so I turned it down and asked for one in 6 months or so

There are certainly coming through from the AD’s with like to no effort. I understand from the SA many people who have been on lists are now passing.

I have received 2 watches over the last week both from an AD with no prior spend history.

[Murdoc]

There are certainly coming through from the AD’s with like to no effort. I understand from the SA many people who have been on lists are now passing.

I have received 2 watches over the last week both from an AD with no prior spend history.

Were they Rolex? I’ve been on a list for nearly two years for a CHNR with an AD I’ve bought several watches from. If it’s possible to actually buy watches from ADs with no history I’ll give a different AD a try!