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    The used Hulk that I mentioned previously was still in Jopsons' (Carlisle) window yesterday - £6495.

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    Plenty of nice Rolex in WoS Cardiff.

    2 Daytona and one GMT all close to a £30k asking price. Couple of ND's as well. Window totally stuffed with Datejusts of all types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldfort View Post
    Plenty of nice Rolex in WoS Cardiff.

    2 Daytona and one GMT all close to a £30k asking price. Couple of ND's as well. Window totally stuffed with Datejusts of all types.
    Guys as mentioned previously, lets stick to the rare ones like the BLNR, Daytona (impossible anyway), Deep Sea Blue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix View Post
    Guys as mentioned previously, lets stick to the rare ones like the BLNR, Daytona (impossible anyway), Deep Sea Blue.
    Why would the BLNR be classed as rare? Plenty about. The ceramic pepsi bezel on the other hand is not something you see every day.

    By Daytona you clearly mean the "cheap" SS model? Again plenty of Daytona's about, nothing rare about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldfort View Post
    Why would the BLNR be classed as rare? Plenty about. The ceramic pepsi bezel on the other hand is not something you see every day.

    By Daytona you clearly mean the "cheap" SS model? Again plenty of Daytona's about, nothing rare about them.
    LOL ok please tell us which AD has these SS Daytonas and BLNR plenty. Im sure EVERYONE will appreciate.

    Btw in case you havnt noticed, we are talking about ADs. We all know we can pay DOUBLE retail for a daytona. Thats not the point.

    Ceramic Pepsi is available EVERYWHERE in ADs. Gold DAYTONAS are available EVERYWHERE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix View Post
    LOL ok please tell us which AD has these SS Daytonas and BLNR plenty. Im sure EVERYONE will appreciate.

    Btw in case you havnt noticed, we are talking about ADs. We all know we can pay DOUBLE retail for a daytona. Thats not the point.

    Ceramic Pepsi is available EVERYWHERE in ADs. Gold DAYTONAS are available EVERYWHERE.
    So do tell then what is rare about a Daytona? I can walk into an AD, slap down around £30k and walk out with a Daytona. That's not "rare". I'll grant you there are not many SS ones about because Rolex know they can sell all the gold ones they can pump out. They are not hording the SS ones up, they are just not making them. People who can "only" afford a SS Daytona are not the target market.

    BTW I've been offered (not asked for) a BLNR twice in the last 12 months while browsing in WoS who are an AD. However in fairness the watch was not "in the window" on either occasion.

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    Seriously , this thread is meant to help people and your arguing over definition of what is rare


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    Quote Originally Posted by andybaird22 View Post
    Seriously , this thread is meant to help people and your arguing over definition of what is rare


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    Correct.

    Suggest you reference the thread title, but if it helps I'll post a new thread next time I go out for a browse around town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldfort View Post
    So do tell then what is rare about a Daytona? I can walk into an AD, slap down around £30k and walk out with a Daytona. That's not "rare". I'll grant you there are not many SS ones about because Rolex know they can sell all the gold ones they can pump out. They are not hording the SS ones up, they are just not making them. People who can "only" afford a SS Daytona are not the target market.

    BTW I've been offered (not asked for) a BLNR twice in the last 12 months while browsing in WoS who are an AD. However in fairness the watch was not "in the window" on either occasion.
    SERSIOUSLY. As i said. If I can walk into an AD and purchase a SS Daytona, please tell me where. GOLD DAYTONAS as you mention are NOT RARE. I can walk into an AD and buy 10 daytonas. Jesus.

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    It's Xmas let's have a cuddle and make up


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    Presumably the moment that a watch is available and in a window then that's the moment that it's insufficiently worthy of being reported in this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldfort View Post
    So do tell then what is rare about a Daytona? I can walk into an AD, slap down around £30k and walk out with a Daytona. That's not "rare". I'll grant you there are not many SS ones about because Rolex know they can sell all the gold ones they can pump out. They are not hording the SS ones up, they are just not making them. People who can "only" afford a SS Daytona are not the target market.

    BTW I've been offered (not asked for) a BLNR twice in the last 12 months while browsing in WoS who are an AD. However in fairness the watch was not "in the window" on either occasion.
    Have you not been keeping up with the Daytona threads, most ADs have closed their waiting lists for the new SS Daytona and those that will put you on are quoting a 7 to 10 years wait. It is unlikely that anyone will see a SS Daytona in an ADs window at RRP.

    As stated, there are plenty of TT models and all gold and even platinum - but in the crazy world of Daytona cheap and nasty SS for poor people is more desirable than the precious metal varieties.

    Do report here if you see one as someone on here will ring that AD within 5 mins and put a deposit down over the phone without even seeing it.

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    I agree with what has been mentioned earlier in the thread-
    I.e.: if you see in an AD window at list price-

    a D-Blu Deepsea
    a Stainless steel Daytona
    a black and blue GMT

    Then it's worth posting........any other models are now fairly easy to get with a bit of nous.

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    Sub and 2 DSSD's in the window of the new Chisolm Hunter on Princes St Edinburgh a couple of hours ago...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 33JS View Post
    Sub and 2 DSSD's in the window of the new Chisolm Hunter on Princes St Edinburgh a couple of hours ago...
    Were they secondhand and massively over-priced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    Were they secondhand and massively over-priced?
    Appeared new and £7,500...though I didn't specifically ask. Their stock was everything from Vacheron to Blancpain and they have a champagne bar upstairs. Very nice indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 33JS View Post
    Appeared new and £7,500...though I didn't specifically ask. Their stock was everything from Vacheron to Blancpain and they have a champagne bar upstairs. Very nice indeed.
    They don't appear to be main agents and they have one on the website for £7,500.....which is a 2011 example, with no mention of any Rolex warranty / documents.

    I'll stick with my original thoughts; the above would be in line with the stock they have tried to sell elsewhere in the country. Similar specification watches are available from more specialist sellers for about £1,000 less.

    If the shop is nice and they have a lovely champagne bar then that's delightful. Just ask yourself who'll be paying for that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldfort View Post
    The ceramic pepsi bezel on the other hand is not something you see every day.

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    every AD in Leicester has a Ceramic pepsi for sale, and every where in London had them last Friday.
    I would say every shop has one of these in the window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrdemon View Post
    every AD in Leicester has a Ceramic pepsi for sale, and every where in London had them last Friday.
    I would say every shop struggles to sell £30k watches.

    ^imho

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJM25R View Post
    ^imho
    What would you say a good target price would be for the white gold GMT?

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    Apparently the new day-dates are a bit of a pig to get hold of as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauting View Post
    What would you say a good target price would be for the white gold GMT?
    My opinion on this is irrelevant. If it was made of tinfoil, the dust from mars or rhino's tusk it's still a £30k watch and the demand for that kind of thing is smaller!

    I can afford £5k on a watch (as can a lot of posters on the forum judging by how many of us have them) but I can't afford £30k (ditto)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton View Post
    They don't appear to be main agents and they have one on the website for £7,500.....which is a 2011 example, with no mention of any Rolex warranty / documents.

    I'll stick with my original thoughts; the above would be in line with the stock they have tried to sell elsewhere in the country. Similar specification watches are available from more specialist sellers for about £1,000 less.

    If the shop is nice and they have a lovely champagne bar then that's delightful. Just ask yourself who'll be paying for that!

    Haywood
    Could well be the website one, though there were two. As for the champagne bar, I'd rather choose where to go, personally speaking. Let's see how they work out, my personal fav was the VC Overseas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauting View Post
    What would you say a good target price would be for the white gold GMT?
    From an outside of London AD push for 15% off, will be tough but maybe if you play a few off against each other.

    I think listing SS subs and GMTs here is still useful as they are not so easy to find still and saves people time. GMTC was in Brent Cross FH today, altho there were people trying to get at it while I was trying it on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aksing View Post
    From an outside of London AD push for 15% off, will be tough but maybe if you play a few off against each other.

    I think listing SS subs and GMTs here is still useful as they are not so easy to find still and saves people time. GMTC was in Brent Cross FH today, altho there were people trying to get at it while I was trying it on...
    Dealers outside of London work on the same margin on a watch as a dealer in London so there is no land of milk and honey where dealers give massive discounts outside London I'm afraid.
    You're as likely to have a dealer in London wanting the business and giving a discount as you are in Edinburgh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    Dealers outside of London work on the same margin on a watch as a dealer in London so there is no land of milk and honey where dealers give massive discounts outside London I'm afraid.
    You're as likely to have a dealer in London wanting the business and giving a discount as you are in Edinburgh.
    15% on a PM piece is not unrealistic.

    Dealers in London might have the same margin, but they have other much higher costs to contend with too, when compared to ADs outside of London, or even outside of any larger city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haberdashery View Post
    15% on a PM piece is not unrealistic.

    Dealers in London might have the same margin, but they have other much higher costs to contend with too, when compared to ADs outside of London, or even outside of any larger city.
    Dealers in London have larger volume targets to meet too so if they need to shift some watches a discount is more likely.
    My last car was bought from a London dealer as it was the highest discount so it doesn't necessarily follow that outside London is necessarily the best deals
    At the end of the day a desirable model they know they can shift be it London or anywhere else and all dealers will be tight on discounts.
    Models that don't "fly out the door" will obviously be more amenable to reductions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    Dealers in London have larger volume targets to meet too so if they need to shift some watches a discount is more likely.
    My last car was bought from a London dealer as it was the highest discount so it doesn't necessarily follow that outside London is necessarily the best deals
    At the end of the day a desirable model they know they can shift be it London or anywhere else and all dealers will be tight on discounts.
    Models that don't "fly out the door" will obviously be more amenable to reductions.
    They will all discount a WG model, which is the hardest metal to shift, but there will be far more demand from London and other major cities, so outside of these you have a much better chance of a bigger discount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aksing View Post
    They will all discount a WG model, which is the hardest metal to shift, but there will be far more demand from London and other major cities, so outside of these you have a much better chance of a bigger discount.
    But by that logic all the out of town ADs would be stowed out with people queuing up for discounts they can't achieve in the big smoke.
    If there is evidence of out of town ADs offering larger discounts I will stand corrected of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hood View Post
    But by that logic all the out of town ADs would be stowed out with people queuing up for discounts they can't achieve in the big smoke.
    If there is evidence of out of town ADs offering larger discounts I will stand corrected of course.
    No, there isn't a queue of people wanting WG models anywhere so prices are negotiable, and in the larger towns they have a larger population plus tourists and regular business travellers who will buy but will not bother searching out smaller town ADs. The vast majority of people spending £25K on a watch are not on forums and looking for deals, they want to pay full retail or close to it for a Veblen Good and then brag about it, that is the whole point of a Rolex for most people. Most do not even ask for a discount or have the balls to.
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    Aberdeen Rolex AD this afternoon

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    Quote Originally Posted by aksing View Post
    No, there isn't a queue of people wanting WG models anywhere so prices are negotiable, and in the larger towns they have a larger population plus tourists and regular business travellers who will buy but will not bother searching out smaller town ADs. The vast majority of people spending £25K on a watch are not on forums and looking for deals, they want to pay full retail or close to it for a Veblen Good and then brag about it, that is the whole point of a Rolex for most people. Most do not even ask for a discount or have the balls to.
    ...... would be how I see it also.

    Dealers in London with astronomical rent and rates - rely more on high prices than high volume for their business model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewcregan View Post




    Aberdeen Rolex AD this afternoon
    Thanks, this is what the replies on this read should look like :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewcregan View Post
    Aberdeen Rolex AD this afternoon
    It's a Rolex AD and they're selling the SD4K at £8900?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vcarter View Post
    It's a Rolex AD and they're selling the SD4K at £8900?
    Isn't it a Deep Sea at the regular MRSP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Isn't it a Deep Sea at the regular MRSP?

    yup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    Isn't it a Deep Sea at the regular MRSP?
    Oh yes, my bad...

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    Not photos from an AD, but a benchmark of used sports watch prices in central London.


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    Sorry. I am a bit confused. Why is an AD selling the 2017 SD at that price. !!!! Should it not be at Rolex list price ? That figure is not U.K. list price is it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dejay View Post
    Sorry. I am a bit confused. Why is an AD selling the 2017 SD at that price. !!!! Should it not be at Rolex list price ? That figure is not U.K. list price is it?


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    See the quote from Funkstar above: "Not from an AD"

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkstar View Post
    Not photos from an AD, but a benchmark of used sports watch prices in central London.

    Is that Carrs? Super rip off dealers. They told me because they are in the city, they are factoring in the bankers coming in with offers haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewcregan View Post



    Aberdeen Rolex AD this afternoon


    They were probably all being held in the back for the AFC players to spend their bonuses for winning the Scottish Cup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix View Post
    Is that Carrs? Super rip off dealers. They told me because they are in the city, they are factoring in the bankers coming in with offers haha
    Yes it is Carrs. To be fair I think their prices are reflective of where the grey market is at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkstar View Post
    Yes it is Carrs. To be fair I think their prices are reflective of where the grey market is at.
    Haha disagree. LV sub for £7K + ? Never. You can get it retail if you wait or search abit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tobywatches View Post
    See the quote from Funkstar above: "Not from an AD"
    Aha. Sorry. Missed that. Many thx.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix View Post
    Haha disagree. LV sub for £7K + ? Never. You can get it retail if you wait or search abit.
    There is a 2017 one in the window of a jewellers in Winchester for £7.8k - a bit crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwg663 View Post
    They were probably all being held in the back for the AFC players to spend their bonuses for winning the Scottish Cup.
    No chance of them winning it or getting payed enough to buy one unfortunately!

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    Bump. Sightings of SS Subs, BLNR, Daytonas, Skydwellers and SeaDwellers welcome.

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    Quite a decent selection in Zurich airport on Wednesday.



    Was quite taken with this, bit I think I will hold out for the blue dial.




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    I tried that model on this week. Too much gold for my tastes.

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